Mafia 102: No-Frills Game Thread(Town wins!)


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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:18 pm

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This is the link and bugger you for making me find it when I'm posting on the phone at work.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=

look at him pushing green something. Grenn dude? Hoever is lynched day 1
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Super Accurate* Vote Count(as of post 500):

RayFrost - 2(mask man, crypto)
Staple - 4(le Chat, bigmc109, muh316, Pomegranate)
crypto - 1(X_~)
X_~ - 1(EtherealCookie)
muh316 - 1(Sando)
bigmc109 - 4(Staple, charter, Empking, SerialClergyman)
charter - 1(hiphop)

Not Voting:Kaiveran, RayFrost

*Not guaranteed to be accurate.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:20 pm

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Crypto - you JUST SAID that towns are keen to lynch such players. So why would that be useful as scum? Would you do it as scum?
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:22 pm

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Because it's easy to get away with. In my experience, lurkers survive a couple days at least as often as they don't.

Really, though. Staple is scummy for his actions.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:25 pm

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Nope. Bigmc lynch. Let's go people. Stop with this staple nonsense.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:13 pm

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charter wrote:hiphop, if I do it as town as well, it isn't a scumtell, hence not a reason to vote me. Obviously I could still be scum and doing it, but you can't vote me for that reason since I do it as town too (you can, but it's a really bad/scummy vote).
In case you don't know I was lynched both times I did it, so I guess it is. Besides if you are comparing it to when you did it, are you not playing to your town meta? And that is a scumtell.
charter wrote:Yeah, this is suspicious and is a scumtell. It's hard to believe you've been doing this in every game and no one has set you straight.
charter wrote: A scum tell is an action more likely to be taken by scum than town. It doesn't matter who does it more often. It matters who stands to benefit more from the action.
Your words can be applied to my case. This last quote contradicts the first one I posted.

Another contradiction in post 418 and now.
charter wrote: I think the opportunistic votes he
quickly
garnered make him very likely to be town, and those voting him very likely to be scum.
And yet you want to have a speedy wagon on Bmc. Tell me, what is the difference between the speedy wagon on staple, compared to if you had got what you wanted (a speedy wagon on Bmc)?

Where is staple on your scumdar? Closer to townie, neutral, or scum?
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:16 pm

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Due to certain circumstances, former posts 499, 500, and 502 have been deleted from the thread. However, anyone currently in the game or their replacements may PM me to see those posts along with the reasoning for the deletion.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:51 pm

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Bigmc wrote:Yes, muh is looking pretty bad, and if Staple flips town, I'll definetely be voting muh tomorrow.
So this is apparently the biggest scumtell in the game so far? As far as I can see, Bigmc hasn't 'pushed for tomorrows lynch', he mentioned this in passing and I haven't seen him mention it since.

Yes, it's a scum-tell, but it's certainly not as clear-cut as it's being made out. For instance, if Bigmc flips town, I will see it as a further scum-evidence against Muh, Serial and Charter. Now if that pushes me over the point of scuminess to thinking they're scum, I will vote them.

I personally think Bigmc flipping town would paint a big sign for Muh and Serial, for pretty obvious reasons I think. Merely stating this viewpoint of mine isn't a scumtell. I know there's a difference in Bigmcs case, but I'm not sure how it makes for the biggest scumtell in the game so far...
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:10 am

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@Mod: Can I replace out please?

Sorry guys but I just don't have the time to give this game the attention it deserves. Hope this does not influence future games we play together.
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:20 am

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bigmc109 wrote:Is that really what all this is about? If by "setting up a lynch" you mean "giving my D2 thoughts if Staple flips town", then you're right. I'll admit that "I'll be voting muh" might be
slightlly
strong language, but you're definitely blowing it way out of proportion. If Staple flips town, I'm not running at muh with a noose, but I will be asking him a few questions. My first post on day 2 will not be voting muh.

@Empking: I'm not understanding your question. Can you rephrase it?
Why do you think people find Muh scummy for parrotting you?
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:47 am

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I FINALLY finished reading the thread! Christ, I thought it would never end! Well, I just skimmed over the last couple of pages, but at least I have some semblance of what's going on now.

I didn't care to be ultra-detailed in my analysis and class is nearing its end. Here's my PbP, however broken and lazily constructed.

BMC – Looks a bit afraid of risk early in day, keeps going back to theory and doesn’t really participate in scumhunting. Becomes vaguely prodding and accusatory and subsequently rises to be one of the more prominent people in the game. Significant town lean.

Charter – Starts out a bit drab, but starts being more of an independent thinker and gives off a pro-town vibe later. Antagonized hiphop as scum, who antagonized his plan slightly. Knee-jerk reaction? Strongly against the Staple lynch and and antagonizes BMC, but doesn’t give of a scum vibe doing so (gut might play a role in this). Difficult to read, tangle of WIFOM.

Crypto – Lead figure in the game. Very prodding and eager for information on everything. Seems arrogant and overconfident at times, might be pro syndrome. Seems to be very protown, but we can't afford to idolize one player. Something seems a bit off in his opinions...I can't put my finger on it. Just a gut feeling. I don’t play meta so I can’t say much. Moderate town lean.

Ethereal – Newbie, contradicts himself, popular target early in the day. Defends staple, who is also suspicious. Scum lean.

Le Chat - Nonentity barring a brief post to page 12, but his few posts have a slight town flavor. Hope he doesn’t get replaced. I like cats.
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Mask man – Scarce, but puts original thought into his posts. Slight town read.

Muh316 – Fence sitting sparse poster, very little content through midday. Complains of not being able to comprehend the game/read (I’ve got to sympathize, catching up with a game is hell, but if you’re able to be active you shouldn’t slip in the first place.) Starts picking up a bit from the end of p13, but jumps on a staple wagon. Slight suspicion. Meta for lurking.

Pomegranate – Posted with mostly covered points. Not quite a total parrot, but I see a few feathers. Contradictory behavior/statements as covered by crypto, but I don’t like meta and I think her V/LA claim was legit. Antagonized and voted by crypto. Still, slight scum lean.

Sando – Another sparse poster, accusatory and original thought. Detected a smidgen of parroting early on, but seems to have disappeared. Antagonizes Serial’s proposed lynch of bmc or affiliates. Slight town lean.

Serial – Accusatory, main adversary of EC. Recently moved in to new apartment, may have dirupted activity. Active lurking. Trying to turn the whole Staple situation on its head (WIFOM anyone?) Slight suspect to do recent conflict with Sando.

Hiphop - some questionable things (such as only bringing up the no-lynch plan when he was voted.), but he looks generally protown. A bit hard to read.

X – Went way the hell out of his way to avoid doing a simple thing, which signifies anxiety at being read; a very viable scumtell. However, he has never played before and a lot of his actions can be chalked up to inexperience. Inactive as of late, may be replaced.

Empking – Replacement. Playing vacuously and neglecting the game as usual. No read.

Staple – Parroting and overdefensive, poor attacks on other players, reasonably accused by BMC , seems like he’s giving up on p13, OMGUS “suspicion” on BMC, replacing out to pin his crap on someone else (after BMC’s note about townies and replacements) …*deep breath* Lots of evidence, strong scum lean.

RayFrost- Replaced CSL. Just chummed around with hiphop midday and dissappeared. Says school is in the way. Nonentity, might be due for a replacement.

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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:13 am

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Sorry I was V/LA gotta catch up soon
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:32 am

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Staple wrote:
@Mod: Can I replace out please?

Sorry guys but I just don't have the time to give this game the attention it deserves. Hope this does not influence future games we play together.
Because he asked, Staple will be replaced. I'll still hold off on the mass cleanup, though, until after the move.
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:38 am

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Thanks Scigatt. And once more, sorry for the inconvenience. Especially to Scigatt who now has to find a replacement.
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:38 am

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WarWound replaces Staple.
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:54 am

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So charter you seem to be pushing ALOT for BMC lynch. Seems pretty scummy to me.
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:54 am

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Kaiveran wrote:I FINALLY finished reading the thread! Christ, I thought it would never end! Well, I just skimmed over the last couple of pages, but at least I have some semblance of what's going on now.

I didn't care to be ultra-detailed in my analysis and class is nearing its end. Here's my PbP, however broken and lazily constructed.

BMC – Looks a bit afraid of risk early in day, keeps going back to theory and doesn’t really participate in scumhunting. Becomes vaguely prodding and accusatory and subsequently rises to be one of the more prominent people in the game. Significant town lean.

Charter – Starts out a bit drab, but starts being more of an independent thinker and gives off a pro-town vibe later. Antagonized hiphop as scum, who antagonized his plan slightly. Knee-jerk reaction? Strongly against the Staple lynch and and antagonizes BMC, but doesn’t give of a scum vibe doing so (gut might play a role in this). Difficult to read, tangle of WIFOM.

Crypto – Lead figure in the game. Very prodding and eager for information on everything. Seems arrogant and overconfident at times, might be pro syndrome. Seems to be very protown, but we can't afford to idolize one player. Something seems a bit off in his opinions...I can't put my finger on it. Just a gut feeling. I don’t play meta so I can’t say much. Moderate town lean.

Ethereal – Newbie, contradicts himself, popular target early in the day. Defends staple, who is also suspicious. Scum lean.

Le Chat - Nonentity barring a brief post to page 12, but his few posts have a slight town flavor. Hope he doesn’t get replaced. I like cats.
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Mask man – Scarce, but puts original thought into his posts. Slight town read.

Muh316 – Fence sitting sparse poster, very little content through midday. Complains of not being able to comprehend the game/read (I’ve got to sympathize, catching up with a game is hell, but if you’re able to be active you shouldn’t slip in the first place.) Starts picking up a bit from the end of p13, but jumps on a staple wagon. Slight suspicion. Meta for lurking.

Pomegranate – Posted with mostly covered points. Not quite a total parrot, but I see a few feathers. Contradictory behavior/statements as covered by crypto, but I don’t like meta and I think her V/LA claim was legit. Antagonized and voted by crypto. Still, slight scum lean.

Sando – Another sparse poster, accusatory and original thought. Detected a smidgen of parroting early on, but seems to have disappeared. Antagonizes Serial’s proposed lynch of bmc or affiliates. Slight town lean.

Serial – Accusatory, main adversary of EC. Recently moved in to new apartment, may have dirupted activity. Active lurking. Trying to turn the whole Staple situation on its head (WIFOM anyone?) Slight suspect to do recent conflict with Sando.

Hiphop - some questionable things (such as only bringing up the no-lynch plan when he was voted.), but he looks generally protown. A bit hard to read.

X – Went way the hell out of his way to avoid doing a simple thing, which signifies anxiety at being read; a very viable scumtell. However, he has never played before and a lot of his actions can be chalked up to inexperience. Inactive as of late, may be replaced.

Empking – Replacement. Playing vacuously and neglecting the game as usual. No read.

Staple – Parroting and overdefensive, poor attacks on other players, reasonably accused by BMC , seems like he’s giving up on p13, OMGUS “suspicion” on BMC, replacing out to pin his crap on someone else (after BMC’s note about townies and replacements) …*deep breath* Lots of evidence, strong scum lean.

RayFrost- Replaced CSL. Just chummed around with hiphop midday and dissappeared. Says school is in the way. Nonentity, might be due for a replacement.

Class is over and I won't be here till late afternoon. bye for now
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I defended Staple?
Please, quote where I defended Staple.
Maybe you're the newbie, given you can't tell the difference between "Defending" and "Not voting for someone."
They're two different things, buddy, in case you didn't know. Also, where did I contradict myself? Are you sure you're just not copying the same exact thing Hiphop has been saying? If I was defending him, I'd be very against lynching him. I just don't want to settle on him right now. Because it sure does seem like it.

On who to vote for, I agree with muh316. I'm not liking how Charter wants to push for a BMC lynch so badly.
Nope. Bigmc lynch. Let's go people. Stop with this staple nonsense.
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:09 am

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All right, guys. In case anyone's confused/wondering, last night I posted on here with an alternate account—for the second game in a row :oops:. I panicked and asked the Scigatt to delete it, then published the same post in what is now post subject 502 (with an expletive tacked on the end). Scigatt kindly deleted the original post as well as a pair of reactionary posts by other players.
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:12 am

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I like Kai's post. I am wondering why she didn't vote for anyone. I think EC is overreacting. I want to write Charter off as town, but he
is
fishy for what I think is iffy scum-hunting logic.

Still up for a Pom/Staple/RF wagon.
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:23 am

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I'd like to give Staple's replacement a chance to speak before anything else. I'm weary of lynching people who just entered the game based on their predecessors behaivor

Unvote: Staple


@Empking: I think it's because muh was doing a lot of lurking and suddenly jumped back into the game with a vote on Staple very soon after I first accused/voted him, before fading off into the background again. Looking back, I'm actually surprised that some people found my vote more oppurtunistic than his.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:23 am

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I don't like how I'm accused of "defending" Staple, that's all, when I didn't. I'm sorry for having a reason not to join a lynch on him, but that isn't defending someone. That's just not wanting to vote for someone.
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:21 am

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/confirm ok i guess im going to have to start reading up :/
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:30 am

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o crap the guy i replaced, everyone wants dead?
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:11 am

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WarWound wrote:o crap the guy i replaced, everyone wants dead?
No.

Are you scum?
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:13 am

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let me check the role pm.. No
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:30 am

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Hi guys, sorry for the absence...
Well, I haven't really been absent at all. But as I said, I wouldn't be posting until after the move, but since it's taking a little longer I might as well drop by real fast. There are a few times I should have spent time here but I was all 'well the move should...' blah blah blah. But I have been skimming through recent posts every so often to see if there was anything regarding me. Sorry if you asked me something or w/e and I didn't respond. From the glances I took there are a few very interesting things happening, and over the weekend I'll get on regardless of if the move happened or not and get my opinions out, do some post-by-posts, yada yada.
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