Mafia 33: Checkmate - Game over!


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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:54 am

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Vote Count

7 Crola – (BabyJesus, Yaw, Dranko20, PookyTheMagicalBear, rolandofthewhite, Lt. Origen, Pie_is_good)
1 warpdragon – (Crola)

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Fuldu, Save the Dragons, StevieT92, warpdragon

With 12 alive, it’s 7 to lynch.

Sorry guys, my home internet went fubar and so I’m posting from work (which I’m not supposed to be online ). Crola, White Knight – mafia, has been lynched. It’s now night. Deadline later.
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:18 am

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Deadline is Tuesday 8:00am (est), on June 21st.
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:27 am

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From the white camp, the only cry heard is well there are no cries.

From the back camp, three crys echo the board.


Dranko20, StevieT92, and warpdragon (all black pawns and townies) are dead. It's Day 6, it's 5 to lynch w/ 8 alive.
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:58 am

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?? Why was Yaw not vigged???

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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:27 am

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Uh... yeah. (I'm actually agreeing with BJ!?)

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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:44 am

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Yaw wasn't vigged because the white king has a different set of preferences than you do, BJ, and protected him. There's only one way that I can win this game, and that's if everybody else kills one another during some night. And for that, I need the killing parties to be balanced and I need the non-killing parties to be dead. I color investigated Yaw early on, so I know he's white. 3 black scum and 1 white scum isn't balanced. 3 black scum and 2 white scum means that tonight they'll be shooting at each other. The queen, as well. I'll tell you right now, if we lynch Yaw, I'll be protecting the other white scum (I found them last night), and if we lynch them, I'll protect Yaw. Otherwise, I don't intend to protect anybody tonight. It's not in my best interests.

Now, the three dead pawns was unexpected. It puts me in a better position than I had figured to be. I'd be perfectly happy to lynch black scum today, or to lynch the rook. But I won't be voting for Yaw.
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:53 am

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Oh, the upshot of that that I didn't mention is that if you are actually the rook, BJ, (and I believe that you are) it's not in your interest to be voting Yaw, either. Unless the queen, the rook, and the remaining white scum all get very lucky tonight, killing Yaw today pretty much assures a black scum victory.

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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:30 am

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We have two confirmed scum?

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because I don't know if Fuldu is legit yet.
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:32 am

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Well, isn't this an interesting little situation we have here?

We all have to be
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careful what we do right now. No side has a majority, which means no side can pull off a lynch without aid from another. When you add to that the fact that a lot of us have a pretty good idea who belongs to what group...well, this gets a bit delicate.

I'm actually not sure what to do at the moment. I expected to be dead, so didn't really think it out. Fuldu's idea of getting the scum groups into balance seems good, but I'd prefer to go through all the possibilities myself.

As for everyone else -- if you have any sense of the game state whatsoever, you won't be making quick votes, and you'll be very careful to ensure the person you lynch is on exactly the right side. Scum/not scum isn't good enough anymore.
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:29 am

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Yaw is hilarious.

No side has a majority because there are SIX sides in this game right now and they all need to agree who to lynch.

And only one side wins in the end!
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:30 am

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Six? There were only four sides at the start of the game. :P
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:33 am

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I'd expect the Knights and Bishops to be of different mafias.

How else do you explain the 3 nightkills last night? Unless u believe that each mafia family has 2 kills.
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:36 am

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Fuldu wrote:Yaw wasn't vigged because the white king has a different set of preferences than you do, BJ, and protected him. There's only one way that I can win this game, and that's if everybody else kills one another during some night. And for that, I need the killing parties to be balanced and I need the non-killing parties to be dead. I color investigated Yaw early on, so I know he's white. 3 black scum and 1 white scum isn't balanced. 3 black scum and 2 white scum means that tonight they'll be shooting at each other. The queen, as well. I'll tell you right now, if we lynch Yaw, I'll be protecting the other white scum (I found them last night), and if we lynch them, I'll protect Yaw. Otherwise, I don't intend to protect anybody tonight. It's not in my best interests.

Now, the three dead pawns was unexpected. It puts me in a better position than I had figured to be. I'd be perfectly happy to lynch black scum today, or to lynch the rook. But I won't be voting for Yaw.
why the hell would you want to lynch the rook?


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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:43 am

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Oh right, I over-aggregated. :roll:
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:16 pm

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This seems to have turned from Mafia into Diplomacy.

Remember that Fuldu has a unique win condition that is exclusive of all others at this point when deciding whether to follow his lead. As the only remaining white townie, he only wins if everyone else is dead.
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:40 pm

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Lt. Origen wrote:This seems to have turned from Mafia into Diplomacy.

Remember that Fuldu has a unique win condition that is exclusive of all others at this point when deciding whether to follow his lead. As the only remaining white townie, he only wins if everyone else is dead.
Blegh, I got mixed up there for a sec...I was thinking Fuldu was the black queen. So Fuldu is the White King?? Interesting....and he admitted he is not instered in hunting scum by not protecting the queen. Lovely. Guess I'll be roleblocking him tonight so you black scum guys can kill YAW.
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:11 pm

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Wow. Go... umm... whoever kills the person who killed me. Yeah.
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:51 pm

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So who wants to take the offer of a nonagression pact with me? Pooky the Happy Huggly Bear?
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:15 pm

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There are 6 sides right now.

Black Town(2)
Black Bishop(1)
Black Knights(2)
White Rook(1)
White Bishop(1)
White King(1)

To better balance the game for everyone involved, it is my hope we lynch from one of the 2 player groups.

Now the information we have is tremendous since all of the scum happen to be cops as well.

Though whether we can come to an agreement would be questionable.

I am willing to offer a treaty of nonaggression(agreed no targetting each other at night) to any interested party.

I will have no assurances as to whether you would actually stick through with this other than your word, and you no other than my word, I hope that this would be enough for both of us.

I am also willing to offer a treaty of alliance to any player who wishes for that, we agree to vote together as a bloc, never to vote for each other, never to shoot each other. This treaty will be null if we are the only 2 players left in the game.

Seeing as how this is quite a unique mafia game, I believe it calls for new play conditions.


And seeing as how I'm an incredibly Magical Bear that feels really good to huggle, why wouldn't you want to get into an alliance with me?

The wind across the ravine is cool, the trees sway majestically in the breeze. Birds of many colors fly across the skies, chasing a majestic sunrise and I'm all alone on this veranda by myself. I lay back softly and stretch my legs across the wood. A rich aroma wafts up from my teapot, I begin to pry open my jar of honey.

Won't you come have some with me?

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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:21 pm

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The Where We Stand Vote Count

2 Lt. Origen – (Fuldu, BabyJesus)
2 Yaw – (Lt. Origen, rolandofthewhite)

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Pie_is_good, PookyTheMagicalBear, Save the Dragons,Yaw

With 8 alive, it’s 5 to lynch.

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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:22 pm

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Um... Alliance, Pooky? :D

(omg this is like Survivor)
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:24 pm

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Hmm. Here are the groupings, as I understand them:

3 Black Scum
2 Black Townies
2 White Scum
1 White Townie

Possible coalitions:

Black Scum + Black Townies : lynch white scum
Black Scum + White Scum: lynch queen or no lynch (I assume that the white mafia is unlikely to lynch the king if they think he'll protect them.)
Black Townies + White Scum + White Townie: lynch black scum

The last one doesn't really seem to offer much to the white scum, though.
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:24 pm

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*pours Roland some tea and adds a healthy dose of honey*

Of course dear,

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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:09 pm

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It's not that I'm not interested in hunting scum, BJ, it's that I'm interested in hunting everyone pretty much evenly. So today I'm interested in hunting black scum. If we lynch black scum today, it would be a waste for you to block me, I won't be protecting anyone at all, because I'll want you all to kill one another. It was only if we lynched white scum that I was going to protect white scum. I'm not protecting the queen because at this point she's just another killing party, as far as I'm concerned. I can't win while she's alive, and I can't get rid of her except either through lynching or (easier) by telling scum that it's not in my interest to protect her at night, so do what you will.

As for why I would want to lynch the rook, it's a fair question. The thing is, as I've noted, the only way I can win at this point is to go to sleep and wake up the only living person. To do that, I have to create a situation in which there are as many kills as there are other players. The rook adds a player without adding a kill, so as long as you're alive, I can't possibly win. The best I could hope for is that we'd be the only two left and tie. That's a possible outcome, but not one I can see myself aiming for. If I think I can get more people behind lynching you, I'll do that, but right now, it seems more likely that I'd get a majority behind lynching black scum.
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:44 am

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I don't care, I just want to lynch scum. So, if Yaw is one white scum, who is the other? Don't we need to know who is who if we're talking in alliances?
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