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Tracker: Town. I was always taught that a random vote causes the person voted to at least question the vote - this was, of course, in a 48 hour day period, so I don't know how it works in a 20 day period.
The only time I'd think a nolynch would be better than a lynch is if the lynch put us in a situation where the mafia can nk (if you get the lynch wrong) and win. I believe this is called lylo, but I've not used the term anywhere but on IRC. Pretty sure you already know this, but I'm bored, so I'm going to elaborate with an example. 4 players, three townies, one scum. You lynch a townie, mafia nails a townie, 1v1. Can't get majority, night kill, win (although it's normally ended at this stage).
Also, I'm bored, mind if I answer them all? :/.
I tend to lurk and make a big-ish post every so often. I normally average one or two posts in a day (real day, not a mafia day !).
20 days? Damn, longer discussion time than I've ever played before.
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I don't like you anymore . You made me lose the game.
[quote=imkingdavid]Like I said above, I think it's best for each person to answer questions directed at them before other people answer those questions. But after that, I guess you're welcome to give your opinion as well.
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Alright, I'll see if I'm bored/compelled enough to answer them later.
[quote=imkingdavid]It's good to be enthusiastic and active, but just so you realize, some games may go more slowly than others, so two posts a day is welcome to keep things running. But just don't expect everyone else to post that often either. The reason for the 20 day deadline is because people sometimes cannot post every day or even every other day. [/quote]
Yeah, makes sense, I'll keep that in mind. Couldn't think of anything else to say, so I'll type this to make it look like it's longer.
[quote=imkingdavid]You'll get used to it. And that can be cut short if we come to a decision on a lynch before that. While it's best to stretch discussion out as long as we can, it doesn't always last up to deadline. Deadline is just there in case we do take a long time to come to a decision.
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Alright, I'll keep that in mind as well. Refer to above .
[quote=imkingdavid](although if discussion is still going strong, the mod may opt to add even another week).[/quote]
Really? A month long day... That doesn't sound odd to anyone else? ^.^. Go to school "Only 160 hours left 'till the day ends!" "What?"
Also, a quick question. Does the preview button also show the latest posts on the thread (including ones posted after you started typing?)
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IKD, you ninja'd me on the explanation :<. Anyways, I re-read the thread and made up a word document file of replies to the things I though6 warranted an answer right now, so if the formatting is screwed up by Word, please let me know . This is like 3 1/3rd pages long in Word, by the way o.o. Also, these were written in order, as I read the post, so something may already have been answered/asked before.
Could this be giving himself an excuse to lurk more on the weekdays? Not saying it is for sure, but I think it’s a possibility, and as such, is worth thinking about.tracker wrote:FYI: Sundays work best for me, might only do 1 or 2 posts a day on weekdays but sunday I'm normally on a lot. Saturdays vary.
I somewhat agree with this. He does seem a little paranoid, but it’s hard not to be when you have some people trying to kill you off, is it not? It’s early in the game, almost no discussion is going on, and I think he was just trying to start some. That being said, I think Twilight makes a good point is his post:gayle wrote:From the very beginning (and yes, we are still at the beginning), twilight has been questioning a lot of things. Too many things, in my opinion. I understand that the point of the game is to question things, but some of these questions were a stretch. His posts are thick with paranoia for this stage of the game. He could be trying a little too hard to appear town.
Aren’t questions supposed to be asked at the start of the game, to start discussion? As I said earlier, I think he’s just trying to start discussion.rpg-twilight wrote:If it's scaring you that I ask questions, arent you the one who's paranoid?
This is a good point. I’d like to add that he explained it in detail. I touched it in my first post, with a small example, but he went insofar as to come up with two examples, one of which included three power roles,. He could be explaining it in depth so that the newbies in this game would understand, but isn’t that what the IC is for (not saying that others helping out is bad, or anything)?gayle wrote:He asks about the everyone's opinion on allowing a no lynch, but does not give his own until everyone else has given thiers. Then he goes out of his way to explain why a no lynch may be feasible.
Thank god that the posts are all reviewable, eh?gayle wrote:He establishes that he is scatterbrained and doesn't have the best memory. A good excuse for a mistake later in the game.
I re-read Twilight’s post, and (I) think it’s quite obvious that, a. he isn’t aiming it at anyone, and b. what the word agenda means. Could it be a means of making filler for the post, or of trying to make people thing Twilight is putting out some deeper meaning, and deflecting our attention to him?gayle wrote:He questions twilight's use of the word agenda, as if he thought twilight was accusing him.
I’ll be trying to post more too. Had some personal problems the last few days.IKD wrote: We need to be posting more often than we are (myself included).
He means townies and scum have different priorities. Scum will answer what they think makes them look the most like a townie, while a townie will answer truthfully (at least, I hope so).tracker wrote: So you mean it depends on their role/alignment? The word agenda just doesn't make sense to me here, is there some kind of hidden meaning there that I just don't understand?
So would I, but the problem is knowing who the scum are. If you have no idea who the scum are, would you rather risk hitting a townie power role of some sort, or a lurker, who, while also possibly being a power role, is not contributing much, if at all?tracker wrote: I would rather lynch scum that waste my days policy lynching lurkers.
[Offtopic] I think that doctors are overpowered in smaller games, but underpowered in larger games. Twenty player game with one doc? That’s a 1/19 shot at protecting someone! Whereas a four player game with a doc has a 1/3 chance of protecting someone – which means that you could potentially have a nokill night. [/Offtopic]IKD wrote: Doctor/Healer; you get a small chance of protecting a person, but it only really works if you choose the same person that the mafia does on the same night. Which is pretty much just luck and good guessing. And you can't choose yourself. So yeah, worst role, imo, that I've been able to play so far.
Pray tell.tracker wrote: just because I haven't chosen to announce my findings to the world doesn't mean I don't have any.
Andtracker wrote: actually in the beginnings of the post but whatever. And I say that I'll do what I can to get the missing players back in the game.
Can you clarify? I didn’t understand these.tracker wrote: Gayle's to depressing questions, I'm trying to encourage more. not really twisting is it?
The only way we’ll get a majority of people who think someone is scum is to scumhunt? Sounds like you’re already acting a little "scatterbrained".tracker wrote:
Elucidate on this.RPG wrote: The only way we'll get past the "majority not finding scum" is if we start, oh I don't know, scumhunting.
It seems like a bit of both to me. The questions seem to be helping to start discussion, right now, but I agree he is asking a lot of questions, possibly TOO many questions to just be trying to spark discussion, and is instead, as you said, trying to look like he’s contributing, while throwing the attention to the answerers, not the questioner?IKD wrote: what do you guys think about tracker's continuous questioning? Do you guys see it as him trying to spark discussion or just trying to make it look like he's participating?
But the mafia have to try and make sure they don’t sound too scummy, lest they be lynched due to that, do they not?CommieX wrote: Disagree, at least in the context of this game, as the mafia knows who is with them and who is against them whereas the town doesn't. But it's subjective.
I don’t believe that he was implying that – I think he was implying that you would use any excuse to get someone lynched (actually, I think that was stated, not implied).tracker wrote: In this post(#29), RPG overexaggerates my case as to say I'll lynch anybody for any reason whatsoever, when this is not true, and I would rather lynch someone who's given off solid scum tells as I've already said.
Seems like an excuse to lurk a bit more to me?Toon Fighter wrote: About the rest, the waters are still very muddy. Maybe tomorrow they'le be clearer
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Nice catch, even if it's just an unintentional choice of words. Definitely worth looking into. Neo-con John made a good point as well - perhaps he accidentally narrowed down the people who are scum as well by stating he hadn't talked to the other scum yet?IKD wrote:So are you admitting to talking to your scum buddy this time around?
What? Assuming you mean that you stopped at Gayle and I's posts?tracker wrote:I have Canada - Gayle down.
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I know that it's not like we can prove it, I just mean if he logs on a lot during the weekdays, but doesn't post.CommieX wrote: In general, I really hate points like this. It's not like we can prove or disprove anything about anyone's personal life, so nothing can really come out of lines involving them.
I'm sort of on both sides right now, because he did seem a little paranoid, but I also think RPG was just trying to start discussion.CommieX wrote:Could you clarify where you stand on this, because you started out saying you somewhat agree with gale, but then write a paragraph defending twilight.
K, makes sense.tracker wrote:I mean I've been doing this in alphabetical order and I've analyazed everyone from Canada - Gayle.
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*facepaw*gayle wrote:Maybe i'm missing something but wouldn't the fact that RPG says he is playing completely different from his last game imply that he HAD talked to his scumbuddy rather than had not?
Can't believe nobody realized that we took it completely backwards from the way it was meant.
I was agreeing with people. Can you please explain to me how this is jumping on bandwagons? I don't understand .gayle wrote:Canada seems awfully quick to jump on bandwagons, and only has a few posts with any substance. Though on the latter I can't speak too much as I am probably in the same position.
Hmm? What do you mean by this?NCJ wrote:(by his reputed partner in crime PE by the way).
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I noticed that, in Tracker's last post (will be looking at his others closely after this), he seems to be summarizing the large chunks of text NCJ put out - is this not the same thing NCJ himself is doing, and this one of the points that is being pushed against him?
Right now, I'm thinking either Tracker or NCJ, although Gayle has a bit of a place on my list as well.
Reasons so far:
NCJ - Re-iterating things already said, basically most of the points already said here.
Tracker - Doing the almost the exact same thing as NCJ - summarizing what had happened already.
Gayle - Lurking, mostly, but I guess I'm guilty of this myself.
Going to read over Trackers other posts, see if the pattern repeats itself in said posts.
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