Mafia 33: Checkmate - Game over!

[Save The Dragons]

Unvote

[Crola]

Fine, I'm the Queen, Mafia wins. Game over, town lost.

[Pie_is_good]

Wrong. I'm the queen.

(I'm not voting Crola yet, as I think this warrants discussion).

[BabyJesus]

Interesting....

So back to our red group...

One scum, One Queen

Crola
Pie_is_good

5 scum, 2 gg's

Fuldu
Lt. Origen
PookyTheMagicalBear
rolandofthewhite
Save the Dragons
Yaw
BabyJesus

I wonder if there is any benefit in letting the real queen vig the other one...and lyncing another out of the red group?

If the king would claim, and be indisputed, we would have some guaranteed scum for the real queen to vig...

NOT THE KING.

[rolandofthewhite]

BabyJesus, why are you completely ignoring the fact that we have 1 scum sitting right in front of us?

Vote: Crola

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I think that we should lynch one of them, unless the real queen does agree to vig the other one. I'm going to try to read over Crola and Pie's past posts and see if I can glean anything from those.

[Yaw]

Enough pointing out targets for the scum with roleclaims. We know for certain Crola or Pie is scum. Just lynch one. That's all we have to do today -- lynch scum.

[BabyJesus]

BabyJesus, why are you completely ignoring the fact that we have 1 scum sitting right in front of us?

Vote: Crola

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I think that we should lynch one of them, unless the real queen does agree to vig the other one. I'm going to try to read over Crola and Pie's past posts and see if I can glean anything from those.

not ignoring....I didn't unvote, and I've been on him all day. I was just speculating if there is benefit in not taking the chance on lynching the queen, since whicever one is faking WILL die tonight.

That said, I don't believe Crola for a second. Of course, you are probably scum too. Ah well.

[rolandofthewhite]

We need a votecount on this page.

[Lt. Origen]

I'm inclined to believe Pie in this case. Sorry I don't have time to go into more detail, but I'm pretty much on my way out the door.

Vote: Crola

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[Pie_is_good]

By my count, Crola is now lynched.

Vote: Crola

(and yes, I am the real queen).

King, I need protection. Rook, please Roleblock Yaw.

[rolandofthewhite]

Why Yaw?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

um wouldn't the scum then not choose to kill Yaw?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean use Yaw to kill

[Pie_is_good]

assuming 4 mafia groups, there's a 25% chance a block on Yaw will save a kill.
If you block randomly, there's a 3/7 chance the block will save a kill, and a 1/7 chance that the block will lose the game.

...I don't see better odds for saving 1 kill, which is potentially on a scum, being worth the risk. The end decision is the rook's, though.

[Yaw]

See, this is silly and amusing. What's 3/7? 42%. So if you block randomly, there's a 42% chance it'll stop a kill. Those are pretty good odds, no? Way more than the 25% chance you just pulled out of your ass without any logic. Did you think nobody would do the math?

Besides, you're a vig. If you actually thought I was scum, wouldn't it be better to just night kill me? Or anyone else you thought was scum? 42% chance, remember.

[BabyJesus]

See, this is silly and amusing. What's 3/7? 42%. So if you block randomly, there's a 42% chance it'll stop a kill. Those are pretty good odds, no? Way more than the 25% chance you just pulled out of your ass without any logic. Did you think nobody would do the math?

Besides, you're a vig. If you actually thought I was scum, wouldn't it be better to just night kill me? Or anyone else you thought was scum? 42% chance, remember.

actually there is a 5/6 chance you are knight or bishop. I'm guessing since Pie wants you roleblocked, he planning on vigging another in the 5/6 group. (

Fuldu, Lt. Origen, PookyTheMagicalBear, rolandofthewhite, Save the Dragons, Yaw

)

[Pie_is_good]

Yaw, mostly because I failed a vigkill on you earlier (meaning you were saved by our king, or have some interesting special protection)

...I'm mostly just worried about the Rook blocking the King. With better saving odds comes higher risk.

I'm planning on vigging Yaw tonight.

There's a 100% chance Yaw is knight or bishop. I have him investigated as guilty.

[Yaw]

And yet you never once tried to get me lynched? I'm calling bullshit.

[BabyJesus]

And yet you never once tried to get me lynched? I'm calling bullshit.

you think he's lying about being queen? Well, if you don't get vigged tonight, you may be right.

[Yaw]

I think he's lying about the investigation.

[BabyJesus]

I think he's lying about the investigation.

well, if you are the king, you better speak up so you don't get vigged. If not the king, then you are scum, so who cares if hes lying, you are knight or bishop and are getting vigged.

[Fuldu]

See, this is silly and amusing. What's 3/7? 42%. So if you block randomly, there's a 42% chance it'll stop a kill. Those are pretty good odds, no? Way more than the 25% chance you just pulled out of your ass without any logic. Did you think nobody would do the math?

Besides, you're a vig. If you actually thought I was scum, wouldn't it be better to just night kill me? Or anyone else you thought was scum? 42% chance, remember.

actually there is a 5/6 chance you are knight or bishop. I'm guessing since Pie wants you roleblocked, he planning on vigging another in the 5/6 group. (

Fuldu, Lt. Origen, PookyTheMagicalBear, rolandofthewhite, Save the Dragons, Yaw

)

I love how BJ has not so subtly gone from 5/7 with a list that includes himself to 5/6 with a list that doesn't include him. We know you're claiming rook, BJ, but that doesn't make it true.

[Pie_is_good]

Yaw, I didn't try to get you lynched 'cause I figured I'd vig you later. It would just reveal myself as queen.

N1: Investigate IS (innocent), vig nobody.
N2: Investigate Yaw (guilty), vig Coron
N3: Investigate SpeedyKQ (guilty), vig Yaw (failed)
N4: Investigate (*withholding results*), vig SpeedyKQ

...so, I haven't had the chance to vig you.

[BabyJesus]

do we have a lynch??

[Yaw]

I find that unlikely, judging by the number of kills we've seen so far. Don't have the chance to really go through them in depth at the moment, though.

And yes, I think we have a lynch. I hope we haven't been abandoned.