Mafia 98 - Apennine Mafia (Game Over)


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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:42 am

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alexhans wrote:WTF? Gloating is a scumtell? I have the right to attack those who played poorly and allowed a town lurker to be quicklynched over a possbile scum lurker.
I guess i spoke too soon.
Unvote, Vote: Alex


I'm sick and tired of making excuses for his schoolboy errors and slips. If you KNEW Cephrir was town, tell me, why didnt you say anything? Yet another terrible scum-slip.


I want you dead, right this minute. Anyone who wants to try and restore a bit of fun back into the game, please join me.
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BCC hasn't posted since 19 July... however... he confirmed first night and then via kairyuu... what's up with that?
both times he confirmed was via Kairyuu. I'm not sure the Mod has actually heard from BCC himself, first or last.
Alex wrote: GIEFF... it would be cool if you could divide the votepatterns by days... for the next one...
DIY?

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Re-reading. Raising a SERIOUS eyebrow to the bolded.

Why would you need to make excuses for Alex?
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:50 am

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because i've felt he was town for ages.
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:54 am

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Battle Mage wrote:because i've felt he was town for ages.
Really? Where have you stated this feeling? As far as what I recall in your 200+ post contribution in the game, you've been spending most of your time calling him scum.
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:57 am

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*shrug* reread i guess.

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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:00 am

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Battle Mage wrote:I guess i spoke too soon.
Unvote, Vote: Alex


I'm sick and tired of making excuses for his schoolboy errors and slips. If you KNEW Cephrir was town, tell me, why didnt you say anything? Yet another terrible scum-slip.

I want you dead, right this minute. Anyone who wants to try and restore a bit of fun back into the game, please join me.
You posted this today. This is not the way someone posts about someone they think is town.
Battle Mage wrote:I doubt he will tbh. He's not been worried about being suspected before, and he's basically asking for it. I don't see him posting anything useful on our time, so a vote on him is effectively a vote for another lurker lynch.

I'm not much more confident with Alex, but at least with him dead, we might be able to make some progress with the game. Plus, his death will give us plenty of information i should think.
What information would alex-town give us?
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:13 am

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Vote Count:


blackcatcontract (3): Kmd4390, jammer, GIEFF
SensFan (1): Benmage
Battle Mage (1): alexhans
alexhans (1): Battle Mage
Debonair Danny DiPietro (1): SpyreX

Not Voting: SensFan, Debonair Danny DiPietro, blackcatcontract, Zachrulez

6 to lynch
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:15 am

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Vote: Alexhans


I think I should have listened to Gieff on day 1...
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:24 am

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No, if you listened to me, we would have lynched camn.


Is you voting alex related or un-related to your previous posts on this page, Zach?
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:27 am

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GIEFF wrote:No, if you listened to me, we would have lynched camn.


Is you voting alex related or un-related to your previous posts on this page, Zach?
Very much related.
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:27 am

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You wanted Alex to die fast on day 1 as I recall.

How do you feel about him now?
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:30 am

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I wanted camn to die more on day 1, and probably Battle Mage, too, but of two realistic lynches (alex and BM), I preferred alex.


I feel less sure he is scum now than I did then, in part because of the coaching meta applying when he is town. And in part because camn-town wrecked my alex-camn theory.


If I am reading your thought process correctly, you suspect BM and alex are scumbuddies?
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:32 am

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GIEFF wrote:I wanted camn to die more on day 1, and probably Battle Mage, too, but of two realistic lynches (alex and BM), I preferred alex.


I feel less sure he is scum now than I did then, in part because of the coaching meta applying when he is town. And in part because camn-town wrecked my alex-camn theory.


If I am reading your thought process correctly, you suspect BM and alex are scumbuddies?
You are correct.
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:32 am

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BM's frustration is his vote of Alex is my strongest clue.

I also happen to find them individually scummy as well.
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:36 am

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Looking at the votecounts... BM presents an interesting case...

He waggoned Mastin but ended up saying he was obvtown.
He waggoned GIEFF but when facing pressure suddenly expressed GIEFF Was town.
Now, after trying to get people to vote me and voting me himself, he expresses he thinks I'm town (while he is still voting for me). He voted me on D1, then unvoted to vote GIEFF. When GIEFF pushed my lynch. BM hopped on. Later, he voted jammer saying it was jammer+alexhans.

Also, loking at the votecounts... I've found some other issues that raised my attention (I'll look into them later, consider them a tocheck list but you can definetly answer/quote if you feel like):
1) Why did GIEFF went back to Mastin? (just because he couldn't get others to lynch me or Camn?)
2) Battle Mage voted Camn (twice)? Why, exactly? (was one following GIEFF or Benmage? What about the 2nd one?
3) Battle Mage suddenly voted for jammer, presumably to find the jammer+Alex scumteam. What happened to this?
4) jammer and SensFan weren't voting at the end of D1... why?
5) Why did jammer vote Benmage on D2? does he still feel the same about him?
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GIEFF wrote: If I am reading your thought process correctly, you suspect BM and alex are scumbuddies?
You are correct.
LOL.... That would be one hell of a bus.

I'll leave the rest of the comments for BM...
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:40 am

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alex wrote:1) Why did GIEFF went back to Mastin? (just because he couldn't get others to lynch me or Camn?)
Yes. I thought Mastin was scummy, just not as good a lynch as you or camn.
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:40 am

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Zach. Also, I take it that your suspicion about me now overrides GIEFF, Benmage and Battle Mage right?

You really Zach (If you get my drift).
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:41 am

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:D If Alex is scum and i get lynched tomorrow, then i'll be very happy. lol

Makes me wonder if thats what Alex was going for all along? :o

Anyway, if Alex is scum, after me, you'll be wanting to lynch Jammer.

That's all for now.

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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:42 am

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alexhans wrote:Zach. Also, I take it that your suspicion about me now overrides GIEFF, Benmage and Battle Mage right?

You really Zach (If you get my drift).
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:43 am

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Battle Mage wrote::D If Alex is scum and i get lynched tomorrow, then i'll be very happy. lol

Makes me wonder if thats what Alex was going for all along? :o

Anyway, if Alex is scum, after me, you'll be wanting to lynch Jammer.

That's all for now.

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You're saying you think alex was trying to link the two of you as a scumpair? Examples, please.
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:44 am

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alexhans wrote:Zach. Also, I take it that your suspicion about me now overrides GIEFF, Benmage and Battle Mage right?

You really Zach (If you get my drift).
On reflection of Benmage on day 2, he looks town to me.

I am also significantly less suspicious of Gieff than I have been in the previous two days of play. You are primarily responsible for this.

I am about as suspicious of Battle Mage as I am of you. I could easily cast a vote on Battle Mage should any kind of wagon form on him.
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:50 am

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alexhans wrote: 5) Why did jammer vote Benmage on D2? does he still feel the same about him?
Yes jammer. You said you still believe me to be scummy. How/Why?
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:53 am

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Zachrulez wrote:I am about as suspicious of Battle Mage as I am of you. I could easily cast a vote on Battle Mage should any kind of wagon form on him.
Don't give me this Cephir over BCC crap... We were equal on votes until you chose to vote me... If someone votes BM... will you vote BM then?
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:57 am

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alexhans wrote:
Zachrulez wrote:I am about as suspicious of Battle Mage as I am of you. I could easily cast a vote on Battle Mage should any kind of wagon form on him.
Don't give me this Cephir over BCC crap... We were equal on votes until you chose to vote me... If someone votes BM... will you vote BM then?
In that situation I preferred to lynch BCC over Cephrir.

In this situation, it really doesn't matter that much to me.
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:59 am

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then vote BM.
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:00 am

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EBWOP: Pretty please.
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