His comments about me were also false. If he's going to prove a case, the worst thing to do will be to lie.Battle Mage wrote:Regarding Gieff, i dont really care if his comments about Camn's views aren't accurate. Neither of them are being lynched today, and the point isnt one that really poses relevance to eithers affiliation anyway. Camn DOES need to join the Alex wagon.
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Ohh... and GIEFF. My thoughts about not wanting to lynch Camn right now don't only rely on the weird circle of defense around her... they're also influenced by the facts that many of the scummy things she does may be her playstyle... That's what I needed to decide...
She was town in mini 799 (theme) and I totally thought I had her pegged as scum... luckyly for me... she died n1 and that prevented me from going after her.I'm back...-
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752 BM: Didn't you say camn was town?
758: BM protecting mastin... amazing how things flip around here...
BM is totally defending mastin right now... second clue i get that he probably knows his allignment... Remember when he flipped on me? He KNEW mastin was town.
Battle Mage is trying to convince us that Mastin will be Night Killed.
WHY? He won't be night killed because his lynch will be pushed again the following day.
more bullshitbm wrote:"We have 2 weeks before even need to think about lynching. If we give up that time now, i'll be furious. Scum hate long days. "I'm back...-
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do you know something I don't?VP wrote:Scum are clearly trying to make this day utterly useless and Mastin's lynch will tell us information about his most ardent defenders.
againVP wrote:We have seen you and alex defending him for god knows what reasons, so if he flips scum we know exactly who to string up tomorrow.
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do you notice a pattern...? mastin town will make me look bad. Mastin scum makes me look bad too... I'm not gonna let people play it like that AFTER we see the flip.benmage wrote:Fair enough. But for the sake of the game, do you realistically believe you can persuade a majority onto a different player? Or even Alex for this case...I doubt it, and if mastin does flip town. Alex's over excessive defense is certainly something to note.I'm back...-
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So you're saying it is in your best interest to see Mastin live. Well, I think it is in the towns best interest to see him lynched. Especially with his lurkyness. I hate lurkers, they've lost games for me.alexhans wrote:
do you notice a pattern...? mastin town will make me look bad. Mastin scum makes me look bad too... I'm not gonna let people play it like that AFTER we see the flip.benmage wrote:Fair enough. But for the sake of the game, do you realistically believe you can persuade a majority onto a different player? Or even Alex for this case...I doubt it, and if mastin does flip town. Alex's over excessive defense is certainly something to note.-
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885: regardless of mastin's flip... people are gonna say im scummy so... what would the point be? and i was speaking specifically about VP and Kmd.
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People have gone from calling me "scummy for his defense" to calling me "SCUMMY AS HELL" and stuff like that. It seems like people are being pressured into calling me scum (Others may be annoyed and unable to think).
I can't grasp how everything has changed so much. I don't even know what's the case besides my NutSoCaps... There's really nothing other than that and conviniently laid theories that assume a certain suspect is scum with me. But there's nothing. How the fuck can I be scummy as hell? MY wallposts? My playstyle? How am I so scummy? CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN IT TO ME?I'm back...-
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I agree. At this point. That mastin is one of the best lynches unless we are sure we'll get scum. He is not posting and will keep on being a distraction for everybody. Besides. It might give us some harder foundations to scumhunt once he flips.Benmage wrote: So you're saying it is in your best interest to see Mastin live. Well, I think it is in the towns best interest to see him lynched. Especially with his lurkyness. I hate lurkers, they've lost games for me.
However... Battle Mage has been scummy beyond anything else...
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I know. Mad people have dropped scum-tells. I'm sure I'm not excluded. I'm not saying to ignore. Definitely, please note them. But at this point being past 40 pages, we should start to concentrate on the few we think could actually be lynched today. If you, like Gieff, think you can persuade 8 onto KmD or BM...than go nuts.alexhans wrote: However... Battle Mage has been scummy beyond anything else...
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I'd be fine with it, but the day needs to end and Mastin actually has votes.Benmage wrote:@Spryex, jammer, zach, sensfan, battle mage, and kmd
How do you guys feel about lynching Gieff today? You've all previously voted him.
He might be bussing. Not sure. But on Day 1 with no flips, I lynch for scumminess over connections.alexhans wrote:@KMD: I fail to see why you would agree with your top suspect to lynch the other suspect... Do you think GIEFF is bussing me?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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I think camn is scum.
I think you are scum, too, alex, but so does half the town, and in the interest of ending this day, I am compromising and going after a more realistic target.
What I am doing is different than what BM did. I tried and tried and tried to convince people camn is scum, and trying anymore would just be wasting the town's time and my energy.
I spent the (only) 15 minutes skimming through your iso, alex. You don't buddy anybody else close to the same amount you buddy camn.
I found an example on Sens early on:
But then Sens called you scummy, and you started thinking he was scummy, and after this ALL of your responses to him were aggressive, and none were coaching. You can claim to have a "coaching" meta. Whatever. You would NOT apply it to people you think are scum (as you didn't to either BM or Sens), yet camn is on your scumlist, and you coached her non-stop.alexhans wrote:
Ok... But one doesnt make a lynch. If you state some good reasons you will be able to convince people (specially me, I wont go for unreasoned votes)SensFan wrote:
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alexhans wrote:Ohh... and GIEFF. My thoughts about not wanting to lynch Camn right now don't only rely on the weird circle of defense around her... they're also influenced by the facts that many of the scummy things she does may be her playstyle... That's what I needed to decide...
She was town in mini 799 (theme) and I totally thought I had her pegged as scum... luckyly for me... she died n1 and that prevented me from going after her.
If you are trying to decide if her anti-town playstyle is scummy or not, why, oh WHY would you coach her to CHANGE her anti-town playstyle?
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Way to move those goalposts.GIEFF wrote:It just seems inconsistent be against the lynch of somebody in your top 3 scummiest players. So I was wondering how much of that was because I am the one pushing his wagon.
With a statement like this it would be hard to believe that you once said that I once supported a lynch of Alexhans today that I suddenly don't now.
Now it's strange that I support lynching my top suspect over my 2nd or my 3rd who have more votes. Very sly there man.
My position has been quite clear all day. I suspect Alex, but I don't suspect him enough to vote for him, nor enough to support lynching him. Stop thinking that your case should magically change everything.
I don't need to dignify this with a response. Reading me in iso should give you a pretty clear idea about my thoughts on Jammer.Battle Mage wrote:
what do YOU think of Jammer? In 50 words or more please.Zachrulez wrote:I'm opposed to lynching Alexhans today yes.
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Notice how BM links me to Alex so that Gieff doesn't have to actually say it. Nice.Battle Mage wrote:
You've just drawn level in the contest to be Alex's scumbuddy. Congrats.Zachrulez wrote:So you were fine enough with a Mastin lynch to push him to lynch -1, but suddenly now after Alex posts, WHO HAS LOOKED SUSPICIOUS THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PRETTY MUCH MOST OF THE DAY ANYWAY, you're suddenly less ok with a Mastin lynch.
What the hell is the deal with that?
None of this is suddenly very new. All this evidence against Alex has been there for quite some time now.
What's changed since say... the start of today up to now? The fact that the town is becoming more open to the idea of lynching Mastin?
Every time the possibility of lynching Mastin becomes real, you look for another suspect. It's getting ridiculous.
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Well that's you, me, zach and camn. Plus he's jammer's #2 guy. So that is essentially 5.Kmd4390 wrote:
I'd be fine with it, but the day needs to end and Mastin actually has votes.Benmage wrote:@Spryex, jammer, zach, sensfan, battle mage, and kmd
How do you guys feel about lynching Gieff today? You've all previously voted him.
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why do you think I would play like you?GIEFF wrote:If you are trying to decide if her anti-town playstyle is scummy or not, why, oh WHY would you coach her to CHANGE her anti-town playstyle?
If Zwets is anti town I won't lynch him for being anti town... I'll try to make him play pro-town... It's much harder to try to read through the anti-town rabble.I'm back...-
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I voted Spyrex becouse his vote on Camn was completely misplaced and I wanted to see his response.VP Baltar wrote:@jammer-if someone is topping your scumlist, why are you voting someone who is not even on it? That makes no sense. Why do you have to wait for mastin to say something before you vote him, especially when it is likely he will be commenting about page 5 when he comes back?
And I am not voting right now to lay down the last bricks for a Mastin lynch, becouse I like to let Cephrir and bcc weight in, and possibly Mastin if he manages to find the thread when not prodded.
@Alex, the "as hell" was misplaced. But yes, I find you scummy. Might have to do with your playing style. I'll do some meta-read when I've got the time, and lay down why you're scummy.
But still, I can understand your NutsOcaps, but you don't like lurkers at all, amirite?
Why are you every time so fighting against a Mastin lynch?
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You need to read my posts clearly.GIEFF wrote:I think Zach is townie, and NOT alex's buddy.
Zach, I thought you were AGAINST an alex lynch, i.e. would actively try to disrupt it as Benmage and camn are doing. But are you saying that you are not against it, just less for it than a me- or Mastin-lynch?
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Unvote: Vote: Gieff
Shoving a sub par Alexhans case down our throats in the face of a perfectly viable Mastin lynch is enough for me to do this. I'm tiring of it quickly.
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Nice misrep. Not currently voting alex =/= being hesitant about doing so. Quit trying to force people to vote the way you want through crappy accusations. It's scummy.GIEFF wrote:Baltar, you were actually voting for alex not too long ago, and switched to Mastin in the interest of ending the day. Why so much hesitation to vote alex now?
Seems that way.alex wrote:do you know something I don't?
Probably because you have a strong chance of being scum.alex wrote:you've been setting up my lynch for a long time now...
I summed it up in a single sentence. How quickly we forget.alex wrote:CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN IT TO ME?YOUR AD HERE
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