Mini 859 - Cleansing of Falls Church - Over

don_johnson · Post Post #625 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:06 am

Looker wrote:DJ, why did you have to replace BrotherNature? Couldn't you have replaced as town? I like playing games with you

because it was the slot available. i did replace as town. i like playing games with you too.

now quit distracting me.

Looker · Post Post #626 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:03 pm

Why? All I have to do is tie you up for say, about 2 more weeks...

Kreriov · Post Post #627 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:54 am

Vote Count

BigBear (1) - EtherealCookie

don_johnson (4)

- ZazieR Shrinehme Peabody Looker
ConfidAnon (3) - Sanjay DeathRowKitty BigBear
DeathRowKitty (2) - ConfidAnon don_johnson
EtherealCookie (1) - nook

Not voting: Knight of Cydonia

With 12 alive is takes 7 to lynch.

Looking for replacements for nook and Peabody

Please ask friends if they would like to replace in.

DEADLINE SET: 10 Nov 2009 (Tues) @ 3pm EST

BigBear · Post Post #628 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:50 am

wait... what's the case on DJ at the moment?

DeathRowKitty · Post Post #629 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:09 am

More or less the same as the case on BN. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of his recent votes (no, this isn't just OMGUS), but it's more of a vibe than anything else.

DeathRowKitty · Post Post #630 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:09 am

EBWOP: recent posts

don_johnson · Post Post #631 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:23 am

BigBear wrote:wait... what's the case on DJ at the moment?

^^ good question. zazie laid out some issues, but unfortunately i don't think i can address them without crawling inside brothernatures head. though it seems as though there would be plenty of room, i just don't think its going to happen.

my clinicals just started and my time is dwindling fast. i should be able to keep up, but the initial catch up may be stalled a bit.

drk: it is omgus. there is nothing wrong with my recent votes. i think i fleshed out my reasons nicely. you seem overly concerned for someone at L-6. duly noted.

DeathRowKitty · Post Post #632 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:55 am

drk: it is omgus. there is nothing wrong with my recent votes.

Recent

posts

. As I said, it's more of a vibe than anything and has little to do with content. Something's just...different from when you replaced into Internal Struggle Mafia as town.

don_johnson · Post Post #633 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:19 am

DeathRowKitty wrote:
drk: it is omgus. there is nothing wrong with my recent votes.
Recent
posts
. As I said, it's more of a vibe than anything and has little to do with content. Something's just...different from when you replaced into Internal Struggle Mafia as town.

recent posts, recent votes. tomatoe, tomata.

i make a concerted effort to avoid consistency. all my games are different. don't call meta if you're not going to back it up. how many times did you rewrite the above post to decide on how to word your suspicions? "something's just different" is a broad and incohesive net to cast.

DeathRowKitty · Post Post #634 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:40 am

So....I was right when I said something was different. I don't know what was different, but if you do really make a "concerted effort to avoid consitency," I don't really see how it matters what was actually different.

And no, I didn't rewrite the above post at all. You're seeing the original text.

ZazieR · Post Post #635 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:03 am

Knight of Cydonia wrote:I believe what ZazieR is, rather unsubtly, suggesting is that only scum don't suspect anyone, and that if you don't suspect anyone, you must be doing absolutely nothing during the day, and waiting for night. Which is a damn good point,

Basically, this. You're stating that you want those who suspect you to ask questions as you have nothing to say. Nobody is doing so.
You've also stated that you don't suspect anyone, which is why you're not asking questions.
So if you don't have questions to answer and won't ask questions yourself, what will you do?

ZazieR · Post Post #636 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:05 am

BigBear wrote:wait... what's the case on DJ at the moment?

He replaced BN. So the case from me against him is the same as the case from me against BN, which was:

ZazieR wrote:
Sanjay wrote:Zazie, could you expound a bit on why you voted for brothernature?
-The observing, while not discussing.
-Talking when being called out.
-Vote against Nook.
-Dodging my questions.
-The observations regarding EC
-And the general active lurking when posting.

Kreriov · Post Post #637 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:56 am

Vote Count

BigBear (1) - EtherealCookie

don_johnson (4)

- ZazieR Shrinehme Peabody Looker
ConfidAnon (3) - Sanjay DeathRowKitty BigBear
DeathRowKitty (2) - ConfidAnon don_johnson
EtherealCookie (1) - nook

Not voting: Knight of Cydonia

With 12 alive is takes 7 to lynch.

Looking for replacements for nook and Peabody

Please ask friends if they would like to replace in.

DEADLINE SET: 10 Nov 2009 (Tues) @ 3pm EST

BigBear · Post Post #638 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:29 am

ZazieR wrote:
BigBear wrote:wait... what's the case on DJ at the moment?
He replaced BN. So the case from me against him is the same as the case from me against BN, which was:
ZazieR wrote:
Sanjay wrote:Zazie, could you expound a bit on why you voted for brothernature?
-The observing, while not discussing.
-Talking when being called out.
-Vote against Nook.
-Dodging my questions.
-The observations regarding EC
-And the general active lurking when posting.

I guess I just don't know how I feel about that though. That seems to fit with his play style. (aside from the vote about nook, and the obsv regarding EC.) He was rather scummy in the last game too, and we should have lynched him for some of the same stuff that's listed here.

Deadline is still 10 days away, why don't we hold off for the moment, and look else where.

unvote:
vote: nook

-jester speculation still doesn't sit well with me.

Knight of Cydonia · Post Post #639 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:14 pm

Uhm, correct me if I'm wrong, BigBear, and this is just what I got from my readthrough, but... didn't DRK start the Jester speculation? Because from what I read, DRK made a comment alluding to 3rd parties, then later clarified he was thinking of Jesters when making that comment. So... uhm... explain?

BigBear · Post Post #640 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:30 pm

Knight of Cydonia wrote:Uhm, correct me if I'm wrong, BigBear, and this is just what I got from my readthrough, but... didn't DRK start the Jester speculation? Because from what I read, DRK made a comment alluding to 3rd parties, then later clarified he was thinking of Jesters when making that comment. So... uhm... explain?

I don't recall him clarifying that he was specifically talking about jesters, I just remember Confid and DRK fighting for several pages to find out who actually started it. I didn't really think that DRK was implying it at the time, although, if he was, then yea, it's obviously scummy. Why I figured that Nook really brought up the jester speculation, is because his remarks didn't seem to connect (at least at first glance), or didn't seem to come from directly from DRK's comment.

If you could show me where DRK said that he was eluding to a jester, that would be helpful.

Knight of Cydonia · Post Post #641 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:21 pm

DeathRowKitty wrote:Just so everyone knows, that's L-2.

@IK
Can you think of any non-mafia motivations for EC's actions? I'm just looking for a yes or a no (I asked you specifically because your experience playing with me makes you more likely to figure out what I'm implying).

then, when nook mentioned a Jester by name, DRK said:

DeathRowKitty wrote:
nook wrote: I have a wild speculation that he's a Jester out to get lynched as quickly as possible.
That's what I was trying to suggest to IK.

@IK
I thought you might pick up on the fact that I said "non-mafia motivations," when I normally use "scum" almost exclusively to refer to the mafia. By non-mafia, I was trying to imply third party (perhaps one that wanted to be lynched or accumlate votes).

So DRK here admits he was trying to stir up Jester speculation.
bada-bing.

BigBear · Post Post #642 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:25 pm

Good call, I missed that connection.

Unvote:
Vote: DeathRowKitty

Knight of Cydonia · Post Post #643 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:06 pm

don_johnson always brings in his "I always play differently to avoid generating a meta" crap when he's town, from my experience, interestingly.
So I think, what with the DRK jester-crap, for now, I will

Vote: DeathRowKitty

also.
Feel free to plead your case.

DeathRowKitty · Post Post #644 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:23 pm

@BB and KoC
Before I type up a possibly unnecessary response, have you actually read the argument between me and CA or did you just skim it? (If you just skimmed it, read through it.)

BigBear · Post Post #645 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:25 pm

I read it.

Knight of Cydonia · Post Post #646 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:44 pm

Actual evidence > that argument, which I did indeed read.

Sanjay · Post Post #647 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:08 pm

Guess you gotta type up that response, DRK.

BigBear · Post Post #648 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:10 pm

Sanjay wrote:Guess you gotta type up that response, DRK.

Any input from you on the matter?

Sanjay · Post Post #649 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:56 pm

Well, as I recall, the first time the issue came up I thought the way ConfidAnon pursued the case was kind of weird and DRK didn't respond in the most townish way.

I don't know what I think of the original evidence. I didn't think it was that scummy.

I guess I need to look at it again. I've kind of been ignoring the thread for a little bit waiting for the replacements to catch up and get going with their opinions. Since that has started to happen I guess I can stop.