Both of you made some good arguments. Although I mostly agree with you about not linking players, unless there are some serious arguments to do so.imkingdavid wrote:Cird, between myself and Adel, whose points make more sense/are more logical?
That's not what I meant exactly, if two people were to quickly jump a wagon they would be seen as suspicious, whether they are scum or not so they will be lynched and/or pressurized. If I wanted to go all WIFOM on you guys I would say that you and Adel can't both be scum because of your argueing and that's why you two must be scum trying to cover each other up. This would be so obvious though that you can't be scum, which means you're scum. Whih means you can't be scum, which means you must be scum...imkingdavid wrote:This can turn into WIFOM really really quickly. Because you would argue that scum would not be that stupid. And if scum actually did do that, they would argue the same thing. I'm just saying what's could happen--this is a newbie game.
I wonder why he replaced.Vel-Rahn Koon, replacer of players who ask for a replacement wrote:Adel has requested replacement site-wide.
Right, that's all that's really gone on, which is why I'm asking questions to try and get others involved.dramonic wrote:This is day 1, not much lead to work on and all that's been going on is you and Adel arguing over semantics and two viable playstyle.
There's not much to say. Both points of view are functionnal, both points of view have their flaws.
Also, I don't think the fact that I agree with your reason to vote Tfrench and follow suit invalidates my vote in any way.
That's what I had meant as far as WIFOM. It can go in a circle and never get anywhere.Cirdua wrote:Both of you made some good arguments. Although I mostly agree with you about not linking players, unless there are some serious arguments to do so.imkingdavid wrote:Cird, between myself and Adel, whose points make more sense/are more logical?
That's not what I meant exactly, if two people were to quickly jump a wagon they would be seen as suspicious, whether they are scum or not so they will be lynched and/or pressurized. If I wanted to go all WIFOM on you guys I would say that you and Adel can't both be scum because of your argueing and that's why you two must be scum trying to cover each other up. This would be so obvious though that you can't be scum, which means you're scum. Whih means you can't be scum, which means you must be scum...imkingdavid wrote:This can turn into WIFOM really really quickly. Because you would argue that scum would not be that stupid. And if scum actually did do that, they would argue the same thing. I'm just saying what's could happen--this is a newbie game.
Can you see how the circle would go on and on and we still wouldn't know whether you're scum or not. I'm not saying you and Abel are scum, I was just providing an example of WIFOM so everyone knows what it means (for those too lazy to go to the wiki and look it up)
While I was writing this I noticed something changedI wonder why he replaced.Vel-Rahn Koon, replacer of players who ask for a replacement wrote:Adel has requested replacement site-wide.
I think you're pretty much getting it, actually. Game is about ferreting out the smallest hints - at this point, the only things that differentiate us - and extrapolating from there, adding in any bits of new evidence as they occur. What those tells are - bringing someone near to a lynch on weak evidence, accusing too much, accusing too little, or whatever else - are really up to the individual.havingfitz wrote:As this is the first Mafia game I have ever been in there is a lot to try and figure out...like why voting for someone I think may be Mafia is reason to to cast suspicion on me. I voted on pancakes because in my inexperienced opinion he/she was suspicious. The fact I was putting pancakes 1 vote from lynching made me suspicious but the others who had voted for pancakes are not? What does casting the deciding vote do...confirm suspicions? Very confusing for a newbie.
And it is amazing (as in filled with disbelief) to me that people are trying to pair me with others as being scum...or deduce that I am scum on the basis of three or four posts. Is trying to build negative opinion towards someone despite very little supporting evidence a scum tell?
If the worst thing I have done (prior to what I would not be suprised to be informed are several scummy tells in this post) is to place a vote on someone I thought was a bit scummy...and be the 4 person to place the same vote...then I'm going to be on eggshells this entire game.
I'll keep my vote where it is for the time being but I am starting to think some of the more vocal participants may be a bit shady.
Is there any reason why you needed to make sure everyone knew he was a scumhunting master?Ok, first, I'm not Adel. Adel is a scumhunting master, logical bonanzical schmu, and in my opinion the best player on the site.
And then you unvoteddramonic wrote:unvote; vote: Adel
No. You are an IC, you should know better than to put someone at l-2 in a game where the newbies can EASILY quicklynch.
But you didn't give a reason for your unvote. Why did you feel you should unvote Adel?dramonic wrote:How does that relate to anything?Adel wrote:take a look at http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/search.p ... uthor=Adel to see how many posts I've made on this site since I placed him at lynch -2. No quicklynch was going to happen.dramonic wrote:unvote; vote: Adel
No. You are an IC, you should know better than to put someone at l-2 in a game where the newbies can EASILY quicklynch.
also,unvote
Too quick to be at l-1.
EBad saidUnvote Adel, Vote Pancakes
Either not reading through the thread, not bothering to give a counter opinion, or not caring about it.
FOS Cirdua.The rush to a new bandwagon up to L-1 implies scum are jumping on it, and that implies they don't like the existing bandwagon.
Also FOS on Fitz for putting the wagon 1 vote from a lynch.
Finally, if one of Cirdua or Pancakes are mafia, it's unlikely the other is; hard to see both those wagons being all townies.
Then you followed IKDunvote, vote:havingfitz
You seem to have been on all three of the major bandwagons of the game so far. You also stated as underlined above that rushing to bandwagons is a scum tell. If we are to believe you that rushing to bandwagons how do you explain your bandwagon jumping?Unvote Fitz, Vote tfrench.