Newbie 841 - Game over!

[OMGHammer]

Just reading other games on the forum, I noticed a lot of conversation on whether or not random voting is necessary / helpful. Curious as to people's thoughts, especially those who have experience on this forum.

Also, a random question aimed more at the newbies, how much experience have you at this type of mafia (forum-based)?

Personally, I only have the bit of lurking and reading other games on this forum. I've played mafia with friends, but never before on forums with people I've never met. This is my first game.

No experience, but I've been looking around the forums as well as the random voting looks useful for starting debate. We'll have to start looking at everyone's randoms once everyone's involved for the voting patterns.

[Mafia_failure]

Just reading other games on the forum, I noticed a lot of conversation on whether or not random voting is necessary / helpful. Curious as to people's thoughts, especially those who have experience on this forum.

Also, a random question aimed more at the newbies, how much experience have you at this type of mafia (forum-based)?

Personally, I only have the bit of lurking and reading other games on this forum. I've played mafia with friends, but never before on forums with people I've never met. This is my first game.

Of course it is necessary. How else would people start an actual conversation? Would we have a serious post for the first post? If we did, it would be like blaming someone for no reason which is basically RVSing but only more serious. Besides we don't always want serious posts from the start and we want to gather tension up along the way anyway

[DeathNote]

FoS Deathnote

for not having the conviction to stay with his random vote: Could be that he's mafia trying to appear neutral

What you talking about? I voted for Fitz first, then voted T-chan for bandwagoning. Try not to make to many assumptions, k?

I think that random voting is a neat way to start the game, especially when there is a chance to find a scum slip from someone being careless.

[Tororingu-chan]

Deathnote, are you saying that your vote for me wasn't a random vote then?? @_@;; You voted me for bandwagoning?? From the tone, I thought it was jokey/random and you just liked wagons as much as I did~~~ xD

Whether your vote was random or not, you sure changed your mind about it fast. ^__^;; I was just reminding everyone to pay attention to the number on votes on people. L-2 isn't close to a lynch yet...

Vote: DeathNote

See? No problem~~~ ^_^

*Was the vote for me a random vote or not?
*What kind of slips do you think scum can give in the random voting stage??

Answer seriously, because my vote isn't random! ^_^

[Tororingu-chan]

@PaltryExcuse: I've had experience with this game before~~

It's fun!! d(^o^)b

[OMGHammer]

To be fair to Deathnote I'll

FOS Tororingu-chan

as well. The way they've ripped into each other I'm thinking that if one is town the other is mafia.
Still not enough suspicion to make me vote for one or the other though.

[Tororingu-chan]

@OMGLyncher: Ermm... >_< I don't think there's any reason at the moment to believe that just because we're arguing, one is us is mafia and the other one is scum.... arguments are commonplace in this game and you can't draw any conclusions on alignment from these disagreements... @_@;;

*What do you believe I did that deserved a FoS? >_<;;;

[DeathNote]

To be fair to Deathnote I'll

FOS Tororingu-chan

as well. The way they've ripped into each other I'm thinking that if one is town the other is mafia.
Still not enough suspicion to make me vote for one or the other though.

If anything, this deserves a FOS as in no way are we ripping into each other. We were jesting during a random vote stage.

I take it that you are still going to FOS me for voting for T-chan on my second random vote. I unvote because I wish to actually find scum now instead of playing around with her/him. (Whats your gender T-chan? )

Deathnote, are you saying that your vote for me wasn't a random vote then?? @_@;; You voted me for bandwagoning?? From the tone, I thought it was jokey/random and you just liked wagons as much as I did~~~ xD

Whether your vote was random or not, you sure changed your mind about it fast. ^__^;; I was just reminding everyone to pay attention to the number on votes on people. L-2 isn't close to a lynch yet...

Vote: DeathNote

See? No problem~~~ ^_^

*Was the vote for me a random vote or not?
*What kind of slips do you think scum can give in the random voting stage??

Answer seriously, because my vote isn't random! ^_^

It was merely a demonstration that bandwagoning should not be done. I suppose I should have FOS you instead but voting just seems to have so much more of an impact.

The slips I am looking for, is what Lyncher is starting to do, exaggerating little things and trying to make everyone seem scummy. In the end, it just makes him look bad for FOSing.[/b]

[OMGHammer]

Thanks for the advice. I'll try not to make those sort of mistakes in the future. I just felt that it looked suspicious, but if all the veterans say it is normal then I'll shut up.

[Pablo Molinero]

Unvote

OMGLyncher is handing out FoS's like Halloween candy and I have no idea what to make of Toro's almost panicked talking about wagons. Panicked vibe (that I also get with the smiley-posting-style) makes me lean towards scum.

[quote]Whats your gender T-chan? [quote]

...really? Check out the gender symbol under her name.

[DeathNote]

Unvote

...really? Check out the gender symbol under her name.

meh what makes you think I am that observant?

[Pablo Molinero]

*What kind of slips do you think scum can give in the random voting stage??

Since DeathNote has already posted, I'll pipe in and say that random votes in newbie games never seem to yield anything of value (in my expereince). While they help "get the ball rolling" so to speak, in the end they're just an irrelevant starting point. That faster we're out of the RVS, the better.

[havingfitz]

Also, a random question aimed more at the newbies, how much experience have you at this type of mafia (forum-based)?

This is my 2nd game ever. Talked into trying Mafia by my son (who is somewhat obssessed by it). First game went to the scum. I was townie and lynched on Night two.

Still too much random chat going on in here to form any useful opinions IMO.

Unvote

[PaltryExcuse]

I noticed a lot of conversation on whether or not random voting is necessary / helpful. Curious as to people's thoughts, especially those who have experience on this forum.

Of course it is necessary. How else would people start an actual conversation?

Some games start with random questions about how the game works, or just semi-loaded questions. People respond to them and work off those answers as leads to scum/townie.

Also going to

unvote

my completely random vote.

Answer seriously, because my vote isn't random!

If it isn't a random vote, what's your reasoning for voting? I'm unsure.

[Tororingu-chan]

It was merely a demonstration that bandwagoning should not be done. I suppose I should have FOS you instead but voting just seems to have so much more of an impact.

On the contrary, wagoning in the RVS is GREAT~~~!! It gets the ball rolling much faster! ^___^

Reasoning for voting DeathNote:

*I didn't like how he unvoted me the moment I told him to

Yeah, that's it.... strong argument? No, but what do you expect from page 2~
It was a more of a pressure vote than anything, but you know, pressure votes kind of lose their point if you tell everyone it's just a pressure vote... >_<;;

For now DeathNote's responses seem adequate, so I'll

unvote

. ^_^ I'd like to mention that L-2 isn't really close to a lynch -- you'd need both scum to jump on the wagon (not the cleverest of scum strategies) or two really clueless townies~~ I've actually seen the latter before and someone was quicklynched page one~! Town lost that game~

On FoS's

A wussy way of spreading suspicions around without actually voting~~~~ v_v I don't like them and I won't use them.... I think people should put their money where they mouth is and VOTE if they find people so freaking suspicious!!!! (too bad we only have one vote, right? ^_^)

In the case of OMGLyncher, my initial instinct is to attribute his compulsive FoSing to newbie error... I don't think he realises how heavy-handed a FoS is~! OMGLyncher, it's okay to voice your suspicious, but a FoS is serious business...!! O_O

@Pablo: Are you going to vote me for smiling?? ^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^
ehehehe sorry, but that's just the way I post~~

[DeathNote]

You think I am adequate? Aww.. why thank you!

Ok so lets get things rolling a bit. What role do you prefer to play and why?

[Mafia_failure]

Since this is a newbie game, anyone could act stupid with out knowing it. I also find people who FoS suspicious unless they have two people to choose which in this case is what OMGLyncher did. Its not a good idea to Fos in RVS but nothing scummy or anti-town.

[OMGHammer]

Since everyone else is doing it, and since my only reason for my RV was a now nonexistent OMGUS I'll

unvote

The reason I chose to FoS rather than vote was because my suspicion was due to the early accusations of bandwagoning: voting for either party worsens the situation for the town and just drags me into the argument.

[Mafia_failure]

I noticed a lot of conversation on whether or not random voting is necessary / helpful. Curious as to people's thoughts, especially those who have experience on this forum.

Of course it is necessary. How else would people start an actual conversation?

Some games start with random questions about how the game works, or just semi-loaded questions. People respond to them and work off those answers as leads to scum/townie.

Also going to

unvote

my completely random vote.

Answer seriously, because my vote isn't random!

If it isn't a random vote, what's your reasoning for voting? I'm unsure.

I think somehow that is what happening here

[MiteyMouse]

Tororingu-Chan...How many games have you played? Actually, I'd love it if everyone could answer that one for me please.

Also Tororingu-Chan...what is a short form that you'd like for your name? If I keep having to type the whole thing out, I'll want to lynch you just for that...hehehe! I was thinking Chan if it's ok with you. I also can't tell you how nice it is to have another girl in a game..a bunch of my games are all boys and the testostorone is starting to get contageious...hehehe!

[MiteyMouse]

Vel...I probably won't be around for the weekend.

[DeathNote]

I have played two games. One I was town and one I was Scum and both were wins. I am currently in two other games, excluding this one, however I have a bad feeling that I will be dead soon in one of them.

I enjoy playing town roles the most, because then I don't have to worry so much about my posts being scummy. People are always accusing me of being scummy so I like to rub it in the face when I flip town.

[ronnieroo]

On other sites I've played many games, on this site I've only played one other game.

I personally enjoy playing scum more. It's so much more fun to flip scum and have people go OMG! She was scum??? Besides that, for me, it's easier to make my posts not sound scummy if I'm scum. I know that probably doesn't make sense, but it really is easier for me.

Rondom votes don't really get you anywhere (normally), but they start the game. Random votes seem to be unavoidable, especially in a noobie game. I agree with Chan on the FOS'ing thing. I don't like FOS's and very very rarley do I use them. As for L2, it's not really close to a lynch, but it's not far away. All it'd take is one townie and one mafia to jump on the lynch (or the other two pairs that chan suggested).

[Tororingu-chan]

@MiteyMouse:
It's hard to say how many games I've played exactly~ @_@;
A long time ago, I've played on another (now defunct) website, and several more on this one, but I often replace in so there are lots of half-games... >_<;; Not on this account though, since I obsessive-compulsively create new ones every now and then. ^_^;;

You can call me T-chan or whatever you like~

@Deathnote:
I like playing an NK-immune, investigation-immune, everything-immune scum-aligned cultist copvig. Because I like being omnipotent of course~ Yeah~!!!

If you wanted a serious answer, town because I find scumhunting more enjoyable than trying to stay alive~ ^_^

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Questions:

@Mafia_failure:

I also find people who FoS suspicious unless they have two people to choose which in this case is what OMGLyncher did.

Did you or did you not find OMGLyncher's FoS's suspicious? o_O Why would it be less scummy if there are "two people to choose from"...? @_@;; I'm a little confused by your reasoning..... >_<

@OMGLyncher:

The reason I chose to FoS rather than vote was because my suspicion was due to the early accusations of bandwagoning: voting for either party worsens the situation for the town...

How would voting for either party (by that I assume you meant DeathNote and me, right?) worsen the situation for town??

...and just drags me into the argument.

Do you think it's a good idea for you to stay out of arguments? ._.

@havingfitz:

This is my 2nd game ever. Talked into trying Mafia by my son (who is somewhat obssessed by it).

What is your impression of your son's taste in games??? xD

[Pablo Molinero]

Tororingu-Chan...How many games have you played? Actually, I'd love it if everyone could answer that one for me please.

Er... 12-15 on mafiascum. Way too many to count IRL.