Newbie 843 (Game Over)

[Meji Fan]

Ive sent the mod a PM, and if that fails will send the Newbie game listmod a PM

This is silly weve gone an entire page and 3 days since the lynch

[Meji Fan]

PMed the listmod

[hohum]

I'm here, sorry about that.

doing the votecount now.

[hohum]

Final Vote Count:

WrathOfShadows(5): EtherealCookie, manho, Zachrulez, Meji Fan, tubby216

bjl(1): Soyasushi,
EtherealCookie(2): WrathofShadows, crazypianist1116

Not Voting(1): bjl

With 9 Alive it takes 5 to lynch

Night actions due in 72 hours.

WrathOfShadows,

Vanilla Townie

Lynched, D1

[hohum]

A new day begins.

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

[WrathofShadows]

This should make things more interesting

[bjl]

no night kill, eh? looks like we have a doc, and they got lucky.

[EtherealCookie]

Well.
I was wrong about Wrath. I'm surprised, honestly.
First, we need to examine the bandwagon on Wrath. Look for those who have very little reasoning for their votes.

[crazypianist1116]

Definitely rereading.

To the doctor: Don't reveal yourself at the moment.

[Meji Fan]

Okay, Im definitely looking at bfl, first one to get to speculating on the doc is suspicious, not entirely unlike 'congratulating the doctor'

[EtherealCookie]

Why is it suspicious to assume first that we have a doctor? Nobody died tonight. It's not surprising someone might think there's a doctor.

[bjl]

Okay, Im definitely looking at bfl, first one to get to speculating on the doc is suspicious, not entirely unlike 'congratulating the doctor'

how/why is it suspicious? what other explanation is there? I guess it's possible the mafia chose to not kill, but that's not likely and doesn't make sense. If we had been past the 72 hour time-limit for night, I would have considered the possibility that the mafia didn't get their orders in.

[Zachrulez]

Okay, Im definitely looking at bfl, first one to get to speculating on the doc is suspicious, not entirely unlike 'congratulating the doctor'

how/why is it suspicious? what other explanation is there? I guess it's possible the mafia chose to not kill, but that's not likely and doesn't make sense. If we had been past the 72 hour time-limit for night, I would have considered the possibility that the mafia didn't get their orders in.

Why not? It gets everyone thinking doctor, and then the doctor (if there is one) becomes tempted to claim with the information they think they gained. It's actually a more common tactic than one might think. (Also consider that it can make for a good fake claim by mafia later in the game should it become clear to them that there is no doctor.)

[bjl]

Why not? It gets everyone thinking doctor, and then the doctor (if there is one) becomes tempted to claim with the information they think they gained. It's actually a more common tactic than one might think. (Also consider that it can make for a good fake claim by mafia later in the game should it become clear to them that there is no doctor.)

how are people not already "thinking doctor" with no one dying during the night?

What's the common tactic? Not killing so it looks like there is a doc, so you can claim doc? That seems quite risky.

[Zachrulez]

I've seen it work.

[tubby216]

Okay, Im definitely looking at bfl, first one to get to speculating on the doc is suspicious, not entirely unlike 'congratulating the doctor'

how/why is it suspicious? what other explanation is there? I guess it's possible the mafia chose to not kill, but that's not likely and doesn't make sense. If we had been past the 72 hour time-limit for night, I would have considered the possibility that the mafia didn't get their orders in.

Why not? It gets everyone thinking doctor, and then the doctor (if there is one) becomes tempted to claim with the information they think they gained. It's actually a more common tactic than one might think. (Also consider that it can make for a good fake claim by mafia later in the game should it become clear to them that there is no doctor.)

close ach, but what i believe ethreal and bfl are looking for is the cop claim.

see scum don't nite kill, leaves town thin doc suceeded , cop feel safe to claim knowing there is a doc to protect him, scum kill cop

however if we have one or both roles both should be quiet about who they are

[manho]

congratulating the doctor is always a scum tell, may be a small one though. may be fishing the doc claim, or building up a later doc claim. will examine the wrath lynch tommorrow. it's 2:30 am. really need a sleep.

[Meji Fan]

Okay, Ive done a reread on bfl . . . and he, like yernab, contributed almost nothing. Especially nothing on the whole Wrath case despite having at least a few people spefically ask him his thoughts. He just said he didnt see anything scummy, and asked what the case on Wrath was. And never replied after I presented my case

bfl is my new favorite person

Vote: bfl

[Zachrulez]

Okay, Ive done a reread on bfl . . . and he, like yernab, contributed almost nothing. Especially nothing on the whole Wrath case despite having at least a few people spefically ask him his thoughts. He just said he didnt see anything scummy, and asked what the case on Wrath was. And never replied after I presented my case

bfl is my new favorite person

Vote: bfl

Oh wow, I didn't realize he was an active lurking that badly on top of his doc speculation.

Yeah, Yernab was the one that was like... "This is what who I'd vote if I was scum, but I'm not scum, so I'd probably vote for this person instead." Right?

[EtherealCookie]

Did BFL jump on the bandwagon? I don't like the lynch the lurker policy on only day II. Seems like a terrible idea. I'm pretty sure at least one mafia is on the bandwagon. They tend to be.

[Zachrulez]

Did BFL jump on the bandwagon? I don't like the lynch the lurker policy on only day II. Seems like a terrible idea. I'm pretty sure at least one mafia is on the bandwagon. They tend to be.

BFL wasn't voting yesterday.

Mafia come in all different styles and sizes, and one of those is the not voting mafia.

[tubby216]

agrees with meji,

vote:bfl

[EtherealCookie]

...
Well, you have tubby's support. . I really, really, want to lynch him bad, but meta tells me that he behaves this way regularly. Agrees with Meji, vote. Amazing. Just amazing.

[Soyasushi]

Sorry for not being here for a while. Almost forgot about this game as I'm playing another elsewhere.

So, finally yernab/bfl is under suspicion? As you can see in some of my previous posts, I've already brought a case on yernab, but nobody exactly bothered because of the huge reads on Wrath. Thus, I'm still continuing yesterday's tunnelvisioning.

Vote: BFL

[Soyasushi]

Wait - Alright, it appears that either we have a doctor who managed to protect the one who was targeted by the mafia, or the mafia got lazy. Even then, I think the doctor will probably protect someone who appears most townish, or just most likely to be targeted by the mafia (Like, for example, I highly doubt he/she will protect someone like Tubby, for instance)

@bfl: "no night kill, eh? looks like we have a doc, and they got lucky. " Sounds more like you're upset the night kill got blocked than anything else.