Mini 862 ~ Mafia of Order (Game Over!)

[VP Baltar]

Kmd and fuzzy--Cobalt lynch isn't going to happen. Time to put your vote where it counts. Check the vote count before if you plan to vote saber, however.

The fact that you're driving my wagon with no logical explanation irks me big time.

I gave legit reasons to be voting you: mega scum coasting. It is funny that immediately after I did that you suddenly had "trend analysis" vaguery that indicated the opposing wagon to you was scum. How convenient.

You're already off the hook today and we'll lynch saber who we both know is a proven VI and likely scum.

I wasn't worried and I don't accept bribes.

@Cobalt 217
1)mimicking reasoning
2)acceptable scumhunting
3)strawmanning my wagon on him
4)calling almost half the town scum on "trend analysis"
5)buddying to me

So, you're 1 for 5. Come better next time or vote DDD.

DTMaster--please look over the cases on DDD and saber. Determine which you think is more likely to be scum and help put one of these players at L-1 so we can get a claim today. Tomorrow is deadline and it is of the utmost importance that we keep ourselves organized.

Kmd-again, time to vote, please. I grow weary from all this asking.

[fuzzylightning]

VP: Saber is at L-1 now so he should be claiming and DDD is at L-2. DTM is already voting for saber as well.

[saberwolf]

Claim: I am Laura, the Carefree Saint, a Townie Cleric [Vanilla]

Post restriction: 50 posts, and almost already used up half >.>

Voice of Yune: I sense at least two power roles in this set-up

I win when all mafia are dead

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

204: You do realize you are applying a formula derived from newbie games to a normal games. Just as a warning: 3rd party variables and more advanced mafia concepts make trend analysis tougher.

Hence why I just use some of the principles as guidelines as to who is scum and not porting the complete formula over to other formats.

@KMD/DDD about Sabre
Wut? Content < ACSN 1 liners? Explain.

He opens with a bad vote where he conflates stupid or obnoxious play with scummy play and the proceeds to tack on a random reason as well which dilutes any seriousness he originally had. He then votes me not out of real conviction that I'm scum, but simply because I'm available as not him, he's taking the path of least resistance.

@DDD
Just noticed. Cleared VP because he didn't go for an easy bandwagon on ACSN/Sabre. But wouldn't that mean you are attacking the easy bandwagon?

Just because it's easy doesn't mean it's wrong, the point is that Saber took the path of least resistance while VPB took what I view as an unneeded chance which suggests more town than scum.

The fact that you're driving my wagon with no logical explanation irks me big time.

I gave legit reasons to be voting you: mega scum coasting. It is funny that immediately after I did that you suddenly had "trend analysis" vaguery that indicated the opposing wagon to you was scum. How convenient.

So, your best reason is playstyle, pretty terrible reason VPB.

[Vi]

Don't get so steamed up, Mr. Fancypants! You just look silly. Nothing personal... I just don't like men like you!

Vote Count:

saberwolf (L-2) ~

Goatrevolt,

DTMaster, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Locke Lamora, Cobalt, SensFan
Debonair Danny DiPietro (L-2) ~ VP Baltar, saberwolf, Goatrevolt, Sotty7, Juls

Cobalt (L-5) ~

SensFan,

Kmd4390, fuzzylightning

VP Baltar (L-7) ~

Cobalt

Sotty7 (L-7) ~

Juls

-Deadline will hit at 2100 EST tomorrow - 25 hours from now.

--With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
--Deadline is Saturday, October 17 2009.

(This is your last day!)

Post Count:

saberwolf - 17
Cobalt - 34
Debonair Danny DiPietro - 15
DTMaster - 8
fuzzylightning - 9
Goatrevolt - 21
Juls - 8
Kmd4390 - 22
Locke Lamora - 5
SensFan - 21
Sotty7 - 8
VP Baltar - 18

[SensFan]

Unvote, Vote: saber

[saberwolf]

unvote; vote: sens

for being a dick and a dumbass and i refuse to waste posts on him

unvote; vote: DDD

Bold tags moved about to fix this post for the greater reading of the rules.
Incidentally, you just used a post. ~Vi

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

We've got a scummy and useless player claiming vanilla. I am not claiming, make of that what you will. Someone needs to secure the saber lynch before deadline.

[Juls]

I think this is worth wasting a post on to say that I would seriously be voting for Kmd right now if we had more time. I think DDD is the better choice of the two we have to choose from and it's primarily because his association with Kmd. I also think DDD gives us more information than if saber was lynched.

[Vi]

Quick Vote Count:

saberwolf (L-1) ~ DTMaster, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Locke Lamora, Cobalt,

SensFan,

SensFan, Kmd4390

Debonair Danny DiPietro (L-2) ~ VP Baltar,

saberwolf,

Goatrevolt, Sotty7, Juls, saberwolf,

Kmd4390

Cobalt (L-6) ~

Kmd4390,

fuzzylightning

SensFan (L-7) ~

saberwolf

Deadline is in about 90 minutes.

[VP Baltar]

Unvote, Vote: DDD

[Vi]

Quick Vote Count:

saberwolf (L-1) ~ DTMaster, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Locke Lamora, Cobalt, SensFan, Kmd4390

Debonair Danny DiPietro (L-2) ~

VP Baltar,

Goatrevolt, Sotty7, Juls, saberwolf, VP Baltar
Cobalt (L-6) ~ fuzzylightning

Deadline is in about 84 minutes.

[saberwolf]

Pisses me off that almost every game (90%) i get lynched day 1. 100% of the time i flip town. This time will be no different.

I claimed, nobody disputed my claim. DDD refused to claim and has been pretty scummy about it. I say he should be the one lynched.

[fuzzylightning]

Unvote, Vote: DDD

[Vi]

Quick Vote Count:

saberwolf (L-1) ~ DTMaster, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Locke Lamora, Cobalt, SensFan, Kmd4390
Debonair Danny DiPietro (L-1) ~ Goatrevolt, Sotty7, Juls, saberwolf, VP Baltar, fuzzylightning

Cobalt (L-7) ~

fuzzylightning

Deadline is in about 60 minutes.

[Vi]

...Here shall I cross... from this world...to death's dry kingdom. I always suspected...that it would come to this.

Vote Count:

Debonair Danny DiPietro (LYNCH) ~ Goatrevolt, Sotty7, Juls, saberwolf, VP Baltar, fuzzylightning, Kmd4390

saberwolf (L-2) ~ DTMaster, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Locke Lamora, Cobalt, SensFan,

Kmd4390

--With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
--Deadline is Saturday, October 17 2009.

(This is your last day!)

Post Count:

saberwolf - 19
Cobalt - 34

Debonair Danny DiPietro - 16

DTMaster - 8
fuzzylightning - 9
Goatrevolt - 21
Juls - 9
Kmd4390 - 22
Locke Lamora - 5
SensFan - 21
Sotty7 - 8
VP Baltar - 18

-----

--- Debonair Danny DiPietro ---

Bastian, Townie Liaison (Neighborizer)

--- Lynched Day 1...

It is now Night 1. You have 48 hours to submit actions.
Day 2 will begin at 2100 EST on Monday.

[Vi]

Due to the site being down, you have an additional 12 hours for Night.
This will necessarily add 12 hours to Day 2.
I'm sure you won't mind.

[Vi]

Fear no manner of death. Mourn only that you are powerless to change it...

--- Juls ---

Tanith, Townie Guardian (Permanent and Total Protector)

--- Killed Night 1...

-----

Vote Count:

Not Voting:

saberwolf, Cobalt, DTMaster, fuzzylightning, Goatrevolt, Kmd4390, Locke Lamora, SensFan, Sotty7, VP Baltar

-It is now Day 2! Everyone has been prodded.

--With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
--Deadline is Saturday, October 27 2009.

(7.5 days left)

---Why IS makes it so hard to find high-quality art of secondary characters is beyond my understanding.

Post Count:

saberwolf - 19
Cobalt - 34
DTMaster - 8
fuzzylightning - 9
Goatrevolt - 21

Juls - 9

Kmd4390 - 22
Locke Lamora - 5
SensFan - 21
Sotty7 - 8
VP Baltar - 18

People eligible for an BaM inactivity modkill:

(reserved for those who do not post at all today)
You

[fuzzylightning]

@Cobalt, who did you sacrifice your posts too and how many did you give them?

[VP Baltar]

I agree with fuzzy's question.

Also, can you give the reasoning behind your vote switch at the end of the day fuzzy.

[fuzzylightning]

Yes, I didn't want to waste the post at the end of the day, but I decided to switch based on the fact that DDD refused to claim at the end of the day. Had he claimed I would have had to decide upon which claim I believed more, but the fact that he refused to claim made me believe that he was the correct lynch for the day.

I am letting everyone now, that in a few hours I will be gone until late tomorrow night so I might not post again until Thursday.

[Sotty7]

I have been insanely busy today and just flying though to say I am here. Can't believe Juls was a townie, I thought she was scum. Fail on my part. I will have to look back over the game tomorrow morning when I get some time.

Also I was given the extra posts, seven of them in fact.

[saberwolf]

um, I was given an extra seven posts too...

and I gotta say

FoS: KMD, sensfan

I hate how they votehop with no reasons attached to their votes at all. Just because we need to be faster about it doesnt mean you can deliberately act scummy with your voting. It doesn't help town at all.

[Vi]

...Why does this happen?! My people fight, brother against brother... And no matter what I do, I can't stop it!
I'm a miserable failure. I just want to crawl into a cave somewhere. How can anyone believe in me now?

Vote Count:

Not Voting:

saberwolf, Cobalt, DTMaster, fuzzylightning, Goatrevolt, Kmd4390, Locke Lamora, SensFan, Sotty7, VP Baltar

--With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
--Deadline is Saturday, October 27 2009.

(7 days left)

Post Count:

saberwolf - 20
Cobalt - 34
DTMaster - 8
fuzzylightning - 11
Goatrevolt - 21
Kmd4390 - 24
Locke Lamora - 5
SensFan - 21
Sotty7 - 9
VP Baltar - 19

People eligible for an BaM inactivity modkill:

(reserved for those who do not post at all today)
Cobalt
DTMaster
Goatrevolt
Locke Lamora
SensFan

[DTMaster]

@Vi
Tanith was ok for a pegasus knight. I found the game's pegasus knights to be meh in comparison to FE7. I ended up using Nepheene for my lance user. I guess her average power makes her have a smaller fanbase? At least in comparison to Ike and Soren and such..

1) Reinforce. I don't care if it's practically useless (and only in FE9), it's still cool.
2) Personality.
As a unit, yes, she was kind of unfortunate.
Florina still beats everyone.

Hm? @Sabre/Sotty you were given extra posts?

I was given extra posts last night I went from 65 - 72. I thought Cobalt said he couldn't multi-target. I was waiting for him to claim his target to confirm Cobalt's A ability since I thought he targeted me. :S.

Since I didn't post this before night ended:

@Sabre
I can flavor confirm your role since Laura was one of the few useful brigade members on the team. But if we refer back to fuzzy's Yune's message

Voice of Yune told me that PRs are independent of alignment

It's scum hunting 101 again.

That said I want some answers. Starting with:

@KMD
Why did you unvote to sabre then changed back if your gut pointed to DDD. It reads as opportunistic vote hopping to force a wagon through day 1. Also do you maintain by your gut reasoning for your scum list?

@Sens
Why did you unvote and revote sabre 20 minutes after your 1 line unvote/vote on sabre. If I do an ISO read on you I see the same post happening twice. It makes no sense.