Mini 808 - Rabbit Doubt Mafia: Over!

[Kmd4390]

My bad, didn't hit enter. Should look like this:

Scum:
Looker
Iec

One is scum, the other is town:
CSL/Haylen

Not Scum:
Molest
Batt
Kmd

[CSL]

Ah. Well, I'll wait until everyone posts their guesses of a scumteam before I do anything.

But, might as well do one myself.

Scum:
Iec
Looker
Haylen

Not Scum:
Everyone else that is alive

[Kmd4390]

Scum:
Iec
Looker
Haylen

Yeah, I'm confident that this is the scumteam. I doubt you'd list your buddies as the only likely scum. The only way you are scum is if we aren't looking at a 3 person scum team, in which case this isn't LYLO anyway. There's no reason not to lynch Looker today.

[Battousai]

Vote: CSL

I still think Tenchi was scummy, and CSL hasn't eased my suspicions.

[CSL]

I'm not voting Looker until we have a response from everyone.

[Kmd4390]

Batt, who do you think CSL is scum with?

Btw, just realized a mistake in my last post. If Haylen is scum, CSL could be scum with Looker or Iec and the other would have to be town.

[CSL]

So, you are all assuming I'm scum?

[Battousai]

Dunno. I haven't really made too much of any scum connections yet.

[Kmd4390]

CSL, what makes you think I assume you to be scum?

[Kmd4390]

I'd also love to hear from Haylen..

[CSL]

Mod: Prod and/or replacement for Haylen please

I don't know. Post 1405, maybe?

[Kmd4390]

When I said it was still possible that you could be scum and I was wrong in clearing you?

[CSL]

Glad I asked about that post. I took it the wrong way. Sorry. D:

[Iecerint]

Kmd, it sounds like you're suspecting me because you suspect Looker and Looker suspects me. Also, your original question to Looker, CSL, and I regarding whether we were scum did not reflect your perspective of the scumteam. Do I have that right?

CSL, you've commented on Kmd's conclusions, but not his logic. Do you also like his logic, or did you arrive at your position from alternate means? For that matter, if you think Kmd is inappropriately assuming you are scum, why are you largely accepting his conclusions?

[CSL]

Iec, most likely alternate means. I never thought Kmd was inappropriately assuming I was scum. I was just wondering about that post is all.

[Looker]

Everyone: Who do you find the most scummy out of everyone here?

I would vote kmd, but I want to hear from him first about who his scumpair might be.

Ah. Well, I'll wait until everyone posts their guesses of a scumteam before I do anything.

But, might as well do one myself.

Scum:
Iec
Looker
Haylen

Not Scum:
Everyone else that is alive

I'm not voting Looker until we have a response from everyone.

What's going on? What are you doing?

[Iecerint]

I think we should lynch either Looker or CSL on the basis of their scummy behavior at the end of D3. Looker wasn't even voting DJ, and he told CSL to hammer him. Why didn't Looker just hammer him himself? Moreover, why was CSL so quick to take Looker's advice? DJ hadn't been at L-1 for very long. The latter is maybe a little less suspct because of DJ's self-L-1 (this is my first time seeing town do that), but that whole scenario was still very scummy in my eyes. Why has no one mentioned this yet? For all the talk of DJ's "scummy hammer," this definitely trumped it.

[Looker]

? Why would you drag me into that? What are you trying to do? Blame me for CSL's action? Regardless of whether you found CSL's action scummy or not (I don't), it doesn't have anything to do with me. My question is why throw my name into it?

[Looker]

Is it because I suspected you with KMD?

[molestargazer]

I gotta admit I was a little taken aback by little-avatar-guy's quick hammer of guy-who-wanted-me-dead.
Whether it classes as a scumtell, I'm unsure. As much as I hate to enter the realm of WIFOM,
+ I would've been happy to lynch guy-who-wanted-me-dead.
- I probably wouldn't have done it quite so quickly. This opens the barrier to the 'opportunistic scum' train of thought.

Either way if we are to believe you, we'd have to go under the assumption that you are town. But you're not. So how does that work?

Uh. Why are you so sure that avatar-bet-guy's scum?

Everyone: Who do you find the most scummy out of everyone here?

Not an easy question to answer. Why'd you want everyone's scumteam before you do anything?
I'm finding guy-who-sees-thing's play a little strange. But I don't have any meta on him to see if that's normal or not. For now, he'd be on my scumteam.
I don't like your (tiny-avatar-guy) hammer on guy-who-wanted-me-dead.

I guess the third scum is either New-ish-gal (Note: Not guy. I'm sure you can figure out who this is) or Satan-guy. I'm inclined to say new-ish-gal because of the severe lack of anything at all. Could be an 'under-the-radar' thing. If it's a V/LA, then I'd go with satan-guy purely out of elimination. I've seen nothing from him that screams scum at me so far.

[Iecerint]

? Why would you drag me into that?

You told CSL to hammer DJ when you weren't even voting CSL. I see no reason for a town player to do this. I think a town player who wanted to lynch DJ would first vote DJ, and then encourage others to vote for him. A scum player might convince someone else to hammer while refraining to vote to avoid responsibility for the hammer.

If there's a reason you didn't vote DJ before telling others to vote him, please explain. I may be missing an obvious explanation.

[Kmd4390]

Kmd, it sounds like you're suspecting me because you suspect Looker and Looker suspects me. Also, your original question to Looker, CSL, and I regarding whether we were scum did not reflect your perspective of the scumteam. Do I have that right?

Mostly, yeah. I still think there's a chance that I guessed right though. We'll see soon enough.

I think we should lynch either Looker or CSL

This statement...

is a good one.

Actually.

Unvote, Vote Haylen

No one has quickhammered yet. Haylen must be scum. If all of the scum were in Looker/Iec/CSL/and myself, the scum would have won by now. Haylen is scum or we aren't in LYLO.

[Looker]

Iec's Post 1420 - I don't think it's obvious, I just think it's simple: I didn't think she'd

do

anything, but she did. I know it was kind of rude, but that's kind of why I was laughing. I'd be damned if she didn't lynch his ass...poor DJ...

[Looker]

What day are we on, btw, like 15?

[Battousai]

A quick lynch would be very difficult to pull here. Scum, by nature, are mostly paranoid and self-preservation kicks in and makes them hesitant to turn a vote into a wagon in lylo as they would fear their scum team would not get on before the townie on the wagon unvotes and the spotlight gets drawn onto them. A townie, on the other hand, would turn a vote into a wagon if they felt the person was scummy, more easily. As more votes pile onto the wagon, scum become less hesitant and town moreso.

I believe there hasn't been a quicklynch, not because a player is inactive, but scum are too scared. Therefore, KMD, you shouldn't vote Haylen for this reason alone, but more on her scummy actions. Failure to do this is leading me to believe that you may be scum.