Mini 855: Colorless Rainbow Town (Halted for list mod error)

[MonkeyMan576]

And you say there is no appeal to emotion lol

It's not an appeal to emotion. I don't have an alterior motive. I want to be lynched to prove that I am town and Chinaman and Jason are the last scum.

MM: You flipping town doesn't "prove" anything. It's WIFOM. It's possible, but many many other things are just as possible. Do you get that?

It's probable. Jason's refusal to to admit he may not be sane is scummy.

[Amished]

No, it isn't. All cops always ask the mod if they have sanity issues if there's any question about it.

[Chinaman]

Alright Amished, I'll drop it.

Side note: This exact thing has happened in another game I'm in. There were no where near as many PR's in the open, but the guy is actually getting people to unvote him. So yeah, not going to buy it this time (I did in the other game) due to Jason's claim.

[d3x]

Lol. Firstly, I think everyone needs to lookup the definition of WIFOM. To my knowledge, it means claiming that someone wouldn't do something because it'd be too obvious. Half of the cases where it's called in the last page and a half make no sense.

Secondly, no one is going to lynch anyone. We have almost 2 weeks before the deadline and while I'm not advocating that we wait the entire time, we need more information before we do anything. Let's say that we lynch MM. Who's the 3rd Scum? Without everyone else discussing we have almost nothing to move forward on. We need everyone to discuss and remain active until said time... and then we lynch MM.

[Amished]

I don't expect you to unvote. You and him (I think d3x unvoted) are the only ones on him, 10 alive we need 6 to lynch anyways so I'm not worried.

[jasonT1981]

Please show me, in words where I have said I refuse to admit I may not be sane?

And please answer how you have gone from I am insane cop, to confirmed scum with your lynch?

[MonkeyMan576]

Okay, well enjoy life without your roleblocker then, and a roleblocker who has outed a mafia(probably) at that.

[Amished]

(This is what I meant with MMan always screws up his claims when he's scum with me that I mentioned early on in the game)

[Chinaman]

Amished: I got this on wiki also:

* Sane Cop: always gets correct results (i.e. "guilty" for anti-Town roles and "innocent" for pro-Town roles)
* Insane Cop: always gets incorrect results (i.e. "guilty" for pro-Town roles and "innocent" for anti-Town roles)

once the player realizes they are insane, they can generally produce effective results by reporting the opposite of what they discover

* Paranoid Cop: always gets "guilty" results (rare in games with a Godfather, for obvious reasons)

once the Cop discovers their sanity, they may stop investigating, as all results are equally useless

According to this, the way I read it is that the cop has to realize his sanity on his own. Is there a house rule for this site or something where the mod tells them?

[MonkeyMan576]

(This is what I meant with MMan always screws up his claims when he's scum with me that I mentioned early on in the game)

How have I screwed up my claim? There's no evidence of that, and even if I flip scum, it's because of the investigation, not the claim.

[d3x]

This exact thing has happened in another game I'm in.

If this game is ongoing, this can be considered discussing it. Stop before you get yourself modkilled.

You and him (I think d3x unvoted) are the only ones on him

As I've said befoer, cruelty has his Vote on MM unless I missed an UnVote. That puts him at 3 right now {L-3}. I'm not asking anyone to UnVote, but we need to be sure that we all know the Vote count before piling more on.

[Chinaman]

(This is what I meant with MMan always screws up his claims when he's scum with me that I mentioned early on in the game)

How have I screwed up my claim? There's no evidence of that, and even if I flip scum, it's because of the investigation, not the claim.

Wait, WHAAAA? an investigation can make someone flip something they aren't? <---serious question here.

[d3x]

Lol @ p809.

[Chinaman]

p810: noted. thanks

[d3x]

CM- It was just a

giant

sized ScumSlip. Don't worry about it.

[Amished]

I'll tell you why you messed up your claim after the game. Before Jason claimed cop I pretty much wanted to vote for you because of something you said regarding your claim.

@China: There's 2 situations regarding being a cop. You're told sane in your role PM (obviously you're sane then) and if it doesn't specify, smart cops PM the mod to ask if there's sanity issues. If the mod says there's no reason to doubt your insanity or anything like that, then you're good to go and you're sane. If the mod refuses to answer, you investigate a couple people (sometimes including yourself) to test your sanity.

[MonkeyMan576]

It's not a scumslip. I said "if I flip scum, it's not because I have a bad roleclaim, it's because I was investigated guilty".

[d3x]

I know exactly what you said, MM.

[MonkeyMan576]

Of course, I know I'm not scum, I was just making that statemnt from an objective mindset.

[Amished]

So you'll flip scum because you were investigated guilty and not because of your claim. Yes, we know.

[Chinaman]

MM, read what you wrote.

(This is what I meant with MMan always screws up his claims when he's scum with me that I mentioned early on in the game)

How have I screwed up my claim? There's no evidence of that, and even if I flip scum, it's because of the investigation, not the claim.

It's not a scumslip. I said "if I flip scum, it's not because I have a bad roleclaim, it's because I was investigated guilty".

[MonkeyMan576]

I know exactly what you said, MM.

Well, if you know what I said, you'd know it's not a slip, I was just making the point that my roleclaim hasn't been proven wrong yet, but Amished is acting like it was.

In fact I'm going to flip town, and I'll laugh my arse off when the mod does the writeup.

[MonkeyMan576]

So you'll flip scum because you were investigated guilty and not because of your claim. Yes, we know.

There you go again. I didn't say I'd flip scum, I said if I did, my possible lynch wouldn't be because of the roleclaim.

You guys are crazy.

[jasonT1981]

/facepalm @ 763. If he's modkilled, his role is revealed, but he'd automatically lose. You can claim that somebody is guilty because of a cop investigation. Christ don't be so paranoid about it.

Hmmm, I wouldn't think a mod would post a potential cops sanity after being killed if it verified his NK claim, but that's just me. But one can always hope.

Wait, are you actually hoping for a mod kill on a claimed cop here?

[MonkeyMan576]

/facepalm @ 763. If he's modkilled, his role is revealed, but he'd automatically lose. You can claim that somebody is guilty because of a cop investigation. Christ don't be so paranoid about it.

Hmmm, I wouldn't think a mod would post a potential cops sanity after being killed if it verified his NK claim, but that's just me. But one can always hope.

Wait, are you actually hoping for a mod kill on a claimed cop here?

If I were scum, which I'm not, and I were another townie player, I would hope he was nk'd to verify my guilt if it was posted he was sane.

Since I am town, and I think he is lying in his rc, yes, I hope he is nk'd.