Open 156 - Friends and Enemies - Game Over before 816

[Toro]

Honestly i havent been reading the whole thread.

Now

there

's your problem...

@Toro: mostly because you lack arguments. Seriously, DDD has got more on Raivann than you do on him.

And regardless of that, tunneling is always bad. Especially if there's more than one scumbag left.

I feel more then confident that my arguments are strong enough for us to go ahead and lynch DDD. What makes you say that DDD is town muzzz?

Vote Count #10

I had all these great ideas for flavor but then I forgot them. No joke.

itacv2 (3) - ekiM, ZazieR, Sho Minamimoto
Debonair Danny DiPietro (3) - Toro, itacv2, Raivann
Santos (1) - Kise
Raivann (1) - Debonair Danny DiPietro
Toro (1) - muzzz

[Alduskkel]

Note the sig.

Noted.

[ZazieR]

I feel more then confident that my arguments are strong enough for us to go ahead and lynch DDD. What makes you say that DDD is town muzzz?

Doesn''t mean that your arguments are better than those against other players.
And where did Muzz say that he thinks DDD is town?

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

I've got to say that Toro's case is the absolute worst that's ever been presented against me. It's so bad he's got to be town because as mindlessly as he's pushing it he'd experience way too much blowback as scum if he actually got his lynch. However, his confidence seems like a perfect place for scum to hide behind and while I believe Raivann is that scum, I'm willing to pressure itacv2 to see if it's him as well/instead.

Unvote

Vote: itacv2

[Raivann]

Feelings are caused by something in the posts of said player. Can you state what or at least which post(s)?
But you claimed. And my question was why you already claimed. Which is what you have avoided to answer. So please answer.

The OMGUS vote is noted. Not liking it one bit. Especially as you didn''t address his points, except for the meta point.
Can you also elaborate how the process of elimination regarding Toro went?

I didn't mean to claim. All I said was that I was townie.

Toro I was wrong about.He's all about lynching DDD

I am thinking scum is trying to setup icatv2 for mislynch. And I'm thinking scum might be lurking.

Do you support a DDD lynch? If so, why?

Yeah, like icactv2 says he may be 'big shot scum'.

[Toro]

and I'll pretend you're

i

.

Fixed it for you. Lololol.

@Frankie: you seem to have more theories than suspicions. Why would you want to go after someone who makes stuff complicated, instead of someone else? Say, someone scummy?

Here you go, ZazieR.

I've got to say that Toro's case is the absolute worst that's ever been presented against me. It's so bad he's got to be town because as mindlessly as he's pushing it he'd experience way too much blowback as scum if he actually got his lynch. However, his confidence seems like a perfect place for scum to hide behind and while I believe Raivann is that scum, I'm willing to pressure itacv2 to see if it's him as well/instead.

Unvote

Vote: itacv2

And you're telling me your meta idea is better?

Gimme a break DDD.

[Raivann]

lynches I now support:

DDD,Zazie,
muzzz- Seems to go with the flow a little too much trying to keep it low key and blend in.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

I've got to say that Toro's case is the absolute worst that's ever been presented against me. It's so bad he's got to be town because as mindlessly as he's pushing it he'd experience way too much blowback as scum if he actually got his lynch. However, his confidence seems like a perfect place for scum to hide behind and while I believe Raivann is that scum, I'm willing to pressure itacv2 to see if it's him as well/instead.

Unvote

Vote: itacv2

And you're telling me your meta idea is better?

Gimme a break DDD.

Your case consists of junk playstyle arguments, the ironic argument that I'm pushing a lynch without any arguments, oh yes, and the incredibly compelling argument of you gut. Yeah, I'm sticking with my claim that you're running the worst arguments against me in any game I've played.

[Raivann]

Big shot scum, haha!
Seriously I think there's alot of townie vs townie arguements going on and scum are loving it.
Where's Exalt?

[Toro]

I've got to say that Toro's case is the absolute worst that's ever been presented against me. It's so bad he's got to be town because as mindlessly as he's pushing it he'd experience way too much blowback as scum if he actually got his lynch. However, his confidence seems like a perfect place for scum to hide behind and while I believe Raivann is that scum, I'm willing to pressure itacv2 to see if it's him as well/instead.

Unvote

Vote: itacv2

And you're telling me your meta idea is better?

Gimme a break DDD.

Your case consists of junk playstyle arguments, the ironic argument that I'm pushing a lynch without any arguments, oh yes, and the incredibly compelling argument of you gut. Yeah, I'm sticking with my claim that you're running the worst arguments against me in any game I've played.

Actually my argument isn't ironic at all, I called you out on pushing a lynch without any arguments. I'm stupid, but I'm not

that

stupid.

[Sho Minamimoto]

Big shot scum, haha!
Seriously I think there's alot of townie vs townie arguements going on and scum are loving it.
Where's Exalt?

I wondered this myself...

[Raivann]

@Zazie- I get the feeling that your more interested in pinning people down than trying to help the town, It feels like the Spanish Inquisition.

[Raivann]

I mean I wasn't alive then, but one could imagine. I'm not a witch!

[muzzz]

I feel more then confident that my arguments are strong enough for us to go ahead and lynch DDD. What makes you say that DDD is town muzzz?

What arguments? And if you twist my words into "DDD is town" one more time, I'll break out the slapping trout.

Oh, you already did...

*slaps Toro around a bit with a wet trout*

@Raivann: saying I "go with the flow" and "blend in" after I start attacking your buddy Toro? As Zazie would say: noted.

[ekiM]

itacv2, why do you ignore post 201? Look:

I still think That DDD has a chance to be a big shot scum, lol, but he makes a point.

I think we might want to test the case.

Why? If Raivann is lynched and he is town we might be short of one people but a nontalkative one, since he is counterproductive is not a big deal

and might then watch the patterns of behavior , the bandwagoners and reactions to the lynch.

But u saying that I WANTED RAIVANN dead, that i cant permit, because

i never said i wanted him dead, nor i made a move against him

. I just explained my point of view in the current situation.

How do you explain this contradiction?

Your latest post is more wishy-washyness. I think you're inexperienced scum.

---

Raivann, you said that you were agreeing with the case Zazie made on itacv2 and would reread him. Have you reread him? What do you conclude?

Reading him in iso all his posts are about DDD & me. I thought that if he was scum he would have switched his vote to me, then I realized you called him out on his 'test the case' theory. Another reason for him not switching could be that DDD had more votes on him.

His posts do seem scummy, I'd be down for itacv2 lynch

unvote, Vote:itacv2

on second thought I'm with Toro, I wanna lynch DDD

unvote, Vote:Debonair Danny Dipietro

I am thinking scum is trying to setup icatv2 for mislynch. And I'm thinking scum might be lurking.

Do you support a DDD lynch? If so, why?

Yeah, like icactv2 says he may be 'big shot scum'.

How have you gone from thinking itacv2 was scummy to thinking he might be a mislynch?

You expressed agreement with the case on itacv2 and voted for him. However you soon unvoted and pushed a competing wagon. Now you're questioning the itacv2 wagon altogether. You're trying to have it both ways. Why is that?

[ekiM]

Kise hasn't made a real post in a week.

Still waiting on Exalt's case.

[Santos]

@ ZazieR, I'm not sure what you're asking for in a game I can provide you...do you mean a game where I've tunneled someone and they turned out to be _________ (fill in the blank)?

[ZazieR]

I''m asking for a game in which you were town in which you attacked a player who asked lots of questions.

[Santos]

I can't think of one.

I'll bite: what was the point of asking me for that?

[ZazieR]

Because in this game you didn''t question BSG about all her questions, while you were town.

[Santos]

I've only played one game with her.

I've played a few games with you. I just found it troubling that all your questions cannot be deciphered as a scum-tell or a town-tell. Its incredibly a null-tell, IMO because you always have questions out and play the same in every game I've played with you. So why are your 'notes' in any way important for you to note to us in the first place if you know what you're thinking about us already? Why not just post a scum list and go from there?

When you make these notes, do you put them in a Word document or something? I really don't understand how useful they are unless you do massive rereads, but then are unable to participate in other games. Are you just more focused here?

[ZazieR]

I''ll look over my scum games tomorrow, but I can think of two games already where I''m town in which I asked lots of questions.
As for why, ''ctrl + f'' is your best friend And I say noted a lot.

As for my scum list, I have already said my top 4 suspicions.

[Santos]

Heh, you showing me anything of your meta isn't going to help my opinion of you here. Until you strike gold in an accusation you stick by in finding a scum, then my Mafia instinct is telling me not to trust your null-tell questions, notes and 'ctrl + f's!!! :p

[ZazieR]

Feelings are caused by something in the posts of said player. Can you state what or at least which post(s)?
But you claimed. And my question was why you already claimed. Which is what you have avoided to answer. So please answer.

The OMGUS vote is noted. Not liking it one bit. Especially as you didn''t address his points, except for the meta point.
Can you also elaborate how the process of elimination regarding Toro went?

I didn't mean to claim. All I said was that I was townie.

Toro I was wrong about.He's all about lynching DDD

I am thinking scum is trying to setup icatv2 for mislynch. And I'm thinking scum might be lurking.

Still doesn''t say why you did claim. Still didn''t explain the thought process behind the process of elimination.
And if you think that scum is either lurking or setting up a mislynch on itacv2, then why did you vote DDD/ And why did you vote itacv2 then if you think it''s a mislynch?

[ZazieR]

and I'll pretend you're

i

.

Fixed it for you. Lololol.

@Frankie: you seem to have more theories than suspicions. Why would you want to go after someone who makes stuff complicated, instead of someone else? Say, someone scummy?

Here you go, ZazieR.

Muzzz responded. You have yet to address it.