Mini 852- Crayola Catastrophe Game Over (Post 1158)

[ChiboSempai]

Leaving work now, it's quite a commute. I'll be home in like 3 hours at 7:30pm EST.

If the day isn't over then I'll post more.

[Pomegranate]

I will claim: I am the doc. Last night I protected EK. There was only the Yankee kill, which leads me to believe that scum targeted her last night. So I think she's town. I guess the mafia must be really scared of her, as they tried to kill her twice (N1 she replaced in for Josh Lyman). I favor a Chibo lynch.

[elvis_knits]

It would totally make sense for you to lie about that, or to actually have done it.

:/

unvote

I have to think about this.

[Jahudo]

Pome's claim makes sense that she would target e_k after agreeing with her in day 2. Claiming doc would be a bold thing for scum to do, but let's see if anyone can counter-claim. I can't.

At this point I want to plead for a couple days of extension and a popcorn massclaim.

If we have a 3-person mafia, we're in MYLO and an outed doc is basically saying we're in LYLO. Even if we're in a 2-person mafia, enough power roles have been outed that I think outing everybody won't change scum's NK decisions much.

@MOD: Can we have a couple days of extension before deadline please?

[SocioPath]

they tried to kill her twice (N1 she replaced in for Josh Lyman).

I don't understand this part.

[Jahudo]

Oh yeah.
@Pome: Who did you target Night 1?

[Battousai]

I will grant Deadline of 3 days, but only if it is unanimous. Everyone must say vote: Deadline Extension

[elvis_knits]

That's so true. Pome who did you target N1?

Vote: deadline extension!

[elvis_knits]

they tried to kill her twice (N1 she replaced in for Josh Lyman).

I don't understand this part.

I originally replaced Manzcar (who was dark blue I think) at the end of Day1. I posted like one time before snowbunny hammered. Before Day 2 started, Mod asked me to replace Josh Lyman since Manzcar was being killed that night.

I just remembered something else. If yankee is a 1-shot vig, that means budja decided not to use his shot N1, leaving it for his replacement, yankee N2. (Do people actually ever wait to use a 1-shot ability? I dunno, but I would be using it N1). And if yankee is the vig, it means zazie was double targetted or I was the NK, protected by Pome. This is getting complicated.

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: Deadline Extension

I want to do this before I forget.

[SocioPath]

Vote: Deadline Extension

they tried to kill her twice (N1 she replaced in for Josh Lyman).

I don't understand this part.

I originally replaced Manzcar (who was dark blue I think) at the end of Day1. I posted like one time before snowbunny hammered. Before Day 2 started, Mod asked me to replace Josh Lyman since Manzcar was being killed that night.

That makes sense I suppose.

I just remembered something else. If yankee is a 1-shot vig, that means budja decided not to use his shot N1, leaving it for his replacement, yankee N2. (Do people actually ever wait to use a 1-shot ability? I dunno, but I would be using it N1). And if yankee is the vig, it means zazie was double targetted or I was the NK, protected by Pome. This is getting complicated.

Yeah, I noted that a ways back.

Yankee calling me too townie, and then claiming ONE SHOT Vig on DAY THREE.
Budja would have used it, he had suspects.
Vig claim seems like scum flailing, although premature.

It was in my 'everyone is being too damn scummy' post.

[ChiboSempai]

I definitely want an extension, but I don't know if three more full days is needed. We're 24 hours away at this point. Even like one more day would help, two days tops. Three days just seems a little excessive.

But either way, yea I do want some kind of extension.

I need to read into Pome's past posts knowing his role now before I post my thoughts on it.

[elvis_knits]

I made up this little cheat sheet because I realized I was forgetting stuff, like forgetting to ask what Pome's N1 choice was, and forgetting that Yankee/budja didn't use his 1-shot on N1.

I hope it helps us think through everything. I'm going to look at it and think myself.

1) Shanba _{Snow_Bunny}lynched D2 - vanilla

2) SocioPath

3) Pomegranate- claimed doc

4) Kirbyoshi

5) Yankee _Budja- claimed 1-shot vig

6) ChiboSempai- claimed paranoid or insane cop

7) semioldguy - lynched D1 - jester

8) Jahudo_GreenDude

9) Manzcar (fleetingly replaced by elvis)killed N1 - vanilla

10) Nachomamma8

11) ZazieR _chamberkilled N2 - vanilla

12) elvis_knits _{Josh Lyman}

So far, I'm wondering what everyone thinks of Jahudo. He seems town. Anyone feel differently?

I'm really feeling sketchy about yankee because I don't understand waiting on the 1-shot, plus I just generally haven't liked him.

I'm also still feeling sketchy about chibo. His latest post, he didn't vote: deadline extension, and said how 3 days is too much?? If it's too much we don't need to use it. wtf...

[Jahudo]

Vote: Deadline Extension

I'd also like to hear from everyone if a popcorn massclaim is a good idea at this point, or why it would be best to wait until tomorrow at the earliest.

[Pomegranate]

Vote: Deadline Extension

I protected Kirby N1.

[Yankee]

Vote: Deadline Extension

Interesting claim, i was actually thinking to myself earlier when someone asked pome to claim "she is probably gonna claim doctor or something...." Just a funny tidbit of what i thought to myself.

Anyways, i dont have an explanation of why Budja didnt use his 1 shot, but it could have been either that he wasnt confident enough in his suspects or because he was inactive/busy (hence why he replaced out). He probably knew he was going to replace out and decided to save it for his replacement to put to better use (whoops...)

Anyways, i am still wary of Pome and my vote will stay on her. With all these claims i am getting sceptical about who is telling the truth and who is lying to us and protecting others at the same time. I mean we have a claimed doctor protecting another person and a claimed cop protecting someone. ugh.

So if this is all true, for instance, then that means

Sociopath - unknown
Pomegranate - doctor
Kirby - town
Yankee - 1 shot vig
Chibo - Cop
Jahudo - unknown
Nachomamma - town

This means the only 2 people that are unknown are Socio (someone who has been thought of as pro-town almost all game) and Jahudo (whose former player was very suspicious, but the replacement seems very pro-town).

[Yankee]

Also, my suggestion would be that tonight Pomegranate Protect Chibo, and Chibo investigate one of the unknowns. True that Pome will die, but we will be better off as a town i believe.

[Yankee]

Oops, i made a mistake in my first post in this triple post. First of all i forgot to add EK to the list because i didnt see his name on that list a few posts above. Secondly, i switched EK and Kirby's town/unknown reads. So we have 3 unknowns, Kirby, Socio, and Jahudo. And since i was going off flawed information just a minute ago, i feel it safe to make this decision,

Unvote, Vote: Kirby

Out of the three unknowns he has been the most suspicious in my eyes. Also fixed for color effect in this post....

[elvis_knits]

Vote Chibo

ATLEAST until he actually votes for the extension, not just says he's in favor while not voting for it and saying 3-day extensions is too much (!).

Also, Yankee, you didn't bold your unvote or vote, so your vote is probably still on Pome.

[Nachomamma8]

Popcorn massclaim is a good idea, and I'll volunteer for first if we have a bit more approval for it.

Pome's doc claim makes a lot of sense. In fact, after reading Twilight Mafia, I iso'ed her and thought to myself "she must be the doctor...". Pome's claim makes Chibo's claim more reasonable,, and also makes it seem more likely he's insane.

More coming later, but my brain hurts from all the new claims.

[elvis_knits]

How does Pome's claim make Chibo's more reasonable?

Is it just that she's claiming a power role that's actually helpful to town, starting to balance out all the many

unhelpful

power roles we seem to have?

[Yankee]

Thanks for pointing that out EK, just a slipup on my part. Also, noone talks about my claim anymore I feel so ignored..... (that is a joke fyi)

Unvote, Vote: Kirby

[Jahudo]

Anyways, i am still wary of Pome and my vote will stay on her.

What specifically made you drop your Pome vote?

Also, I could see a player wait to use a 1-shot vig kill. Sometimes I get so confident on a player read that I wish I had a vig kill to use, but other times I'm not sure. So I can believe that part.

[Nachomamma8]

Also, Yankee? Please bold your vote for the Deadline Extension.

EK, I see it like this. Jester and Not Sane cop are detrimental to town, no? Doctor is obviously helpful to town, and One-Shot Vig is a bit swingy, but usually town-harming. Based on the confirmed power roles we have right now, it would make sense to have an insane cop/doctor combo. Otherwise, it just wouldn't seem balanced.

[ChiboSempai]

Vote Time Extension

It seems everyone wants it :/

True though, it can still end early from a lynch. I doubt all of the days will be used up though.

EK, why would u vote me just cause I thought 3 days was a lot for an extension -_-
That makes no sense at all...

Can someone please remind me whcih post Yankee claimed 1 shot vig?