Mini 880 - Mini Quick and Dirty - Game Over

[Amished]

Oh hey, we do.

/me gets used to different formatting for a VC.

[SerialClergyman]

You don't suck! No OMGUS here.. Just noting your edgy vote hopping.

I'm waiting for VP to vote me and I'll omgus the hell out of him

PS, did you realise that you just said you were voting me because you felt you should be on a wagon but before voting Sando you were

on my wagon

? What is your goal with your vote at the moment?

[Sando]

Sorry, I missed the thread link and didn't realise we'd started.

Def here, will post again in an hour or 2 with substance, promise

[Sando]

Oh, that was easier than I thought, most of that was RVS and theorycrafting. I'm mostly disappointed that I didn't beat Serial into the thread so I could vote him first, that's 2-0 to him

So it's clear, I tend to ignore meta arguments. I use my own meta for gut reads, but I wont tend to use them in arguments, or pay much attention to others.

Votes on me are fair enough given they were pre-mod posting regarding me, so that's no issue.

And I haven't posted in 2 weeks because my only other game has basically been closed since Nov 7 and my net was down for a week prior to that.

[VP Baltar]

I'm waiting for VP to vote me and I'll omgus the hell out of him

I think I'll give you a break for now.

In the meantime, I agree that amished's switch seems quite odd and edgy. Scum found, game won. Where's my medal?

Unvote, Vote:Amished

[SerialClergyman]

Your SILVER medal, young follower

[VP Baltar]

-__-

[BigBear]

Official Vote Count

SerialCleargyman (3) - Amished, ekiM, Papa Zito
ekiM (2) - Raskol, oDDin
AGar (1) - Scien
Amished (1) -VP Balter
Sando (2) - SerialCleargyman, Zorblog

Not Voting:

Ojanen, Sando, AGar

[Amished]

I wanted to bandwagon somebody, and it didn't really matter who it was to me.

Before Sando, I basically viewed myself as not voting at all as I never remember who I vote in the RVS. It was a vote without meaning, so I didn't attribute anything significant to needing to remember it.

Have fun with your medals.... in the special olympics!

@Sando: What are your impressions on any one player?

[Papa Zito]

Oooh, vote counts come in nifty boxes. Though SC's name is wrong. And Troll's.

So VP, I've changed my vote just as much as Amished has, and I even did it before he did. Why didn't that get a mention? What makes his vote-hopping worse than mine?

[VP Baltar]

@Amished-but if you just wanted to bandwagon someone, were you not already doing that with your Sando vote?

@PZ-Because you seem intent on staying in RVS for as long as possible and I have you on auto ignore at the moment. Honestly, I couldn't tell you off the top of my head much about you at this point. If you're ready to get serious, then I'll start paying attention to you.

Do you feel you had any serious votes in there I missed?

[Papa Zito]

[1]@PZ-Because you seem intent on staying in RVS for as long as possible and [2]I have you on auto ignore at the moment. Honestly, I couldn't tell you off the top of my head much about you at this point. [3]If you're ready to get serious, then I'll start paying attention to you.

1. RVS is the best part of the game.
2. ORLY?
3. Would you classify my SC vote as serious or non-serious? Also, would you classify my questions to you as serious or non-serious?

[Amished]

@VP: I thought Sando had flaked (the two weeks without posting just looking at his recent posts). Bandwagoning somebody that I thought was going to get replaced is worse than a random vote, or even not voting at all. So I switched to somebody that was here and had votes on them.

[VP Baltar]

[1]@PZ-Because you seem intent on staying in RVS for as long as possible and [2]I have you on auto ignore at the moment. Honestly, I couldn't tell you off the top of my head much about you at this point. [3]If you're ready to get serious, then I'll start paying attention to you.

1. RVS is the best part of the game.
2. ORLY?
3. Would you classify my SC vote as serious or non-serious? Also, would you classify my questions to you as serious or non-serious?

1. No
2. Yes
3. No

[Papa Zito]

I assure you the SerialClergyman wagon is SRS BSNS. As are my questions to you. Putting someone on /ignore is scummy BTW. I'd swap my vote but I don't want to hurt a fledgling wagon.

[VP Baltar]

What is your case on SC?

[VP Baltar]

Also, what is the scummy motivation to ignore you if you've said nothing of significance?

Unless you think I'm your scum buddy, I don't get it.

[Amished]

Unless it's obviously joke-y, everyone thinks what they have to say is relevant. At this point it's pretty clear to me that he {Zito} believes that he has scum in his sights. Regardless, what is the point of ignoring somebody when they could make a good point for you in the future?

Look at LOST mafia. I'm pretty sure you ignored CKD when he was right about two different people being townie (regardless that he thought you were scum); and I ignored Santos because I knew he was the cop and I was scum. Ignoring only hurt the town in that game (ignoring Santos helped me a bit).

Do you really believe that ignoring people will help you?

[VP Baltar]

Unless it's obviously joke-y, everyone thinks what they have to say is relevant. At this point it's pretty clear to me that he {Zito} believes that he has scum in his sights.

Really? Cause it looks to me like he has been jacking around in the RVS this whole time. I'm anxiously awaiting his case on SC though.

Look at LOST mafia. I'm pretty sure you ignored CKD when he was right about two different people being townie (regardless that he thought you were scum); and I ignored Santos because I knew he was the cop and I was scum. Ignoring only hurt the town in that game (ignoring Santos helped me a bit).

Ckd was wrong more often in that game than he was right by a long shot. I was ignoring him because I was pretty certain he was town and his attacks on me made no sense. In that case, ignoring him was actually very helpful to the town because it would have been a pointless town on town argument to be having. So, you're incorrect about that (and it's not really an analogue here anyhow).

I don't know what you mean by you ignored Santos.

Do you really believe that ignoring people will help you?

It's not hurting me, that's for sure. If you think Zito has brought up some especially relevant point that I missed, feel free to point it out.

[Amished]

Oh, I'm eagerly awaiting his case as well. I'm pretty sure I found out what he was looking at, but not going to jump the gun.

CKD was only really wrong about you, while right about CB and xRx I believe. If you listened to him, there'd be one less miller, I probably would've gotten shot, and ZA might not have won the game.

After a while I just stopped trying to even read what Santos was writing.

Back to this game: I guess it can't really be called ignoring if you're going to read his posts in the future and respond to them (which you imply that you're going to do with his case on SC). Saying that you're ignoring him is both a lie then; and makes you look pompous; which if that's what you're going for, knock yourself out.

If it's not going to help you, why do it? (disregarding scum gambits, etc.)

[VP Baltar]

Ckd wanted to lynch xRx, myself and Emptyger in the latter part of that game when I was ignoring him. He also was gung-ho about the Jebus (busdriver) lynch. He was definitely not correct.

It is indeed helping me because if he is only putting noise out there, it's not worth paying attention to. Look at his posts thus far in the game. I stand by that there is nothing of substance there and spending my time reading fluff isn't going to help me find scum in any way.

I never said I would ignore him for the entirity of the game, just until he gets out of the RVS.

Apart from that, I don't understand the point that either of you is trying to make. What benefit does the scum gain from ignoring a player's RVS-extending ramblings?

[Amished]

Jebus' lynch was with.. 3? people on it; and neither of the scum were bandwagoned at that point. A busdriver could cause a lot more confusion, and eliminated cop wifom (busdriven?) later in the game.

Anyways, back to this game: PZ's 2nd post (where he seriously votes for SC) is only after 3 *real* posts by SC. Does it really take that long to look over what another player discusses? Or why PZ thinks that it's scummy? In the situation where SC is your {VP} scumpartner, glossing over something that somebody else has found scummy in your partner is beneficial.

Also, saying that they haven't posted anything beneficial sets you up (as scum) later on to give you a precedent to dismiss some arguments that the person might have against you or one of your real scum buddies in the future, especially if they caught you with something rather strong in principle but they don't express it all that well.

There's scum motivation to do anything in the game.

[ODDin]

PZ seems to be with one leg out of the RVS and the other still in. This is scummy, IMHO - it gives him the ability to take a certain argument and later say either "it was only part of the RVS and I wasn't serious about it" or "look here, I've been saying that all along", depending on the circumstances.

And I join in to Amished and VP in eagerly awaiting the case on SC.

[Amished]

I disagree with your first paragraph, ODDin. PZ's ISO 6 says that SC wagon is serious; and his vote for SC was in his 2nd post. I think that makes it pretty clear that he's moving out of RVS while still being joke-y.

(side note: I potentially have less to say to you {Zito} soonish)

(personal note: I remember and can form better opinions when not playing tired)

[SerialClergyman]

Amished - how could you not have known you were voting for me - I specifically made a post about my wagon with your name included in the joke! ><

Also - where is everyone? You filthy chimps were all more active in the QT.