Mini 855: Colorless Rainbow Town (Halted for list mod error)

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #750 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:07 pm

d3x wrote:
CM wrote:it was post 684 where he "was certain" he was targeted.
I know. Not to be a d!ck, but I was asking MM for a reason.

I think it will help in the hunt in the long run if we have all the possible scenario's laid out in an organized manner.
As the whole thing is WIFOM, I don't see how it
could
help. There are also almost an infinite amount of permutations that could have happened and what this is doing is serving to distract from actual Scum Hunting. I'm not trying to be mean or sh!t on your parade, but how does this help us to catch Scum? You said that it doesn't hurt, but neither does talking about the Dodgers' chances at the Series. The fact is, it doesn't hurt {possibly}, but it doesn't really help either.

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MM- How do you "know" that you successfully "RBed" someone?

I got a PM back from the mod.

jasonT1981 · Post Post #751 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:09 pm

Monkeyman is lying in his claim, he is scum. I am the cop, and I have a guilty on him from my night investigation. I am claiming cop so as to assure another scum is taken down.

vote:Monkeyman

d3x · Post Post #752 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:10 pm

Without quoting it directly {as that would result in a modkill}, what did it say? I'm asking you to paraphrase it as closely as possible. An option {to be safe} would be to write a draft, send it via PM to the Mod, and see if the wording is ok to post without getting in trouble.

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #753 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:10 pm

I doubt this is true. It's more likely he is a paranoid cop.

Vote: Chinaman

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #754 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:11 pm

d3x wrote:Without quoting it directly {as that would result in a modkill}, what did it say? I'm asking you to paraphrase it as closely as possible. An option {to be safe} would be to write a draft, send it via PM to the Mod, and see if the wording is ok to post without getting in trouble.

That I succesfully roleblocked Chinaman.

d3x · Post Post #755 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:13 pm

Everyone stop.

UnVote

If this is true, we need everyone and I mean

everyone

's reactions before moving forward with a lynch on MM.

Fuzzyman · Post Post #756 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:14 pm

Could we have a vote count, sir?

Skimming, this looks like some crazy stuff. I'll have a significant post tonight.

jasonT1981 · Post Post #757 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:14 pm

d3x wrote:Without quoting it directly {as that would result in a modkill}, what did it say? I'm asking you to paraphrase it as closely as possible. An option {to be safe} would be to write a draft, send it via PM to the Mod, and see if the wording is ok to post without getting in trouble.

my PM to the mod was as follows

for my night investigation as cop I choose to investigate MonkeyMan576

thank you

Jason.

as for the reply I am going to change the middle word to = so I am not directly quoting.

Monkeyman576 = Guilty

d3x · Post Post #758 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:17 pm

@Fuzzy- Unless there's a stray UnVote I'm unaware of, it's 2 for MM and 2 for China. jason and cruelty are on MM while Amished and MM are on CM.

Fuzzyman · Post Post #759 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:17 pm

You're veering awfully close to a quote. I'd put more para in paraphrase.

Chinaman · Post Post #760 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:19 pm

d3x wrote:
CM wrote:it was post 684 where he "was certain" he was targeted.
I know. Not to be a d!ck, but I was asking MM for a reason.

I think it will help in the hunt in the long run if we have all the possible scenario's laid out in an organized manner.
As the whole thing is WIFOM, I don't see how it
could
help. There are also almost an infinite amount of permutations that could have happened and what this is doing is serving to distract from actual Scum Hunting. I'm not trying to be mean or sh!t on your parade, but how does this help us to catch Scum? You said that it doesn't hurt, but neither does talking about the Dodgers' chances at the Series. The fact is, it doesn't hurt {possibly}, but it doesn't really help either.

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MM- How do you "know" that you successfully "RBed" someone?

The reason I said it would help is because I thought we could choose to go with a more likely scenario and start hunting from there. I tried to list all the scenarios that are on the table as of right now, but if this is not a good strategy, then so be it. It's where I would start though. My point wasn't to dwell on which scenario happened, but pick a likely one and hunt from there. Does that make sense? I have the feeling you think it would be a distraction due to wasting time talking about the scenarios themselves which isn't what I had in mind when I wrote it.

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #761 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:24 pm

Two scenarios:
JasonT is a sane cop, with a guilty verdict on me.

I am lying about my night action(roleblocking Chinaman)

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I am correct about Chinaman trying to kill Amished, and my rolebock stopping his kill.

Amished was targeted by a non-killer or a 2nd killer.

I tend to believe the first, because of Chinaman's peculiar behavior today, and of course, I know I'm town.

jasonT1981 · Post Post #762 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:24 pm

Fuzzyman wrote:You're veering awfully close to a quote. I'd put more para in paraphrase.

Well, if I get modkilled for it, you know Im telling the truth lol

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #763 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:24 pm

jasonT1981 wrote:
Fuzzyman wrote:You're veering awfully close to a quote. I'd put more para in paraphrase.
Well, if I get modkilled for it, you know Im telling the truth lol

We do? How?

Amished · Post Post #764 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:25 pm

What with MMan's claim, I believe Jason a lot more than I do MM.

1) Town roleblockers are extremely rare, so I think he's just a scum roleblocker
2) The way that MMan instantly chose to claim that JasonT was paranoid (unlikely role speculation = scum)
3) 747. With me claiming self-protect; he can't know that he roleblocked anybody. I'm not ruling out MMan attempting to bus China, but I think MMan is definitely scum in this situation.

In accordance to d3x's 755, I'll wait before a vote; and I want skruffs back now too.

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #765 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:25 pm

I meant I believe the second, obviously.

d3x · Post Post #766 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:25 pm

I feel that it would serve as a distraction because there is no possible way to know what scenario happened without outting more PRs which I believe is a bad thing. It's a whole big ugly batch of WIFOM otherwise. Scum Hunting without a scenario for why there was a NK last night is good enough, IMO. We didn't need one to catch onto Raivann, afterall.

Amished · Post Post #767 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:26 pm

/facepalm @ 763. If he's modkilled, his role is revealed, but he'd automatically lose. You can claim that somebody is guilty because of a cop investigation. Christ don't be so paranoid about it.

Amished · Post Post #768 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:27 pm

Also:

Unvote

Consider this like a cocked vote pointed at you, MMan.

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #769 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:28 pm

d3x wrote:I feel that it would serve as a distraction because there is no possible way to know what scenario happened without outting more PRs which I believe is a bad thing. It's a whole big ugly batch of WIFOM otherwise. Scum Hunting without a scenario for why there was a NK last night is good enough, IMO. We didn't need one to catch onto Raivann, afterall.

Amished is saying roleblockers are rare and this is worth a lynch.

Jason is assuming he is a sane cop, and this is worth a lynch.

This role speculation is highly speculative, and I don't see where the damning evidence is.

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #770 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:30 pm

Amished wrote:/facepalm @ 763. If he's modkilled, his role is revealed, but he'd automatically lose. You can claim that somebody is guilty because of a cop investigation. Christ don't be so paranoid about it.

Hmmm, I wouldn't think a mod would post a potential cops sanity after being killed if it verified his NK claim, but that's just me. But one can always hope.

d3x · Post Post #771 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:30 pm

Amished wrote:What with MMan's claim, I believe Jason a lot more than I do MM.

1) Town roleblockers are extremely rare, so I think he's just a scum roleblocker
2) The way that MMan instantly chose to claim that JasonT was paranoid (unlikely role speculation = scum)
3) 747. With me claiming self-protect; he can't know that he roleblocked anybody. I'm not ruling out MMan attempting to bus China, but I think MMan is definitely scum in this situation.

+1 huge.

Consider this like a cocked vote pointed at you, MMan.

Lol. I'm planning on Voting him the second that we've heard from everyone.

Also, I want to be absolutely clear here.

No one else Role Claim!

Seriously guys, we just offered up like 2 or 3 PRs for

one

potential Scum {assuming jason isn't paranoid, which I

highly

doubt}.

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #772 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:31 pm

Why wouldn't I say that Jason was paranoid if a sane result would lead to my lynch?

A town roleblocker lynch will severely hurt the town.

d3x · Post Post #773 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:32 pm

MM- Did you mean to quote me there {p769}? I don't get it.

Chinaman · Post Post #774 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:33 pm

Wow, a cop claim now. Good lord. I can easily see MM lying in this as I stated earlier. I also don't see why Jason would lie because if he was lying and MM flipped a town role, Jason is lynched by the time enough people check in D3. Worse case scenario is Jason is lying, we lynch MM who flips town and another town dies at night. That would leave one scum left to many more townies (assuming this is a 2 scum game). I'm happy with those odds. As per d3x's request though, I will hold off on the vote, but it's going on MM.
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Damn, I can hardly keep up here. MM: what peculiar behavior?
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