Mini 855: Colorless Rainbow Town (Halted for list mod error)

[ZEEnon]

Ok then..Upon first read I dont like Manz's

jumpin

on MM for noticing the difference in Mods rules or sample PMs or whatever.

I also dont like MM's quick vote on Manz. He does seem a little

jumpy

to me

This is really scummy. You basically have said the same thing for each of these two players. The first part basically says you don't like how Manzcar jumped on MonkeyMan576, and the second part says how you don't like how MonkeyMan576 jumped on Manzcar. You using the same evidence for each of them, as well as playing both sides of the argument is how you have earned my vote for today's lynch.

Vote: Raivann.

[ZEEnon]

My point is I don't think a pro-town player would have asked the question, or implied my position was anti-town.

So you are very confident that Manzcar is scum, correct?

So you are very confident that Manzcar is scum, correct?

Where did I imply this?

[ZEEnon]

Scien's questioning can both be seen a pro-town and scummy, in my opinion. I have a null tell on him/her.

Why did you post this?

Before I answer, let me ask you a question. In what situation would posting this be bad?

[ZEEnon]

I completely agree with the others that have pointed this out, this came out of nowhere:

...and I'm leaning town on Fuzzyman.

[ZEEnon]

I will provide a brief summary of how I feel about each player in the game as well as my rankings from town to mafia tomorrow.

[Fuzzyman]

As you can tell from my fairly late reply, I cannot be on as frequently as I would like to. Therefore, I don't know what could happen from the time I sign out to the next time I sign in. For all I know, it's been a hectic weekend, and I was unable to sign on. Therefore, a lynch could be realized even before I could see it progress. I think that even without voting him, voicing my suspicions of him gives the same results as me actually voting him. Hell, I said I would be voting him. Therefore, I think it gives the same result.

I would go so far to say that 5 votes over a weekend is highly unreasonable to expect.

[ZEEnon]

I've seen faster lynches.

[cruelty]

That is so annoying to try to read.


The danger inherent in rolefishing scum roles in my opinion is that it potentially leads to either speculation on town roles, or accidental claims/tells that give scum an advantage.

[MonkeyMan576]

As you can tell from my fairly late reply, I cannot be on as frequently as I would like to. Therefore, I don't know what could happen from the time I sign out to the next time I sign in. For all I know, it's been a hectic weekend, and I was unable to sign on. Therefore, a lynch could be realized even before I could see it progress. I think that even without voting him, voicing my suspicions of him gives the same results as me actually voting him. Hell, I said I would be voting him. Therefore, I think it gives the same result.

I would go so far to say that 5 votes over a weekend is highly unreasonable to expect.

Are you suggesting that people shouldn't vote for who they find suspicious? What's wrong with 5 votes when it takes 7 to lynch? Moreover, two of the "votes" were FOS's, why are you exaggerating his condition?

[ZEEnon]

I think you misunderstood what Fuzzyman wrote because I don't really understand what you are saying, MonkeyMan576.

[d3x]

I think you misunderstood what Fuzzyman wrote because I don't really understand what you are saying, MonkeyMan576.

+1

[MonkeyMan576]

It sounds like he is saying a 5 person bandwagon is too much, but it's not really 5 people.

[Dizzle]

As you can tell from my fairly late reply, I cannot be on as frequently as I would like to. Therefore, I don't know what could happen from the time I sign out to the next time I sign in. For all I know, it's been a hectic weekend, and I was unable to sign on. Therefore, a lynch could be realized even before I could see it progress. I think that even without voting him, voicing my suspicions of him gives the same results as me actually voting him. Hell, I said I would be voting him. Therefore, I think it gives the same result.

I would go so far to say that 5 votes over a weekend is highly unreasonable to expect.

Are you suggesting that people shouldn't vote for who they find suspicious? What's wrong with 5 votes when it takes 7 to lynch?

Monkey, as there are currently 2 votes on Raivann, I believe Fuzzy was saying that it is unlikely for 5 more Raivann votes to occur this weekend. Maybe you knew that and just have no problem with a quicklynch. Either way, I don't like how you cast suspicion on Fuzzy for merely saying that a quicklynch was unlikely. He was neither advocating for it or against it. To assume otherwise is plain scummy.

[MonkeyMan576]

As you can tell from my fairly late reply, I cannot be on as frequently as I would like to. Therefore, I don't know what could happen from the time I sign out to the next time I sign in. For all I know, it's been a hectic weekend, and I was unable to sign on. Therefore, a lynch could be realized even before I could see it progress. I think that even without voting him, voicing my suspicions of him gives the same results as me actually voting him. Hell, I said I would be voting him. Therefore, I think it gives the same result.

I would go so far to say that 5 votes over a weekend is highly unreasonable to expect.

Are you suggesting that people shouldn't vote for who they find suspicious? What's wrong with 5 votes when it takes 7 to lynch?

Monkey, as there are currently 2 votes on Raivann, I believe Fuzzy was saying that it is unlikely for 5 more Raivann votes to occur this weekend. Maybe you knew that and just have no problem with a quicklynch. Either way, I don't like how you cast suspicion on Fuzzy for merely saying that a quicklynch was unlikely. He was neither advocating for it or against it. To assume otherwise is plain scummy.

Quit twisting my words. Major, obvious word twisting. 5 votes does NOT mean quicklynch, and I specifically said that he was only on 2 or 3 votes.

[d3x]

@Mod- VoteCount, please?

[Dizzle]

Quit twisting my words. Major, obvious word twisting. 5 votes does NOT mean quicklynch, and I specifically said that he was only on 2 or 3 votes.

I'm not quite understanding. By more count, 5 more votes over the weekend would be a quicklynch.

[Dizzle]

EBWOP: By "my" count, 5 more votes over the weekend would be a quicklynch.

[MonkeyMan576]

Quit twisting my words. Major, obvious word twisting. 5 votes does NOT mean quicklynch, and I specifically said that he was only on 2 or 3 votes.

I'm not quite understanding. By more count, 5 more votes over the weekend would be a quicklynch.

I didn't read it as 5 MORE votes, I read it as 5 votes. So my bad on that, but I am not in favor of a quicklynch, for the record.

[d3x]

@MM- Now that we're all on the same page, what do you think of the original quote in that pyramid? ZEE is saying that he doesn't want to Vote because of the possibility of a quicklynch over the weekend. How viable do you think that is?

@Fuzzy- What do you think of Raivann's read on you?

@cruelty- You've said that RoleFishing Scum PRs is dangerous, how advantageous do you think it is? Do you believe the risk is worth the reward?

@Dizzle- You said that you were awaiting Raivann's justification for his read on Fuzzy. He gave it. What are your thoughts on his response?

@Sweep- Post something damn it.

[MonkeyMan576]

@MM- Now that we're all on the same page, what do you think of the original quote in that pyramid? ZEE is saying that he doesn't want to Vote because of the possibility of a quicklynch over the weekend. How viable do you think that is?

Quicklynches rarely happen unless there is a late scum bandwagon or there is strong public opinion against someone. Since we have both manczar and Raivaan as possible suspects at this point, I don't think a quicklynch is likely, or if it were to happen, the obvscum at the end of the lynch would give the town an advantage as far as info is concerned.

[d3x]

With that interpretation of how it would go down, do you think ZEE withholding his Vote is questionable?

[MonkeyMan576]

With that interpretation of how it would go down, do you think ZEE withholding his Vote is questionable?

I'd say his reasoning is suspicious.

[Josh Lyman]

@Mod- VoteCount, please?

Apologies for lack of formatting: posting from my phone.

Vote count:

Raivann: 3

Sweep (13) d3x (136) ZEEnon (150)

d3x: 2

Scien (7) Raivann (123)

ZEEnon: 1

Fuzzyman (100)

Hero764: 1

jasonT1981 (4)

Through post 171. With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch.

Note: I am looking for a replacement for Sweep, per Sweep's request.

I'll update again in about nine hours.

[Dizzle]

@Dizzle- You said that you were awaiting Raivann's justification for his read on Fuzzy. He gave it. What are your thoughts on his response?

I don't think there really can be any justification for "leaning town" on someone who has only uttered 2 sentences. I agree with Fuzzy that Manzcar's original response wasn't antagonistic but I don't see how throwing out a vote with his 2nd post could possibly be considered as pro-town. Sitting back and voting while letting others take the lead in discussion (and thereby possibly attracting suspicion) certainly shouldn't lead anyone to think that Fuzzy is probably town and Raivann deserves scrutiny for believing otherwise.

[d3x]

I don't disagree with your p173, but I do wonder if your feeling is so hardline now, what exactly were you looking for when you said...

I look forward to hearing Raivann's reasoning.