Mafia 98 - Apennine Mafia (Game Over)

[Kmd4390]

Alex, since this post:

Why not just have a 2nd preference for lynch Alex?

Because Im afraid of being wrong and his calling me stupid annoys me.

I'm going to play a soccer match now but when I come back I triple promise that I will read everything I missed and have my say.

BM has been scummy the whole game. The only problem is that, many times, his AtE seems genuine and, on hindsight, I can't find a motivation for Cephir over Vi unless Vi is scum.

Yeah, I suck... I've tunneled and now Im unsure... Now that Im so close to get what I wanted...

This is Newbie 744 all over again but without the replacements.

btw.

Unvote

Im gonna do some ISO Reads too. I guess.

And for the record, BM, my logic was NOT bad... you've done enough scummy things in my opinion.

PS: Surprising, right? I'll eagerly await any accusations about an BM+Alexhans pairing...

---random desperate thoughts

GIEFF would fuck up my sanity... So I still don't support a GIEFF lynch.

SpyreX still somewhat strikes me as town...

Im changing too much, right now...

this game has gone on too long.

I'm completely wifomed...

screw you all...

anyway... I keep thinking about pairs... and nothings makes sense.

I don't know...

jammer might be a good lynch.

bye.

You dropped one of the biggest towntells I know. Won't say what it is unless someone is desperate to know.

And how long have I been after Zach? Um. Day 3 I think? Maybe Day 2.

Why should I be voting Jammer on a connection to a player I think is scum instead of voting THAT player.

[Battle Mage]

Alex, since this post:

Why not just have a 2nd preference for lynch Alex?

Because Im afraid of being wrong and his calling me stupid annoys me.

I'm going to play a soccer match now but when I come back I triple promise that I will read everything I missed and have my say.

BM has been scummy the whole game. The only problem is that, many times, his AtE seems genuine and, on hindsight, I can't find a motivation for Cephir over Vi unless Vi is scum.

Yeah, I suck... I've tunneled and now Im unsure... Now that Im so close to get what I wanted...

This is Newbie 744 all over again but without the replacements.

btw.

Unvote

Im gonna do some ISO Reads too. I guess.

And for the record, BM, my logic was NOT bad... you've done enough scummy things in my opinion.

PS: Surprising, right? I'll eagerly await any accusations about an BM+Alexhans pairing...

---random desperate thoughts

GIEFF would fuck up my sanity... So I still don't support a GIEFF lynch.

SpyreX still somewhat strikes me as town...

Im changing too much, right now...

this game has gone on too long.

I'm completely wifomed...

screw you all...

anyway... I keep thinking about pairs... and nothings makes sense.

I don't know...

jammer might be a good lynch.

bye.

You dropped one of the biggest towntells I know. Won't say what it is unless someone is desperate to know.

And how long have I been after Zach? Um. Day 3 I think? Maybe Day 2.

Why should I be voting Jammer on a connection to a player I think is scum instead of voting THAT player.

That's ridiculous KMD. If you had a 100% towntell, you should have said it.

Your suspicions on the previous page are also pp.

Unvote, Vote: Jammer

Call it cold feet if you like. But i'm starting to prefer doing it this way round.

BM

[Kmd4390]

BM, trust me, if I

did

have a 100% tell, I'd have said so. I don't. Just a very strong one. Far from being 100% though.

[Yaw]

Sorry, alex -- I'd fix that double post for you, but it has a tendency to screw up the page numbering if I remember correctly. I'll make a note to myself to ask Jeep if that's still the case, and if it will be fixed for phpBB3.

Vote Count:

Zachrulez (2): Benmage, Kmd4390
jammer (2): alexhans, Battle Mage
Benmage (1): SensFan
Debonair Danny DiPietro (1): Zachrulez
Kmd4390 (1): jammer

Not Voting: Debonair Danny DiPietro, SpyreX

5 to lynch

[SpyreX]

No one wants to put a case together on Zach?

Sweet. Well, regardless the fact that jammer chainsaw'd KMD's vote on Zach and called it such makes me more than willing to go:

Unvote, Vote: Jammer

And back to this great world.

I could see Jammer-scum, Zach-scum or Jammer-scum, Zach-town after that manuever but despite my issues (which apparently are only mine) I can't see Jammer-town, Zach-scum and have huge reservations with Jammer-town, Zach-town with my other reads.

I'd also jump a DDD in a heartbeat.

[Zachrulez]

So wait, I was a little confused with Jammer in that paticular post... but he claimed a chainsaw defense vote on KMD based on KMD's vote of me?

[Zachrulez]

And I was confused with it because I thought he was accusing KMD of some kind of chainsaw defense.

[SpyreX]

No, he chainsawed him for voting you and announced it. He -could- be trying to implicate you but that just doesn't make sense as a town move.

[Zachrulez]

Something is really starting to bother me about KMD and Jammer. I need to try to put my finger on it.

[SpyreX]

Well I like KMD's thought process but I'm definitely not down with the lack of rationales for the opinions themselves on the players.

And, really, if there is a Zach-Jammer connection after that debacle it'd be more the other way than not.

So

[Zachrulez]

Your intent is to try and switch things to Jammer.

If Zach is scum, so is BM. And Jammer would have to be town.

This specifically bothers me right now. Yesterday he accused me of trying to mislynch him, today he's my scum partner. (I assume for consistency he will argue BM is too.)

[Benmage]

No one wants to put a case together on Zach?

I slapped mini one together.

unvote Jammer

choo choo.

[Benmage]

failure

unvote vote jammer

[Zachrulez]

^ That vote puts Jammer at lynch -1 by the way.

[Kmd4390]

Your intent is to try and switch things to Jammer.

If Zach is scum, so is BM. And Jammer would have to be town.

This specifically bothers me right now. Yesterday he accused me of trying to mislynch him, today he's my scum partner. (I assume for consistency he will argue BM is too.)

Shit. Forgot about that...

Hmm. The speed of this wagon makes me uncomfortable. And of course Spy is the L-2 vote. Hmm.

Unvote, Vote Spy

for blatantly bandwagoning all game. Zach just reminded me why I think Jammer is town. I think Spy/Zach/BM is the scumteam. Spyscum meands DDDtown and Zachscum means Jammertown. I think I actually have this figured out now.

[SpyreX]

Not one, nor two, but the whole scumteam?

Awesome.

Actually, this makes me think that the Jammer vote for KMD was some scum fake infighting - KMD would have looked a lot better tomorrow if Jammer is scum after that whole debacle.

Yea, comfortable with my Jammer vote. Calling Zach and I scum together for this makes me far more sure about Zach-town and Jammer-scum in this debacle.

[Benmage]

kmd is scum.

[Kmd4390]

Spy, I already had a scum read on Zach. The reason I suspect you more now is because you've been a part of basically every major bandwagon all game, including all three mislynches. I don't see any particular connection between the two of you, but you are both scummy. So I'm fine lynching either of you today. Also, seeing BM/Spy right in the middle of a wagon that is now at L-1 doesn't exactly make me want to jump on.

[SpyreX]

I'd like that read explained. See, I had things I saw but wanted to see beforehand and still haven't seen.

As for the "major bandwagons" - that is good rhetoric until you look at them contextually.

- Mastin stopped playing as a function of pressure.
- Cephrir, again, was a fine lynch considering all that content combined with staying in the game instead of being prodded out
- GIEFF, well after that whole fiasco I was damn near sure he was scum and the other choice was me

So, yea, being part of every wagon doesn't bother me and real hard for me to snirk condemnation over it.

I'll give you that BM has been less than stellar today and I dont like it. I'm holding to my original read though.

[Kmd4390]

Which read, Spy? The one on you?

[Battle Mage]

kmd is scum.

yeh, i could see that actually.

Unvote, Vote: KMD

Wonder if this will get any support.

BM

[SpyreX]

The read on Zach. The one on me would be nice though too.

Hell, any reads solidified.

[Battle Mage]

i got a scum read on KMD. With me brudda!

BM

[Benmage]

kmd is scum.

yeh, i could see that actually.

Unvote, Vote: KMD

Wonder if this will get any support.

BM

not when people keep dropping from wagon to wagon.

Jammer is scum, kmd is scum too. Jammer first.

[Battle Mage]

kmd is scum.

yeh, i could see that actually.

Unvote, Vote: KMD

Wonder if this will get any support.

BM

not when people keep dropping from wagon to wagon.

Jammer is scum, kmd is scum too. Jammer first.

what do you think about Zach?

BM