Mini 808 - Rabbit Doubt Mafia: Over!

[molestargazer]

Before I go back and continue my read, I think it'd be a good idea first to catch up on the more recent events I've missed in my week or so off.

@Satan-guy

- The question was related to these 2 posts.

do you think everyone in town needs to scumhunt?

...
Well, yeah.

yeah, play like you want,
when you're dead

This makes no sense. Is this a point against Suit-guy or not?

You failed to answer my question, don. I asked if everyone (you included) had read the rules yesterday. If anyone had, you would have noticed what happens at deadline...

Whilst this is a very valid point, I find it a bit nit-picky. It's easy to forget these kinda things. He evidently didn't read the rules.
Silly mistake, but I don't think it's scummy. Either way, we would've only had 12 hours left, and the lynch still would've happened.

no lynch is not possible. you could have made a statement by voting KMD, and maybe some players would have changed their vote. Don't say there was no other option. There allways is.

This reeks of "Oh, look, there's another point, let's use it as if I've always said that".

so YOU should have been the one to try to get other people asking for the extension too. If you don't want to try that, you're just lazy.

This part of your case is "You should've asked for an extension"?
That's an awful reason to be trying to lynch someone. Not only that, he DID ask.

oh, and why is that? myko was pretty scummy day one, so lynching him didn't seem like a wrong thing for town. Unless you allready knew he was town.

What..?
This is just "Yeah, but you knew he was town because you're scum, which makes you scummy"?

Looking through White-suit-guy in Iso, he does indeed say these things:

mod: i request deadline extension.

please bold requests for an extension if you are interested.

why isn't anyone else bolding requests for an extension? are we all really so sure of myk?

I agree with white-suit that whether or not it's criticism is semantics and pretty pointless. Regardless, he brought the point up.

Just found this quote from Dr.House-guy in the quoter in Guy-who-sees-things' post 943:

No, but do they allways need to be lynched?

Quite ironic that he began to criticise White-suit guy for not knowing the deadline rule and lynching when he's said this - the lynch would've happened anyway!

Whilst Dr.House-guy has previously explained things I've seen in a reasonable manner, I think his case on White-suit guy is crap, and is partly riding along on things ninja-guy said in an attempt to lynch white-suit.

Unvote

Vote: Dr.House-guy

[Kmd4390]

At deadline, the player with the most votes is lynched.

unvote
vote tenchi

@ Tenchi, Battousai, & PhilyEc:
Which should be lynched? Don_Johnson or Gregory?

Why are Don and Gregory the options, but your vote is on Tenchi? Also, I'd like if you'd answer your own question.

You mean

who

should be lynched...


I really don't see much of a case against Gregory, so by default- Don_Johnson.

Do you think Don is scummy?

I asked awhile ago, but I don't think anyone responded. Are we ignoring Mastin because of his prior meta, or for other reasons?

Maybe because he's obvtown?

[Battousai]

Do you think Don is scummy?

Compared to Gregory, yes. Don isn't all that scummy, but some of his posts trying to defend his lynch vote are anti-town and off. Like not everyone in town needs to scumhunt, voting/lynching Myk even though he didn't see why he was scummy.

[Iecerint]

MSG, it looks like you're asking about this post:

Myko had a catch-up post where he listed his suspicions as he went along. As a result, he voted for two different players in the post. Phily argued that the post was scummy because he thought the evidence against the second-voted player was weaker than that against the first. It was the first "scummy" myko action apart from the RVS thing Kmd stuck with early on IIRC.

I don't think that myko's post itself was scummy, no. I don't think that play benefits myko as scum (or town). The post is best understood as poor communication skills (because the reason for the doublevote was not transparent) and/or poor play (regardless of alignment).

I don't think Phily was scummy to investigate the doublevote post, but his continued attack may be a little suspicious. On the other hand, a) we already saw him be volatile when Kre asked about his play deviation early on, so it may be null for him, and b) myko's defense could've been better, too, as I think Phily has since pointed out.

FoS: Kmd

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1. This is the second time this game that you have called someone obvtown with no clear basis for your belief.
2. Mastin is never obvtown.

[Looker]

@Kmd, I answered the question; furthermore, since SHC said that Tenchi isn't going to be replaced anytime soon, I'll just count his position as nonexistent, which means that everyone is either voting someone or is getting voted for. Everyone is involved. For right now, out of DJ and Gregory, I'd have to place my vote on Gregory for the reasons aforementioned; however, Gregory if you find someone scummier or you have more evidence to support a case against DJ, I'm here and reading and searching the thread for scum myself.

unvote
vote Gregory

[PhilyEc]

Ouch, sorry I've not been active the last week guys, I've been enjoying the end of summer to be honest..

I'll be reading over new content and posting my opinions.

[PhilyEc]

You mean

who

should be lynched...


I really don't see much of a case against Gregory, so by default- Don_Johnson.

^ This. Greg's initial play is far more enlightening than his current, but I do agree.

[PhilyEc]

I don't think Phily was scummy to investigate the doublevote post, but his continued attack may be a little suspicious. On the other hand, a) we already saw him be volatile when Kre asked about his play deviation early on, so it may be null for him, and b) myko's defense could've been better, too, as I think Phily has since pointed out.

FoS: Kmd

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1. This is the second time this game that you have called someone obvtown with no clear basis for your belief.
2. Mastin is never obvtown.

If you're truely curious as to wheter I'm usually 'hostile', then it would be in your interests to meta me, correct?
I thought KMD was being sarcastic about the 'obvtown+mastin' comment..

[don_johnson]

happy with the greg wagon.

Batt and phyl are my seconds. suspicions against me are crap at this point. no, i should not be above scrutiny, but the attacks seem forced and the fact that people are trying to encourage a lynch "by default" is just redonkulous.

[Battousai]

Man, you are full of OMGUS aren't you? I was asked to pick between you and Gregory, and I found there to be no case against Gregory, so by default I picked you. Did I vote you? No. Am I trying to get you lynched? No.

[don_johnson]

so do you have any other thoughts? or were you planning on riding a wagon based on a false dilemma?

who do you find most likely to flip scum and why?

[Battousai]

How am I riding a wagon, when I'm not on a wagon? Maybe I am, gotta check to see if Philey has 2 votes or not.

[molestargazer]

Man, you are full of OMGUS aren't you?

How is suit-guy 'full of OMGUS'? I've not seen an OMGUS vote towards you or vice-versa. Please explain?

who do you find most likely to flip scum and why?

I'd also quite like to know this. Who's your top suspect at this time and why? Please state reasons for your suspicion and not just by default.

[Battousai]

OMGUS is because he suspects me just because I said he was scummier than Gregory.


Until I can finish rereading D1, it is Philey. I still find his attack on Myk suspect (the double vote in same post).

[Looker]

...isn't someone supposed to be dying right now...?

do we have any masons? any carpenters? any craftsmen at all? i know SUMbody got a hamma...

[Iecerint]

Is Gregory at L-1?

I'm not really seeing the case against him. As far as I can recall, DJ made some odd responses to Kmd's comments ("some town players shouldn't scumhunt," etc.), which Greg jumped on, and then people started jumping on Greg. He was pretty vacuous Day 1 (but he replaced in late), and his predecessor knew about the flavor.

Has Greg done something else?

[don_johnson]

you misquote me. i said not all players

have to

scum hunt. big difference.

yeah, greg tried to push a shit case against me.

i believe he's at L-2.

[molestargazer]

Has Dr.House-guy done something else?

His case on white-suit guy was crap. My reasons for the vote are in this post, at the top of this page.

[molestargazer]

URL fail. You can still find it from there though.

[PhilyEc]

Yo Mod, got results back from exams and no ones happy. Going to be busy looking for a future so I need a replacement.

[Kmd4390]

FoS: Kmd

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1. This is the second time this game that you have called someone obvtown with no clear basis for your belief.
2. Mastin is never obvtown.

I trust my reads. Mastin is very likely town.

[Iecerint]

Are you still confident about Gregory, your prior obvtown read? I know you've FoS'd MSG. How serious are you about the DJ vote?

[Kmd4390]

Still confident on Gregory being town.

Still serious about Don being scum.

[Looker]

damn it. i would really like it if sum1 were to die rite now...

[molestargazer]

Why so eager, guy-who-sees-things?

Avatar-guy - Could you give reasons for that?