Mini 859 - Cleansing of Falls Church - Over

[ZazieR]

EBWOP EBWOP: Even brothernature's alt has posted since BN's last post here.

Ethics: You don't reveal an alt

[BigBear]

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Especially in an on going game :/

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[ZazieR]

@BigBear & IdiotKing: Are you still happy with your current position on the Cookie wagon?

Nothing's changed to make me reconsider my vote. I prefer getting rid of useless people first so they don't screw things up later when we're in more dire situations.

Policy lynch voter.
Also, IK should have explained why he hadn't called other 'useless' players out.

[ZazieR]

I think that the argument is over a small detail that's pretty trivial in the first place.

@BigBear & IdiotKing: Are you still happy with your current position on the Cookie wagon?

Nothing's changed to make me reconsider my vote. I prefer getting rid of useless people first so they don't screw things up later when we're in more dire situations.

Brothernature also fits that description, no? What makes EtherealCookie appeal to you more?

Vote: Brothernature

Why did you vote BN?

[DeathRowKitty]

Ethics: You don't reveal an alt

He already revealed it in-game anyway. If you don't want an alt revealed, either don't tell anyone or don't get an alt.

brothernature asked to be replaced in response to the prod sent him.

Well, it's not as bad as if he was replaced without request, but I still don't like that he didn't even post in-thread to tel us. It's as if he didn't want to come to the thread and make it look like he's not acknowledging what was said about him.

Both are very stubborn to see that it's a town VS town discussion.

Why do you think CA is town?

[ConfidAnon]

Sorry, haven't been active, will post more Sunday.

[Looker]

okelidokeliy

[brothernature]

Just so the replacement isn't utterly condemed, I felt like I should post why I replaced out. My computer has broken down, and I've been reduced to posting from my iPhone, a tedious task. Typing something up as short as this takes quite a bit of time. So I felt that instead of lurking, I would just replace out of all but 1 of my current games. Replaced out of this and Open 175. I was left in my Newbie game, and was just lynched yesterday. And I'm not really up to the task of a full game, so I'm just going to stick with Newbie ones until I can get my computer fixed or something.

[Sanjay]

Well, whether you are scum or town, brothernature, that's real decent of you to post explaining yourself after requesting replacement. I wish that was done more.

Sorry about your computer and sorry we don't get to play with you anymore.

I'm a little confused though why you don't feel up to the task of a full game though.

[Looker]

So does that mean the people voting brother can...um...transfer over to Confid...?

[ZazieR]

I read it. I disagree. I wouldn't have been set off by Nook's post.

You aren't FC. It may not have set you off, but it did set FC off.

BigBear's No Lynch vote and Shrinehme vote were fresh, relevant and discussable. Just the first person who came to mind.

Disagreed. It was FC's vote that got discussed due to Bear's No Lynch vote. And nobody, not even you, mentioned the Shrine vote at that time.

But given that, as I already told you, I wasn't actually pushing for Far_Cry's lynch; that my Far_Cry vote was really more of a casual or RVS-ish vote, why does it matter whether I'm getting EtherealCookie's opinion of BigBear or Far_Cry? As I said also, my goal wasn't really to get opinions of BigBear; rather just to get EtherealCookie to join in the discussion and talk more. Information is yielded either way.

Question: What was your opinion of FC's vote against Bear? And what was your opinion of Bear's No Lynch vote?

Your example about self-voting isn't the same as what happened here. It's an invalid comparison.
As for you giving him a way out, you shouldn't know what he thinks. By answering before him, we don't know what his real intensions could have been.

The game took a more serious turn around page 6. I did want to include a Vote: Brothernature in Post 173, but I didn't want to give up the Far_Cry vote at the time. Because 1) I didn't want it to seem as though I dismissed him, and 2) he'd fell off of the radar after some vote piled onto him..
The time you replaced in, I decided to take it off. Your post 242 [which I quoted] prompted me to look for a better vote.

But the actual BN vote came much later then when you wanted to vote him according to you. How come?
Also, why did you want to vote BN back at Post 173?

[ZazieR]

It takes 7 to lynch.

7

Why did you point this out?

[ZazieR]

So, people still voting for me. I'd like to actually hear questions from you, because I don't understand why you still have my votes on me if you have absolutely no questions for me, which would mean you aren't suspicious of me.

Is this also not the case regarding your vote against Shrine?

[ZazieR]

I'm going to

unvote ZazieR; vote brothernature

I'm pretty sure he's scum.

Why?

[ZazieR]

Mostly to start discussion. I felt as if the RVS was carrying on for quite some time.

Yet, you never discussed about your No Lynch vote yourself. Eventhough you state you wanted to start discussion. And instead, you changed your vote. How come?

To give that Chainsaw Defense against me some merit? Mostly to bandwagon for some discussion.

How serious is the question? Also, didn't you call Sanjay a bandwagoning monster? So how come you bandwagoned here?
It also makes your EC vote look bad, as EC actually had a reason for suspecting Shrine.

Mostly from Mastin.

Not Mastin ._.
In all the times he did it, I don't think it has worked. At least, not in my games with him.
And please look at the post that had the defence in it that I don't like.

As for my points against BN:
-The first point is lurking, which I normally have nothing against. But he tries to make it seem good by stating that he's observing. And we all have seen what his observing has been.
-His vote against Nook was bad, because he stated it was for pressure. By stating it was for pressure, it loses the purpose of pressuring, giving me the impression it's fake.
-My last point is active lurking, which is different than lurking.

I'm going to wait until a vote count, to vote.

The VC was a few posts up. How come you missed it?

[ZazieR]

Yeah, I second the votecount, I'm lost.

Thanks alot, Peabody!

How come you missed the VC a few posts up?
Also, why did you thank Peabody?

[ZazieR]

Wait, are there really players saying that BN fits his town meta by basing it upon activity?

[ZazieR]

vote brothernature

Why?

[ZazieR]

leaning town

-EC

Could you elaborate more on this Zazie? What about EtherealCookie makes you think he's Town?

Gut and due to the wagon against EC.

[ZazieR]

Looker

- Why the switch to Confid in Post 489?

[ZazieR]

Welcome

KoC

^.^
What do you think of IK, the guy you replaced, stating that he doesn't like gambits (See his defination of a gambit), while liking Bear's No Lynch vote which fits his description of a gambit?

[ZazieR]

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Especially in an on going game :/

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I don't understand this post

[ZazieR]

Both are very stubborn to see that it's a town VS town discussion.

Why do you think CA is town?

Due to the attack against you. It was a bad one, but I don't see scum do it.

[ZazieR]

So does that mean the people voting brother can...um...transfer over to Confid...?

I won't.
Confid still reads as town and BN/replacement is still scum.

[DeathRowKitty]

Both are very stubborn to see that it's a town VS town discussion.

Why do you think CA is town?

Due to the attack against you. It was a bad one, but I don't see scum do it.

Here's my take on it, for what it's worth. The initial accusations were anti-town and clearly not based on any sort of attention to facts. As you've said though, scum wouldn't be any more likely than town to initiate such an attack. That's why I didn't vote him initially and the initial attack isn't why I'm voting him. It's his insistence on trying to say I did something I very clearly didn't. A townie trying to scumhunt wouldn't want to make a case based on things that aren't true. On the other hand, I can see CA-scum trying hard to defend his arguments, especially after he based a vote on them. If CA is town, it also raises the question of why he would want to drop the issue if he thinks I'm scum. Basically, everything I said here.