Perfectionist Mafia - Resultas

[My Milked Eek]

dramonic. You do know that you're parroting #248 with your #249?

[Max]

Nook, Realityfan and SolemnJ have received a strike. Unless they pick up within 48 Hours I'll search for replacements.

[Deuxieme Octopus]

I would like to hear in your own words why this vote was deserved.

Very well sir. But can I use Snow White's words, too?

@ Saber. How are competing bandwagons useful for town? We should examine everyone as equally as possible instead of concentrating on two random individuals to avoid what could be an inevitable mislynch.

Unvote, Vote Saberwolf

This was what initially arched my eyebrows in the direction of Snow White. First of all, she was part of the initial RVS on BC, but as soon as he FoS'ed her (almost jokingly IMO) she dropped the vote, and put a useless inside-joke vote on Lowell. Then when Saber votes Snow White with his declared intention of a second (competing) bandwagon, she takes it as an opportunity to look as super-town as possible, and makes this Captain America, everyone-is-equal! post. If 1 bandwagon can be useful, why wouldn't a second one be just as if not more useful? Snow White's answer seems to be, "because the 2nd one's on me, and I don't want any negative attention whatsoever."

This makes me wary of the fact that so many of her posts either deal with non-game-related things (such as Empire of the Sun -- that whole exchange was very misdirecting) or open questions. Rarely does Snow White express any suspicion that's more than a slight jab here or there -- unless it's directed at Saber, in which case she becomes a little more verbose.

There's an extraordinary amount of "well if you don't like it, that's just who I am" type responses by her, which in my experience, are attempts to dispel suspicions without using Logic/tangible evidence. Which is always scummy.

I can provide more specific, quoted evidence if need be, but I'm late for an appointment at the moment. So I'll get back to this later.

[dramonic]

dramonic. You do know that you're parroting #248 with your #249?

Yes, it was unintentionnal double post. It said I couldnt post the sam message again, but didnt show I posted. so i modified it but it posted both ^_^;

[saberwolf]

dramonic. You do know that you're parroting #248 with your #249?

Yes, it was unintentionnal double post. It said I couldnt post the sam message again, but didnt show I posted. so i modified it but it posted both ^_^;

I actually thought it was intentional and you and MME were mocking me, lol

[Santos]

I caught up in Lost mafia and began reading here. I will work on a post tomorrow, as well as, catching up in a newbie game.

[My Milked Eek]

dramonic. You do know that you're parroting #248 with your #249?

Yes, it was unintentionnal double post. It said I couldnt post the sam message again, but didnt show I posted. so i modified it but it posted both ^_^;

I actually thought it was intentional and you and MME were mocking me, lol

I know I was.

Waiting for MrSuave.

[Max]

xRECKONERx replaces RealityFan

[BloodCovenent]

Welcome Reck.

[Max]

Sending Out Prods for past 72 Hours to the following:

Mufasa
Sanjay
Lowell
Wickedestjr

In Need Of Replacement

3. SolemnJ
5. nook

Prod Count

Mufasa - 2 (But Read First)
BloodCovenent - 1
DeathNote - 1
Santos - 1
Sanjay - 1
Lowell - 1
Wickedestjr - 1

[Sanjay]

Got the prod. I'll read up and post my reads and such either today or tomorrow.

[My Milked Eek]

Welcome Reckoner.
Long time no see.

[xRECKONERx]

Alright! All caught up!

I think Mufasa is rather scummy for #23. I couldn't tell what he was trying to do... he basically jokingly hinted that the BC wagon should continue, then basically repeats Snow White's #18 posed to BC.

Snow White's vote on Lowell in #25 is quite townie, in my opinion. The ensuing banter between SW and saberwolf on p.3 sounds to me like townies turning on each other.

Sanjay's #65 is odd, and I don't like it.

FoS: Sanjay

I think the game had progressed far past the RVS by the time he posted that, and it was a blatant attempt to add nothing to the game. Apparently, dramonic agreed with my assessment in his post #82. When Sanjay does receive a vote and finally gets pressured, he decides to come to BC's party a little late and vote him.

Suave's #104 is scummy as all get out, but I still don't like the Sanjay vibe a lot more than I dislike Suave using RVS-logic to explain a vote on Sanjay when we have obviously moved past the RVS. I also don't like his #110, where he says there's nothing to gather from the first few pages. If there's nothing to gather, or analyze, explain how I got my above paragraphs? And let's not even mention Suave's #129 where he openly admits to voting SW for regurgitated reasoning... right after he had just said he didn't see anything from what had happened so far literally 19 posts before.

Note: something about BC calling himself neutral after voting himself from the start just screams scum playing mind games.

Double note: Wicked and DeathNote apparently doesn't understand that unvotes don't mean anything.

I honestly can't believe the SW/saberwolf argument is still going on... dramonic hit the nail on the head with his post #150. Both SW and saber need to scumhunt instead of screaming bloody murder at each other for no apparent reason.

Sanjay's #175: is he defending BC? Why? Sanjay, do you find BC townish?

The game hit a pretty huge stall-out after this... odd. A ton of information to gain in the first few pages, and now none.

Read list coming soon.

[xRECKONERx]

Scummy

Mufasa
Sanjay
BloodCovenent
Lowell
MrSuave

Neutral

SolemnJ
nook
DeathNote
Santos
EtherealCookie
Deuxieme Octopus

Townie

saberwolf
AlmightyBob
Wickedestjr
dramonic
My Milked Eek
Snow White

[xRECKONERx]

Welcome Reckoner.
Long time no see.

Hellloooo, MME. You're one of my favorite people to play Mafia with, btw.

[Wickedestjr]

I'm back and will be catching up.

[My Milked Eek]

Welcome Reckoner.
Long time no see.

Hellloooo, MME. You're one of my favorite people to play Mafia with, btw.

Really now?
I don't know, because every game I played with you has been a loss on my side so far, lol.

J/k, it's awesome to have you here. Love playing with you as well.


On your 262-263;
About snow white's vote in 25;
you say it's pretty townie to do. But what do you make of this quote that comes directly after that vote?
"

@DeathNote. Why risk BC like this, for all you know he could have a power role. Is it worth such a risk?

"

According to her logic, no one should vote. At all. Yet she votes for Lowell. For being inactive in a previous game. That doesn't add up, does it?


You're right about Sanjay. He's using a crap reason to vote BC and is a few pages late. By the time he voted BC there was several other stuff happening (iirc) so I think he was just playing safe and going with the most obvious antitown play so far. And the 175 you pointed out clearly contradicts his vote on bc (and also pretty hypocritical considering he's still voting for BC).

[Mufasa]

Hey guys, been away with school, so I believe that the Snow white train needs to be toughened up. Move faster.

vote: Snow White

[Santos]

Caught up.

Wow, Mufasa, if I could, I would daykill you for that post.

FoS: Mufasa

.

Welcome, RECKONER, it seems I don't play any game without you being in it :p

Also, I think this Snow White wagon is bullshit. There is nothing substantial upon it except bandwagon votes with crap reasons.

I'm going to reread BloodCovenent and Lowell. They are particularly scummy, imo.

[My Milked Eek]

I'm going to reread BloodCovenent and Lowell. They are particularly scummy, imo.

Please do so. Very interested which one of the two posts that Lowell has is tipping you.

[xRECKONERx]

@MME: Very true, but I get town vibes from SW. I can't really explain a "gut" feeling like that. Well, that's false, I can if I iso the posts and go through them one by one. But I'm drunk and totally not doing that right now. Glad you agree about Sanjay.

Also,

Vote: Mufasa

for 267.

[MrSuave]

well... now that we're getting a replacement I'll look through the list of people again, and see who I think is scummy

[Max]

one person said they may replace in and a few said they'd be willing in the future.

[Wickedestjr]

Let me rephrase: 1: do you believe that whats been done in this game so far is actual scumhunting, or us tunnelling on those who make poor choices of wording in posts? 2: Are we catching scum slips, or dumb slips in your opinion, 3: based on post value?

1: I don't think it's the best scumhunting, but we are certainly out of the RVS. I think we are making a pretty good effort to progress to a stage where we have strong enough cases worthy of a lynch.

2: Scum slips or just misinterpratations.

3: Post value?

SW and cookie, SW being either noobtown or noobscum and cookie trying to take some of the pressure off her through chainsaw defence

SW and BC: VERY unlikely, but you gotta consider everything.

I doubt that SW is scumbuddies with Ethereal or BC.

How do you not understand the sentence, yet claim I addressed one of your points but not the others?

I knew which point it was in response to, but I didn't understand it. So please explain it.

First: I looked over the other points later, and responded to them.

Second: I'm sorry, should we ignore posts until the sixth page? How about we change that. Let's all ignore all the posts until the 10th page!

First: Where?

Second: I'm not saying we ignore them, but how strong would you expect them to be that early in the game?

Question for everyone: How do you play as scum?

I'm not scum in any of my completed games, but if I was scum, I'd probably just be more cautious.


I'll finish catching up later. Sorry.

[Max]

Lowell has until Tues before I search for his replacement