ekiM wrote:
Exalt, I think I don't really understand what you're saying. You've said you're not suggesting a policy lynch on Sho for his posting style, but that you
would
vote for him if he kept posting like that. I guess I don't understand the fundamental difference between pushing a policy lynch now, and suggesting you'll push one later. Both are suggesting that someone should be lynched for
the way that they post
rather than
because they are likely to be scum
. I think we should lynch people we think are likely to be scum, and I don't see how someone choosing to post in a certain way (in this and another game) makes it more likely that they are scum.
Do you think Sho posting this way makes him more likely to be scum, or are you saying this style of posting could be so anti-town it should be dealt with by a lynch even if it doesn't make him likely scum, or that it's impossible to determine the scumminess of someone posting that way? Or something else?
In answer to your question, I'm going to be ignoring his way of phrasing things and examining what he actually says and seeing if it is scummy. I don't see why his using "zetta" instead of "very" means that we can't attempt to deduce his alignment in the same way as we would with any other player.
In a lot of ways, my stance on Sho has changed when he changed the way he posts. Before I saw it as trolling and very anti-town, but at this point he has given some legit posts and scum hunted a little bit, so there is less gray area. Because of that, my stance on him is different than it was before. If I vote him now, it is because he is scummy and not because of his "play style" if you want to call it that.
As far as you saying we should not lynch him for the "way he posts", well I disagree, because if he slips up and makes scummy posts, then obviously you cannot call that a play style. If he makes mistakes and looks like scum and does scummy things in his posts, then why are you calling it his play style still? Get what I'm saying here?
You cannot call everything he does and says a play style, because you are just going to give him a free pass. At that point, I would call you scummy for supporting a possible partner because you refuse to scum hunt him based on saying it is his play style.
I think we can see the difference now in his posts that show when he is acting scummy and when he is acting town. Before, he seemed like a huge troll to me, and so there was far more gray area involved.
To everyone: I guess what I'm saying is that Sho clearly has changed his posting into being actually productive instead of just trying to follow a character. Yes, he still says "in character" things like zetta and uses a lot of useless math still, but he makes posts now that have a purpose, which I did not see before I pointed it out to everyone.
As far as my question where I asked what happens if we cannot tell the difference between him being scummy and him just using a play style, it was more a hypothetical than an actual analysis. DDD suggested I was giving up on actually scum hunting him and going for a policy lynch, but that was never the case. I wanted to ask the hypothetical anyway as a way of getting people to realize we cannot just view everything Sho says as a play style. If he is acting scummy, he is acting scummy.
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