Mini 843- The Fast and the Furious Mafia! (Over-Mod Error)

[Starbuck]

Boxman - MordyS
DJ - Tjoe
Mordy - JereIC
SK - Spyre, DJ
Starbuck - Faraday
Tjoe - Starbuck, Boxman, SK


This is my current unofficial vote count.



So if the following is true:

I'm sorry but I didn't live in front of computer. I get online 1-2 times per day, may be 1-2 hours

Why in the fuck did you jump all over my ass? You started this shit you better finish it. This crap of "oh I'm not going to discuss it anymore" ain't cutting it.

in general...this case was made to test everyone's reaction. I wait for a day before I wanna start talking. and I believe some of you already start analizing.

Now, wtf Tjoe? All of that bullshit was to test reactions? I'm not believing it for one minute. You were trying your damnedest to get a case on me and you failed horribly. And since I proved you wrong, you are scrambling to backtrack and make yourself look alright again.


And another thing...

At this point, he's using outside the game influences and not anything that's happened in the game.

okay...I think this may go too far so I won't discuss this again....
but I'll watch you closely

How did this go too far? In my eyes, it "went too far" because it's true and is exactly what you were trying to do.

[Tjoe Min Ja]

when did I said that I wanna lynch Starbuck?

you better read it again...

@Starbuck : What I mean is I won't talk about your "post record issue" again
I ask for your explanation and when you give it I consider it "done"
@Spyrex : I'm not manufacturing anything...

now you said that it was "crap"
how about DJ and boxman who seems "interested" and think that it deserve L-2 and L-1?
I'm seeing this in two way :
1. DJ and/or boxman really convinced with my story
2. DJ and/or boxman is scum who wanna get a lynch

[don_johnson]

@Starbuck : What I mean is I won't talk about your "post record issue" again
I ask for your explanation and when you give it I consider it "done"

so what is wrong with other players doing the exact same thing?

now you said that it was "crap"
how about DJ and boxman who seems "interested" and think that it deserve L-2 and L-1?
I'm seeing this in two way :
1. DJ and/or boxman really convinced with my story
2. DJ and/or boxman is scum who wanna get a lynch

^^ somewhat of a false dilemma. can't speak for box, but my vote was due to the fact that you presented evidence which starbuck avoided dealing with. when she dealt with it, i removed my vote. if i were scum then why did i remove my vote so quickly? i.e. i could have easily lurked a page or so to see if somebody wanted to hammer, but as soon as i read starbuck's rebuttal i acquiesced.

unvote, vote: tjoe

how's that for a vote hop?

"oh no he didn't?"
yes. he did.

[JereIC]

Hold up a skosh.

1.) Was tjoe's case manufactured in any method?
2.) Is tjoe saying the case itself was fabricated for reactions?

If the answer to either of those is yes, then it's a no brainer.

I'll deal with SK later.

Did you actually read TJ's post?

@SK :I'm not "lurker conscious" as you think. I did check a little bit all of you but it took many time if I wanna check it throughly

I'm sorry but I didn't live in front of computer. I get online 1-2 times per day, may be 1-2 hours

@starbuck :I live in different timezone. if there aren't people who happen to be online when I login....should I split my post into several post so that I can boost my post count?

in general...

this case was made to test everyone's reaction.

I wait for a day before I wanna start talking. and I believe some of you already start analizing

DJ and Boxman jump after me and suddenly they pull back after hearing starbuck's explanation.

for now I'm leaning starbuck as town

and

that would make DJ and boxman scummy for keep hopping on bandwagoning

boxman get extra credit for putting starbuck on L-1 and of course trying to reverse the tide

He manufactured the case by overstating Starbuck's activity during her V/LA, and now is trying to claim he was just testing us all along.

Tjoe, you're at L-1 with DJ's vote by my count. It's claiming time.

[don_johnson]

L-1? hm, how exciting. let's have the claim.

[Starbuck]

@Starbuck : What I mean is I won't talk about your "post record issue" again
I ask for your explanation and when you give it I consider it "done"

so what is wrong with other players doing the exact same thing?

now you said that it was "crap"
how about DJ and boxman who seems "interested" and think that it deserve L-2 and L-1?
I'm seeing this in two way :
1. DJ and/or boxman really convinced with my story
2. DJ and/or boxman is scum who wanna get a lynch

^^ somewhat of a false dilemma. can't speak for box, but my vote was due to the fact that you presented evidence which starbuck avoided dealing with. when she dealt with it, i removed my vote. if i were scum then why did i remove my vote so quickly? i.e. i could have easily lurked a page or so to see if somebody wanted to hammer, but as soon as i read starbuck's rebuttal i acquiesced.

And DJ, for the record, that's what I understood it as. Just so that's made known.

[Tjoe Min Ja]

@Jereic : both case are legit and I use them in the same time

[Tjoe Min Ja]

the closest to my role would be "enabler"

[Tjoe Min Ja]

or "inventor"

[don_johnson]

which is it?

if you hand out items, do you know what they are?

[Tjoe Min Ja]

inventor suit it better

[Tjoe Min Ja]

8)Quoting the Mod:

DO NOT post anything inside the thread that I tell you through PM or you will be mod-killed.

This means do not quote your role PM, do not comment about your role PM flavor, and do not quote any night action results. A general rule to go by: if I said something you feel should be posted in thread, ask me first!


wanna get me killed, DJ?

[don_johnson]

any reason you not answer second question?

[don_johnson]

ninja'd.

go ahead and pm the mod. i don't think talking about whether or not you know what you are handing out is going to get you modkilled. if you can give things to people then you should be semi-confirmable, no?

unvote

discuss.

[Starbuck]

8)Quoting the Mod:

DO NOT post anything inside the thread that I tell you through PM or you will be mod-killed.

This means do not quote your role PM, do not comment about your role PM flavor, and do not quote any night action results. A general rule to go by: if I said something you feel should be posted in thread, ask me first!


wanna get me killed, DJ?

The only thing you can't do is nameclaim. You can role claim and point to a Mafiascum Wiki page or something like that.

Now I think that you are just stalling.

[Tjoe Min Ja]

ninja'd.

go ahead and pm the mod. i don't think talking about

whether or not you know what you are handing out

is going to get you modkilled. if you can give things to people then you should be semi-confirmable, no?

unvote

discuss.

it is IN my PM. so the result is pretty clear if I reveal it

[don_johnson]

if you don't want to get lynched i suggest you pm the mod with a paraphrased version of what you are able to do and have him edit it to suit the thread. very simple solution. much better than "assuming" things.

[Tjoe Min Ja]

@starbuck : I read mafia wiki trying to figure it out which one suit me better

at first I thought it was enabler but after I read inventor...it is better

[Tjoe Min Ja]

@DJ: I'll have mod answer that...

[Starbuck]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Inventor

The Inventor is makes various gadgets that can be given to other players. These can do anything from kill once during the game, to investigating once, to protecting the player from one death, to whatever else the Moderator can come up with. The Inventor can either start with all the items at the beginning of the game, or receive one every night or every other night to give out.

That's what's on the Wiki page, and that's what Tjoe is saying is closest to his role.

[Tjoe Min Ja]

^ that's me

let me give you a hint...

ASSUME that there are NO KILLING happen, I'll become VANILLA in 11 days.

I think that should answer the question whether I know or not the item that I give

[Starbuck]

So pretty much I just claimed for you. Why couldn't you do that yourself?

[Starbuck]

So pretty much I just claimed for you. Why couldn't you do that yourself?

[Starbuck]

Sorry double post.

[Shadow Knight]

You have *eleven* items to give out? Is that normal? I've never seen an inventor role in a mini with more than 4 items to give away. I'll make answering the question easier though.

@Tjoe- Are you given a description of each item you can give away including what benefit the recipient gets? Or is it just a list of items that you have to guess what it does?