Mafia 98 - Apennine Mafia (Game Over)

[GIEFF]

I agree KMD's analysis is arbitrary, Vi - what I don't get is what you expect KMD to say about it.


Why did you unvote KMD, Vi?

[Yaw]

Vote Count:

Battle Mage (4): alexhans, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Zachrulez, Vi
jammer (3): GIEFF, Benmage, Battle Mage
Debonair Danny DiPietro (2): SpyreX, jammer
Benmage (1): SensFan
Zachrulez (1): Kmd4390

Not Voting: None

6 to lynch, even at deadline (Sunday, August 30 at midnight Eastern Time)

[Vi]

I agree KMD's analysis is arbitrary, Vi - what I don't get is what you expect KMD to say about it.

Why did you unvote KMD, Vi?

Saying something that would convince me of his position is always a good hope. While the post you linked gave me an answer, it didn't deliver in that regard.

I unvoted Kmd because I know he's not going to stop stalling today, he's not going to get a lynching wagon, and his stance is consistent enough that it's not worth the struggle to decry his existence.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

And while we're on the subject of lurking, it seems to be something that DDD, Battle Mage, and Jammer are enjoying the cover of while the deadline comes through too.

How's that for wafting around suspicion?...

That depends. Do you have evidence that jammer and DDD are onsite but not posting here? Battle Mage, no contest (see below).

I was in fact on site and not posting here. I read up yesterday, but nothing terribly interesting was said in my humble opinion so I skipped commenting for a day.

It's time for the Debonair Leo DiCaprio show, now that a jammer wagon is growing. Would you prefer jammer, or Battle Mage? and why?

Well lately jammer has been turning it on and doing his best to surge down my list, but I don't think he passes Battle Mage who was looking quite scummy earlier today and suddenly has gone missing right when it's appropriate for bandwagons under threat of deadline are being formed. There's no reason to give Battle Mage a pass for what appears to be a distinct strategy of avoiding this game when it's most vital to have some sort of contribution.

I'm simultaneously heartened by the fact that it's so hard to get a wagon on him together because I don't think it makes sense for BM-town to have so many defenders, but it also worries me a little that we might not be able to actually get the numbers together.

[SpyreX]

If it is a function of stopping a no lynch I will vote BM.

However, I still find that to be an abysmal vote.

@GIEFF:

See that case on jammer? That would have been nice as a starting point.

See the whole "Vote SpyreX or get lynched" business? That's not so awesome. Doubly so when -you- aren't even voting for me.

[GIEFF]

I was in fact on site and not posting here. I read up yesterday, but nothing terribly interesting was said in my humble opinion so I skipped commenting for a day.

You are capable of writing interesting things yourself, you know.


We have plenty of numbers for a BM lynch.

[GIEFF]

See the whole "Vote SpyreX or get lynched" business? That's not so awesome. Doubly so when -you- aren't even voting for me.

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[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

I was in fact on site and not posting here. I read up yesterday, but nothing terribly interesting was said in my humble opinion so I skipped commenting for a day.

You are capable of writing interesting things yourself, you know.

My favorite piece of completely trivial knowledge is that The Bowling Hall of Fame is in St. Louis, Missouri. They're moving it now to Arlington, Texas. This irritates me.

Oh, you meant about this game? Yeah if I had something interesting to say regarding that I would've said it.

[SpyreX]

Really? Lolreactions?

Here's a question of mafia ethics I have:

When the search was up, I had no qualms busting someone if I saw they were avoiding a game.

Now that its down, I'm starting to see some active avoidance happenstance. I haven't jumped all over this because it feels like dragging external-game information into this game.

Thoughts?

[GIEFF]

No, game-avoidance is a great scumtell. Don't bring in specific stuff from ongoing games, but you can say "so and so is active on site but not posting here" without being unethical.

In my humble opinion.

[SpyreX]

In that case: Jammer and BM have both been active on site. And not in here.

I really dont like it because I STILL think BM is town and am not ultraphysched about it.

Jammer's case seems so backwards and convoluted I don't like it. However, I really dont like him falling to the wayside as heat is applied.

[GIEFF]

The order in which my points are brought up does not have any bearing on their validity, Spyrex.

[Zachrulez]

Hmmm, Jammer's response to my inquiry dissapoints me.

I've gone back to his case, the points against DDD can be applied equally if not more so to Spyrex.

I'd like to know how he gets a scum read on DDD and a town one on Spyrex...

[Kmd4390]

Vi, I don't remember anything more than where I usually look in final vote counts. Look where those names were. That's as much as I remember about it.

What are you trying to show by bolding names that I mentioned before?

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Looks like BM is our lynch. Let's get some votes.

Unvote, Vote Battle Mage

[Zachrulez]

Vi, I don't remember anything more than where I usually look in final vote counts. Look where those names were. That's as much as I remember about it.

What are you trying to show by bolding names that I mentioned before?

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Looks like BM is our lynch. Let's get some votes.

Unvote, Vote Battle Mage

Uh... no, not yet.

Unvote:

To prevent a quick lynch.

[Kmd4390]

Quick lynch? Really?!?!? Just bus him already.

[Zachrulez]

Quick lynch? Really?!?!? Just bus him already.

There's still 5 days to the deadline and there's still discussion going on.

I'm looking at Gieff's case on Jammer now, I am dissapointed in Jammer's response and his case on DDD.

I want to see more from Benmage when he gets back from V/LA, and I want to give Sens a chance to get his case on Gieff out.

All things I think are more important then ramming a lynch through that can still happen later.

[Kmd4390]

Your intent is to try and switch things to Jammer.

If Zach is scum, so is BM. And Jammer would have to be town.

[Zachrulez]

Your intent is to try and switch things to Jammer.

If Zach is scum, so is BM. And Jammer would have to be town.

If that's what you think... but I will note your reaction, and also the fact that I am not voting for Jammer at this time.

He needs to explain his case and his reasoning better.

[Kmd4390]

I didn't say you were voting Jammer. Yet.

[Zachrulez]

That seems to be what you are predicting I will do regardless.

[Kmd4390]

Maybe not now that I said something. You just want attention shifted away from BM. Jammer was a convenient target. Your next move will be interesting. Personally, I'd just bus BM if I were you.

[Zachrulez]

Maybe not now that I said something. You just want attention shifted away from BM. Jammer was a convenient target. Your next move will be interesting. Personally, I'd just bus BM if I were you.

Hmmm... you seem really certain that BM will flip scum. Something about that bothers me...

[Kmd4390]

If you think it's because I'm bussing him, you have no reason not to be ok with lynching him because it implies that we are both scum.

[Zachrulez]

If you think it's because I'm bussing him, you have no reason not to be ok with lynching him because it implies that we are both scum.

I had no problem lynching him before. I want my questions answered first though. Also everything else previously mentioned. Sens case, Benmage, ect.