Stars Aligned - GAME OVER

[Magua]

Magua, it is interesting that the two reasons you have put forth to not lynch someone voting No Lynch requires the existence of 2 anti-town factions and you have already stated that you don't believe that there are 2 anti-town factions left.

My reasons for not voting Datadanne do not require there to be only one antitown faction. I even address this *IN THE POST*.

Datadanne cannot be cult (cult cannot murder).
If Datadanne robs a grave every other night, Datadanne cannot win as traitor/murderer.
If Datadanne doesn't rob a grave every other night, it will be obvious and Datadanne will be lynched.
In the meantime, any other antitown faction has incentive to nightkill Datadanne.

Are you purposefully misrepresenting what you read, or is it just accidental?

[SlySly]

Magua, there is no misrep:

You said you believe what Koc said, which means you believe there are cult left. You have said you believe there is only 1 anti-town faction left which means since you believe there is cult left, you must believe there are no murders left.

Your reasons for not voting the No Lyncher were:
1. No Lyncher is former cult turned murderer and the remaining cult would want to kill that some one. That = 2 factions.
2. No Lyncher is a murderer. You already stated you believe there are cult left. That = 2 factions.

Insanity Infraction

We'll see what happens tonight. If it becomes clear there are 2 factions remaining, I may be asking you about semi again.

What is your insanity count?

[Sajin]

While I cannot defend Magua's stances as I as well find them somewhat hypocritical, I do like his logic in 1825.

He murdered- not cult

He grave robs every other day- cannot win as murderer.

Either he wins as town or loses as murderer. Win/win?

@Slysly- Do you have a problem with this logic at all?

[SlySly]

@Slysly- Do you have a problem with this logic at all?

Not at all, my focus is on the hypocrisy.

[Magua]

Magua, there is no misrep:

You said you believe what Koc said, which means you believe there are cult left. You have said you believe there is only 1 anti-town faction left which means since you believe there is cult left, you must believe there are no murders left.

Correct. I believe there are no murderers left. *NOWHERE* did I state I believed there are murderers left. Go quote me. I'll wait.

Your reasons for not voting the No Lyncher were:
1. No Lyncher is former cult turned murderer and the remaining cult would want to kill that some one. That = 2 factions.
2. No Lyncher is a murderer. You already stated you believe there are cult left. That = 2 factions.

Again, go, quote me. Those are the *worst case* scenarios where Datadanne is antitown. If there is no benefit in lynching Datadanne in the worst case scenario, it follows there is no benefit to lynching in a non-worst-case scenario.

I'll go slowly:

Possible scenarios:
1) Datadanne is an investigator. Bad lynch.
2) Datadanne is a traitor. Good lynch, but cult would have to kill anyways. Lack of Datadanne dying makes this unlikely.
3) Datadanne is a murderer. Good lynch, but as long as there's a graverob every other day, Datadanne can't win. In the meantime, any other murderer would have to kill Datadanne to win.

In the case of #1, we don't want to lynch Datadanne. In the case of #2 and #3, Datadanne cannot win as long as there is a graverob every other night, *and* can serve to soak up an antitown nightkill.

Still with me? Please take the time to reread what I said so you don't misrepresent it *again*.

So.

There is *no* scenario in which a Datadanne lynch is a good idea today. I'd go into the theoreticals about why this is true, but you would mistake them for what I believe again.

I espoused this logic when I said that Datadanne should kill DeathNote d2, and I still stand by it.

[Magua]

While I cannot defend Magua's stances as I as well find them somewhat hypocritical, I do like his logic in 1825.

Show me the hypocrisy.

[SlySly]

Still with me? Please take the time to reread what I said so you don't misrepresent it *again*.

I got it the first time.

Show me the hypocrisy.

The hypocrisy was presenting scenarios where a murderer still exists. You showed those scenarios in your reasoning for not supporting the vote of the No Lyncher.

Insanity Infraction

Who are you going to vote for? Do you find it interesting that your scumbuddy suddenly went V/LA here at the deadling without placing a vote?

[SlySly]

I do find it interesting the CSL still hasn't posted his promised findings. I think he is just being a VI, but his promise to withhold his findings from the town was as scummy as it gets.

Semi's V/LA reeks of scumminess, along with my other previously stated reasons.

Chaco's reasonless wagon jump reeks of scumminess.

Magua's resistance to vote reeks of scuminess, along with my other previously stated reasons.

Voting for a No Lynch reeks of murderer trying to fly under the radar.

If CSL wasn't already a shoe in, I would change my vote to him.

Insanity Infraction

[Sajin]

@magua- If you think there is only 2 factions then you must assume data is town. Whereas your logic points out he could possibly not be and plans for him possibly being a murderer.

This implies you are not sure there is only 2 factions and could possibly have a murderer. You have stated you think there are no murders left.

Its somewhat hypocritical but I do not find you scummy for this reason.

I agree with the above plan.

Also for the record I think data is likely a murderer who saw what happened when dramonic did not rob a grave. I expect him to try and get out of grave robbing in the future. The high insanity count and perma bloody makes him immune to investigations.

[Chaco]

Semi, am I considered scum due to my insanity count? Because in which case that can be easily checked, as you know.

[Percy]

"Look, you don't want me dead, alright? If you kill me, I won't tell you what I'm thinking!"

Those gathered are not inclined to take

CSL

up on this deal. With hearts that grow colder each day, he is swiftly dispatched, pushed into the waiting hole to be swallowed.

Night falls, and the silence clashes in your ears. No drums, no violin, and somehow this is more disquieting than the cacophonous nights you have grown accustomed to.

Through the hole in the ground, you begin to hear a gurgling noise; the sounds of bubbling, of heat and of pain. The room grows brighter, light poring out of the hole.

The first thing that emerges is

CSL

's head, borne by a torrent of white-hot molten metal, somehow preserved from its effects.

You don't stay long enough to find out if you would be so preserved. You find the stairs you know must be somewhere, and begin your ascent.

CSL

is lynched.

His Insanity Count was

1

.

Night 4 has begun

.

You have until

Midday on Tuesday the 3rd of November AEST (9pm Monday 2nd site time)

to submit your night actions.

Cultists may converse in their quicktopic until the thread is unlocked.

Final Vote Count

CSL - 6 (Sarag, Nachomamma8, Pablo Molinero, Furpants_Tom, Chaco, ZykeZero)

Looker - 2 (ryan2754, Sajin)
semioldguy - 2 (Kise, SlySly)
No Lynch - 1 (Datadanne)

Not Voting - 4 (Looker, Magua, semioldguy, CSL)

SlySly received an Insanity Infraction for 1832.

ZykeZero received an Insanity Infraction for 1808.

[Percy]

There will be a 12 hour delay in the start of the Fifth Day. Apologies all.

[Percy]

The molten metal follows you, surging with terrifying speed, undulating in horrible and intricate ways that defy all intuition.

Somehow, when dawn is approaching, you burst from the stairs and into a magnificent hall. The twisted pillars holding up the roof vanish in the distance.

The walls are painted with the most vivid images you have ever seen. Images of unnatural couplings to make the most seasoned courtesan blush - men, women and all manner of unnatural sea creatures engaged in dark and evil orgiastic worship of the being who is emerging under your very feet.

The ghost of

CSL

is waiting for you, standing over the mutilated body of

Furpants_Tom

. He gives his thanks to the Great Old Ones before evaporating in a fine red mist.

The room is so vast that there is no echo, as though your voice barely leaves your lips before being lost in this vast cavern.

You make your way around the wall until you find a door - simple, wooden, unadorned. You tentatively open it.

Awe. Terror. Slam it shut slam it shut slam it shut!

You are engulfed by the enormity of the danger you are in. This is a door that leads to no place that humans were ever meant to venture. The strange marking around it are as incomprehensible as they are dangerous and very, very old.

One of you will walk through that door at sundown.

CSL was a

Cultist

.

Furpants_Tom, destroyed by an unspeakable being on the Fourth Night,

Insanity Count: 0

.

Day 5 had begun.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

Midnight on Wednesday the 17th of October AEST (9am Tuesday site time).

Please read your Night Action Result PM before posting.

Apologies for the delay. Days will be shorter now - 2 weeks per in-game Day. I will extend deadlines at the request of players if the activity is satisfactory.

[Sarag]

Give up now, scum. *pew pew*

I did not hear noise last night.

Tom is pretty much confirmed town, likely only with forensic tools so it's probably not worth robbing his grave.

It is safe to assume his results of no blood on Pablo and ZykeZero are correct, for what they're worth.

[Looker]

No mention of noise. I have a resuscitation kit.

[Sajin]

Excellent. This is probably auto win at this point.

No noise, my insanity count is still the same.

Did anyone protect anyone last night?

[ryan2754]

No noise here.
I researched Pablo and he had no more insanities than I had.
I had one when I researched, so it means he either has one or zero.
Took up Compulsion as my second insanity, since I more than likely am not killing anytime soon.

*TWITCHES*

[SlySly]

No noise. Insanity count still 1.

[semioldguy]

I'm back.

Am now clean and heard no noise last night. Still at insanity of two.

[Pablo Molinero]

No Noise, still 0 insanities, still bloody from saving semi.

[Datadanne]

God F-Ing damnit, I thought i had already sent in my action o.o
BUT....
I found scum.

Who it is you say, SLYSLY i say.

Start of day four he says:

I heard noise.

Insanity count is still 1

. I warded someone. I will say who after noise claims are completed.

That insanity is aversion, To me.

Almost at the end of day 4:

I do find it interesting the CSL still hasn't posted his promised findings. I think he is just being a VI, but his promise to withhold his findings from the town was as scummy as it gets.

Semi's V/LA reeks of scumminess, along with my other previously stated reasons.

Chaco's reasonless wagon jump reeks of scumminess.

Magua's resistance to vote reeks of scuminess, along with my other previously stated reasons.

Voting for a No Lynch reeks of murderer trying to fly under the radar.

If CSL wasn't already a shoe in, I would change my vote to him.

Insanity Infraction

Ooh, What´s this, An insanity infraction?
Well, I don´t see my name anywhere....

Also, Now at the start of day 5:

No noise. Insanity count still 1.

So, Sly?
Why the lying?

Vote: Slysly

[Pablo Molinero]

I'm down with voting for either of the people that went after semi yesterday.

[Datadanne]

-.-

[Looker]

How do you pronounce your name...?

[semioldguy]

@Datadanne
I agree that SlySly could not have received an insanity infraction for that post if he was telling the truth about his insanity only being aversion toward you. What I don't understand is how he can receive an insanity infraction at all for that post.

I went back and checked his posts for the players he mentions in the infraction post. Every player he mentions in that post he mentions in at least one other post yesterday without mentioning everyone else, yet none of those posts received insanity infractions. Since there is not a vote in the post, he could not have gotten an infraction for one of the voting insanities. He doesn't have twitchy. Which leaves... nothing that relates to posting abilities.

@SlySly
What insanity did you receive an infraction for?