Mafia 102: No-Frills Game Thread(Town wins!)

[Kaiveran]

Hi guys, still here.

I only had time to skim through the last page and a half, but I still think the bigmc wagon is mostly bollocks. He just doesn't seem very scummy to me and we have a much bigger chance of hitting scum with Pomegranate. My vote stands barring any radical paradigm shift.

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Super Accurate* Vote Count(as of post 675):

malpascp - 1(mask man)
crypto - 1(Ojanen)
muh316 - 2(Sando, Pomegranate)
bigmc109 - 5(WarWound, Empking, SerialClergyman, malpascp, Pyromaniac)
Pomegranate - 4(Kaiveran, crypto, hiphop, charter)
SerialClergyman - 1(muh316)

Not Voting:bigmc109, Trumpet of Doom

It takes 9 to lynch, 6 at deadline.

*Not guaranteed to be accurate.

[charter]

Nah, too many pro-bigmc are anti-Pom. I'm sticking with the coolest wagon of the day to see if deadline gees up the rest of the people.

I missed this, do you have a quick list of them off the top of your head?

Doing my my own work, I see that crypto and Kaiveran fall in to this category.

To be honest, I think Pom is actually scummier, but bigmc is a good lynch. I'm going to try for Pom (or hiphop even) but will definitely settle for bigmc.

[Pomegranate]

As deadline is coming, I would be up for a bigmac lunch, but I do think muh is scummier. WW hasn't done anything either; votes just kinda slid off of him. But as we need some semblance of a consensus, I'll

Vote: Bigmac

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Probably I'll be accused of being scum, and changing from buddying to voting quickly to keep with the town. But I didn't buddy. I did agreed with him once or twice, but I don't see how it was buddying.

[charter]

Do you think bigmc is scum? If yes, why?

[Pomegranate]

Do you think bigmc is scum? If yes, why?

Seems likely. It doesn't seem like we'll be getting a lynch on WW or muh today, so he's next in line. I reread SC's case on Bigmac, and found it convincing. For instance, like the way he tunneled a newbie as scum, which he did in this game too. Of the lynches that seem probable, his is the best.

[crypto]

Pom-Pom may as well have just claimed scum. She takes sides with BMC multiple times and I call her out on it, and then she votes for BMC despite admitting she thinks Muh is scummier. Plus she doesn't add to the case on BMC at all whatsoever. If she flips scum, she's muddying the waters with regard to being buddies with BMC or Muh.

Preview update: Okay, so her reason is that SC's case is convincing. So still no input of her own. Moreover, SC's case was not convincing.

Coincidentally, before her vote she was tied with BMC for the most votes. Her vote put BMC ahead by one. Hmm. Wonder what the motive for that gem is . . .

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Doing my my own work, I see that crypto and Kaiveran fall in to this category.

I'm pretty sure my view of BMC has gone from rock-solid town to potential scum to neutral. He's just a damn stupid choice for a lynch when we have Pomegranate or Staple/WarWound, or even Muh for that matter.

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Hiphop, Staple is still hugely suspicious, from my point of view at least. So it'd make sense that WarWound-newb-scum comes in, asks if people still want to get him lynched, then vanishes as conversation continues to focus on BMC, Pom, and Muh. That's assuming his posts in the other game are pro-town (by his own standards at least) and not purely defenses or active lurking or whatever.

[charter]

That sounds a lot like what you did. You voted staple for the exact same thing as bigmc, yes?

[charter]

That sounds a lot like what you did. You voted staple for the exact same thing as bigmc, yes?

This was directed to Pom.

[Scigatt]

Coincidentally, before her vote she was tied with BMC for the most votes. Her vote put BMC ahead by one. Hmm. Wonder what the motive for that gem is . . .

Am I missing something in the votecount?

[crypto]

Mod:

No, I'm mathematically challenged.

[crypto]

So scrap that point I made, but the concept that she was pushing the stuck-in-a-rut BMC wagon when hers was growing is still there.

[Pyromaniac]

Bigmc seems to be setting up mislynches and attempting to lynch staple, who seemed more like n00b town. Though I'm not sure about WW.

[Pomegranate]

WW hasn't done anything. Staple acted scummy.

[Pyromaniac]

No. Staple acted anti-town. Anti-town=/=scummy.

[Pomegranate]

I found it scummy, not anti-town.

[charter]

Let's lynch Pom.

[bigmc109]

As deadline is coming, I would be up for a bigmac lunch, but I do think muh is scummier. WW hasn't done anything either; votes just kinda slid off of him. But as we need some semblance of a consensus, I'll

Vote: Bigmac

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Probably I'll be accused of being scum, and changing from buddying to voting quickly to keep with the town. But I didn't buddy. I did agreed with him once or twice, but I don't see how it was buddying.

Agreeing with me once or twice and then changing your vote to me is not a good reason to accuse you of being scum. But changing your vote to me when I'm (for all intents and purposes) at L-1 while offering zero explanation is suspicous. Doing it while claiming you think two (or one, I can't tell) people are scummier is just ridiculous. All you've basically said is that we need a lynch today, so you might as well vote the person with the most votes. Again, this is ridiculous.

Vote: Pom

. A pro-town player doesn't cast a (essentially) deciding vote on someone when they aren't even convinced he's scum. Scum players cast a deciding vote when they're sure someone is town.

[bigmc109]

malpascp: Why did you vote me? Why am I a better lynch than Pom and muh?

[SerialClergyman]

Sorry for not getting back to you charter, was busy in a few games.

I agree about Pom, but I'm reading the currents and I don't like the deflection.

[charter]

What do you make of Pom's vote for bigmc, serial?

[WarWound]

I dont want to read the whole thread then get my ass lynched, if you still want to lynch me do it now and do not waste my time, thats why i havent been posting

[SerialClergyman]

Self-preservation, which is normally a scumtell but this close to a deadline it's more null. I don't know, to be honest.

[WarWound]

unvote vote pom

[SerialClergyman]

facepalm

I hope I haven't been wrong all along ><

[crypto]

Blindly voting is profoundly scummy.