Perfectionist Mafia - Resultas

[dramonic]

call it gut.

[almightybob]

So why is there a wagon on him?

I honestly don't know. Almost all the votes that flew in on him used this faulty logic as their basis. Hence why I'm confident there's some scum among those who shamelessly wagoned based on said flawed logic.

[elvis_knits]

I think the problem is people saying...

"I'm voting mrsuave because of [flawed logic/redirector misunderstanding]"

Then when the logic is shown flawed, they say...

"I'm still voting MrSuave! I'll change my reasoning, but keep my vote there!"

*cough* Dramonic *cough*

hmm? Why suave in particular?

Right then, wouldn't that mean Suave was protected by a mafia redirector yesterday night, therefore most likely making him mafia?

Thank you, cookie boy

Unvote
Vote: Suave
works for me.

And now that we know that's wrong, and I ask why he's voting mrsuave, he says:

call it gut.

I call BS.

Dramonic originally asked other people why they were voting mrsuave. He didn't have a reason to vote mrsuave. I see no evidence of a gut read on mrsuave.

I'll look at the others on the wagon too, see if they did anything similar.

[elvis_knits]

They target the person with the ability and they would also select the target

Um, doesn't this mean that all the redirector did was pick Mufasa and pick either Starbuck or My Milked Eek?

How does Mr Suave factor in to this at all?

What's up, Suave-wagon? Are you reading different posts than I am?

Apparently, because I'm still pretty confused about how the redirector works, but I think I get it now.
My question is, why would the redirector pick Mufasa? What made him seem Vigilante? I mean, if the redirector picked wrong, he'd lose his ability, so it's a big risk.

Unvote

Ethereal cookie seems like he wanted to unvote when he saw he misunderstood the redirector role, so I see nothing scummy about that.

[elvis_knits]

The others voting mrsuave...

Saberwolf, I can't tell what he's doing actually. I think he thinks the misunderstanding of the redirector role is still possible, so he's still voting mrsuave. So I guess that's okay, although I'm not really sure what he's saying.

Mufasa was sort of misleading saying he was voting mrsuave because mrsuave was his intended NK target. I took that the mean that he thought his kill not going through on mrsuave was som kind of evidence that mrsuave was scum. But later he says that he just thinks mrsuave is scum, so that's why he tried to NK him and that's why he is voting him now. So I guess that's okay, but I think he was misleading to begin with.

xreckoner didn't really address the redirector problem yet as far as I can see, so I can't tell anything from that.

Conclusion:
Dramonic is the scummiest on the wagon.

[dramonic]

he's OMGUSing me.

I've played a lot with Suave and I haven't seen him do that as town, EVER.

[elvis_knits]

So you're telling me that you voted mrsuave based on faulty logic, so he voted you for it, and you're calling that OMGUS?

[FaerieLord]

FaerieLord, did you ever clarify what posts of mine you saw that showed either:

1) An inappropriate desire to get the traitor lynched (I have no idea what this would even be a tell for, by the way).
2) Evidence of me being certain that there was a traitor.

1) Err, from posts 53-74 in isolation there are 18 instances of the word traitor in your posts. Comparing with mine, they are focused in 22-25, all directed at you
2) You pointed this out yourself when you argued with me

[Sposh]

Vote Suave

I think he is the best lynch for the day... even if he is not mafia we can get some information from him dying

[elvis_knits]

Uhhhhhhhh.... WUT?

Have you been reading at all?

WHy is he the best lynch for today and what information will we get if he is not mafia?

[EtherealCookie]

Hm. I don't want my vote on Suave, and I don't like how silly Sposh's vote was so...

Vote: Sposh

[saberwolf]

I have to agree with cookie. Sposh's vote feels like a "crap this BW is losing steam better keep it rolling" motion.

unvote; vote: sposh

[MrSuave]

wow, I've heard that reasoning to vote me before. that gets people lynched is what it gets people. tsk tsk tsk. and I would also like to know what information you could possibly get from me if I die.

[EtherealCookie]

Wait..

If it's eight to lynch, it was five on last count, and then three people jumped on the wagon, didn't he just get hammered?

[saberwolf]

i only see 2 cookie, he'd be at L-1.

[Max]

Four Votes

MrSuave: (dramonic, Mufasa, xRECKONERx, Sposh)

Two Votes:
Mufasa: (Sanjay, Santos)
AlmightyBob: (AlmightyBob, FaerieLord)
Snow White (manho, Snow White)
Sposh (EtherealCookie, saberwolf)
Dramonic (MrSuave, elvis_knits)

8 To Lynch

sending out a mass prod as there is a serious lack of activity.

[Max]

Mufasa;Sanjay;xRECKONERx;Santos;manho;Snow White

Are being prodded. Anyone who has posted since midnight thursday is not on the list.

[Mufasa]

When is the deadline?

[Max]

The 23rd.

[Snow White]

Currently catching up.
Aplologies. I had an oral presentation to prepare for and my activity fell to the side.
Thanks to the mod for the prod.
Ill begin my reread from my last post and write up as soon as i can.

[xRECKONERx]

I have nothing to add.

[Sanjay]

I think this thread needs a re-read. A lot of the posts have been about what's happened in the last five pages, and that seems kind of silly for a 35 page thread.

[Sanjay]

Has anyone actually made a case against Suave or are we just lynching him for laughs?

[Santos]

I'm still questioning Snow White's cop claim. Whoever posted that smiley to post ratio about her has just been nagging me. The fact that we already had a cop flip, I really want to call bs on her cop claim, but I really don't want to make another mistake lynching a cop...

but a cop that doesn't produce investigations; I'm skeptical.

RECKONER, given what you knew from my play as cop in Lost mafia, what are your feelings towards Snow White's claim here? I had one successful investigation, then I was roleblocked the rest of the game and ended up getting lynched for not being believed.

Snow White claims cop, someone else counter-claims, and she produces no results.

Why is she not today's lynch?

[Santos]

Unvote

Vote: Snow White

I didn't see it much yesterday, but a cop claim and a loss of a cop is screaming at me to go with what is simple: Lynch the person who was counter-claimed.