You might want to figure out what masons are first. There is almost never just one mason unless he is a recruiter... which he didn't claim.Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote: We are not going to lynch itacv2 unless someone counterclaims, period. To suggest otherwise represents a huge disconnect from reality.
Also, might I add that he said he had a PARTNER. They could confirm each other. If there is no partner, then he is obviously lying and is scum.Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:We are not going to lynch itacv2 unless someone counterclaims, period. To suggest otherwise represents a huge disconnect from reality.
He did claim... so we need his partner to confirm it. If his partner that he claimed he had does not confirm, then he is mafia since he was lying.ZazieR wrote:Don't want to comment until itacv2 has claimed. But he's not the lynch for today.
Alduskkel on page one, post three wrote:The Setup
2Mafia Goons
2Masons
7Vanilla Townies
Day Start
The Role PMs:
Vanilla Townie PM wrote:You are aVanilla Townie, and have nothing but your word and your vote. You win when all the Mafia have been eliminated and at least 1 Pro-Town player is still alive.
The Game Thread is here. Please confirm in thread.Mason PM wrote:You are aMason, and have the ability to talk to X at Night. You also know X to be innocent. Aside from that, all you have is your word and your vote. You win when all the Mafia have been eliminated and at least 1 Pro-Town player is still alive.
The Game Thread is here. Please confirm in thread.Mafia Goon PM wrote:You are aMafia Goon, and are a member of the Mafia with Y, another Mafia Goon. You can talk to Y at Night and also kill someone each Night. Aside from that, all you have is your word and your vote. You win when all Pro-Town players have been eliminated (or nothing can prevent this) and at least one Pro-Mafia player is still alive.
The Game Thread is here. Please confirm in thread.
You're overthinking this so hard it's not even funny.Exalt wrote:You might want to figure out what masons are first. There is almost never just one mason unless he is a recruiter... which he didn't claim.Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote: We are not going to lynch itacv2 unless someone counterclaims, period. To suggest otherwise represents a huge disconnect from reality.
He claimed to be a mason, and said he had a partner. I believe it would be smarter for his partner to also claim so that we have two confirmed townies. Even if one got NK'd, it would only confirm the other one even more. If we have masons then we also have a doc most likely, and I would assume the doc could also focus on one of them at night... thus scum have only a 50/50 shot of NKing them if they chose to take out either one of the confirmed townies.
His partner claiming would be the very best case scenerio for town... since two confirms would dwindle the mafia list down on day 1.
That is assuming he isn't mafia claiming mason right now... and assuming his partner isn't made up. That being said... even if he was mafia claiming mason and another mafia claimed mason as well, them surviving til a late lylo situation would only help town decide that they are both mafia if everyone mass claimed.
If you think about the possible good that it could do compared to the bad... I think it far outweighs the bad and they should claim.
Actually, its my own fault for not reading backup on page 1, because I didn't realize the setup was already given. That's my fault being in so many games and not paying attention.... blahDebonair Danny DiPietro wrote: You're overthinking this so hard it's not even funny.
Fact: There are a pair of town masons in this game.
Fact: Itacv2 has claimed mason.
...1) Someone counterclaims mason, we lynch Itacv2
.......A) Itacv2 flips scum, yay scum is dead.
.......B) Itacv2 flips town, we lynch whoever counterclaimed the next day, yay scum is dead.
...2) No one counterclaims mason.
.......A) Itacv2's partner claims, we lynch someone besides those two.
.......B) Itacv2's partner doesn't claim, this is dumb and sub-optimum strategy, but we still don't lynch confirmed town Itacv2.
It's a very simple syllogism.
The reason why I wanted itacv2 to claim his partner is because you could see from past posts that the only possible partner for itacv2 is Toro.Exalt wrote:He did claim... so we need his partner to confirm it. If his partner that he claimed he had does not confirm, then he is mafia since he was lying.ZazieR wrote:Don't want to comment until itacv2 has claimed. But he's not the lynch for today.
It is simple stuff here people. Either you get 2 confirmed townies or you get scum.
Unless you have played more games with me than I remember, this is false.Santos wrote:ZazieR, from the few games I've played with you you post the same way. Its not only meta that contributes to what I think about you, but your play style.
Can you give some of your recent finished town games?Santos wrote:My behavior in 790 was to win just the same as it is here. However, the longer I live and the fewer players that are around I do try to become more intense in my analysis. So far, it seems as we have some good information to prod with in confirming our masons today. From there we can begin to pick apart Zazie-town or Zazie-scum.
I just got called lazy by someone who has been promising a case for two weeks. Laugh.Exalt wrote:Yeah probably... except Meta game me and find out if its a true scum tell. I promised the analysis in 3 seperate games. I got the little "vote exalt because he didn't follow through right away" thing as well from them.
One game I was a townie, the other game I was a cop. Go ahead and meta.
If you don't meta, I would assume you are too lazy to even try or care, OR you are scum for voting me based on an analysis post that I didn't bring up yet. That isn't a scum tell, sorry.
If you don't want to play then replace out. If you want to keep playing without contributing then that's a strong scum tell.Exalt wrote:But keep "pressure" voting me if you like, because frankly I don't give a shit right now. I'll do things on my own time when I feel like doing them. If you don't agree go ahead and lynch me, but if you are town I would say its the wrong thing to do.
