StrangerCoug's Worst Nightmare: D├®j├á Bastard (Game over!)

[ZazieR]

I'm not really buying this. It seems pretty powerful for town to have a day vig and a night vig. Also, vig is nigh on untestable claim for scum.

Not sure what to think of it myself. Because if he's a vig, he could just kill the player he thinks is jester during the night.
But there's no point in lynching him today. The night will give us more information.

[Faraday]

Eh, his claim seems fairly testable for the moment at least.

We can always get him to self vig, later if we think making shit up as he goes along. If he doesn't we lynch him.

need to go re-read.

Unvote

[Seraphim]

Unvote
Vote: Bogre

[Fishythefish]

@Data: would you prepared to self vig if it was that or get lynched (and waste a lynch for the town)?

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Bogre (1): Seraphim
cateraction (2): Malcolm, Raivann
Datadanne (4): Col.Cathart, X_~, cateraction, Mufasa
Raivann (2): Fishythefish, BloodCovenent
RayFrost (1): LlamaFluff
X_~ (2): ZazieR, Bogre
Not voting (4): Datadanne, RayFrost, Tjoe Min Ja, Faraday

With

16

players alive, it takes

9

players to lynch.

The unvote at #547 does not count by request.

Corrected as per the below.

[Seraphim]

Mod: does the unvote in 551 count? Because I'm fairly sure that Faraday just unvoted.

[StrangerCoug]

Mod: does the unvote in 551 count? Because I'm fairly sure that Faraday just unvoted.

Yes it does. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

[LlamaFluff]

See cool. If he is a SK, we reach that point when we reach that point, let scum deal with the WIFOM. No one should counterclaim vig, but at this this reassures my read on him as "not scum".

We really should lynch RF who is in super lurker avoidance role

[Seraphim]

I really want to hear Malcolm and Bogre weigh in on the latest events.

I am also all for Datadanne self-vigging himself tonight.

[LlamaFluff]

I am also all for Datadanne self-vigging himself tonight.

No.... no no no no no no.

People who ask people to do this are just wrong. There are practically zero situations where it is the pro-town thing to do. Asking a vig to kill themselves to me is a scumtell since you are controlling the kill, and you are getting rid of useful town.

[Seraphim]

I am also all for Datadanne self-vigging himself tonight.

No.... no no no no no no.

People who ask people to do this are just wrong. There are practically zero situations where it is the pro-town thing to do. Asking a vig to kill themselves to me is a scumtell since you are controlling the kill, and you are getting rid of useful town.

Except that Data is useless and I don't believe his claim at all.

And if it's a scumtell, why aren't you voting me?

[LlamaFluff]

I am also all for Datadanne self-vigging himself tonight.

No.... no no no no no no.

People who ask people to do this are just wrong. There are practically zero situations where it is the pro-town thing to do. Asking a vig to kill themselves to me is a scumtell since you are controlling the kill, and you are getting rid of useful town.

Except that Data is useless and I don't believe his claim at all.

At worse Data is a SK. If he is a SK, he has to make logical kills at night or he will be lynched, so he could be a SK that has to act kinda townish. Scum dont know if he is a vig or SK, if he is a vig they need to kill him soonish, if he is a SK, they still need to find a way to get rid of him.

Im not voting you because RF is still scum, although I would not be against a you lynch, partially because ive seen Drench play SK once as super lurkey/useless, partially yeah due to things regarding Data play here.

[Seraphim]

Hmm. Alright. Now for my second question.

Why did you single me out when numerous people have called for Data's self-vigging?

[Raivann]

See cool. If he is a SK, we reach that point when we reach that point, let scum deal with the WIFOM. No one should counterclaim vig, but at this this reassures my read on him as "not scum".

We really should lynch RF who is in super lurker avoidance role

RF is a bad choice.
You should reread him.

[LlamaFluff]

Hmm. Alright. Now for my second question.

Why did you single me out when numerous people have called for Data's self-vigging?

You were right above me, easy to quote

[LlamaFluff]

See cool. If he is a SK, we reach that point when we reach that point, let scum deal with the WIFOM. No one should counterclaim vig, but at this this reassures my read on him as "not scum".

We really should lynch RF who is in super lurker avoidance role

RF is a bad choice.
You should reread him.

At least he will participate. I realy dont like all the softclaims we have had either way. SOMEONE needs to have them all typed up and hold people to what they have to be for later in the game.

@Data - Does your role mention "nightmare land"

[Seraphim]

Hmm. Alright. Now for my second question.

Why did you single me out when numerous people have called for Data's self-vigging?

You were right above me, easy to quote

So, alright. Third question. Would you be adverse to any person's lynch that has called for Data's self-vigging?

[Raivann]

To help

Raivann

a bit:

Post 156 – Why ~Jordan,

Raivann

?

And this time with reasons, other than: 'I think he's scum'

Post 177 – Why not check if it’s true,

Raivann

?

Also, anything you want to say regarding your 'lyncher'-comment?

Just trying to figure out what Llama was up to is all.

As for why Jordan, there was his rvs play.
He calls my post bullish, i ask what he means, he say's illogical but thats not what he means.
He lols alot
His hop on Tjoe wagon seemed fake.
There was more just cant remember it now.
His saying he has alot of time on his hands then dissappearing when he gets votes.
All his posts had a scummy flavor to em.

wow I completely missed that...though its nothing to be amazed at.
@Raivann my defin of bullish is around the same as illogical, except...i can't say it means illogical either...lol.

1 sec...

Don't know what to make of cateractions unvote of me when he was voting Data.

@cateraction-So who do you wanna lynch today?

[Datadanne]

Data - How did you know Deathnote's playstyle?

Played with him in other games.

@Data - Does your role mention "nightmare land"

Why yes, Yes it does.
And i can´t self vig -.-

[Fishythefish]

I think Datadanne is a bad lynch. Even if he is a SK (which is more likely since he claims he can't self vig), keeping him alive is the right move for a while. The scum have a lot of reason to take him out - protown vig is a great kill for the scum, and SK isn't a bad one. No reason for us to waste a lynch.

[RayFrost]

We really should lynch RF who is in super lurker avoidance role

I just recently finished a game as scum, you want the link?

Anyway, since I'm such a lazy bum, I'm reading from page 10 (or 15) on and then just going to say who I find scummiest and vote them.

[RayFrost]

scratch that, up till I replaced in, not from Pg10

[Tjoe Min Ja]

I agree that "Data's self-vigging" is not the correct lynch.

we should give him a day so that we can get a better reading.
if in D2 he can't give a good vig result, then we lynch him.

[Col.Cathart]

Sigh... I'm not so sure about this claim (two vigs? I know it's a bastard game, but still...), but I guess, we can wait and see what will happen on the next night.

Unvote

Ray, you better this time keep your promise and make a good post, or my vote will find another owner pretty quickly.

[BloodCovenent]

IMO, a night vig is very easy to claim day one as scum. What if night 1 there is only one kill, and it's town. Scum that claimed vig can say that was them, and they had a bad call. Then what if there is never two kills at night. If that be the case, then I say it would likely be that this player that claimed vig is really scum. Imagine if we had zero kills night one, or night two. "oh, I must have gotten blocked." It's an extremely hard claim to justify at the moment. That's why I feel uneasy about it.[/list]