Mafia 105 - Caught in the Crossfire (Game Over)

[Maemuki]

Vote Count, Day 1

hiphop ( 0 )
Budja ( 1 ) SpyreX
charter ( 0 )
ConfidAnon ( 3 ) crypto - sigma - CSL
crypto ( 0 )
CSL ( 0 )
elvis_knits ( 0 )
Energetic Penguin ( 0 )
hitogoroshi ( 0 )
Hoopla ( 2 ) popsofctown - Energetic Penguin
Idiotking ( 0 )
imaginality ( 0 )
Infinis ( 0 )
Juls ( 0 )
Maemuki ( 0 )
Pads ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 1 ) - charter
Psychologic ( 0 )
RayFrost ( 0 )
RedCoyote ( 0 )
roflcopter ( 2 ) hitogoroshi - maemuki
sigma ( 3 ) Sotty7 - infinis - RedCoyote
Sotty7 ( 0 )
SpyreX ( 8 ) Pads - Vi - RayFrost - Budja - hiphop - Hoopla - roflcopter - ConfidAnon
Vi ( 1 ) - elvis_knits
Unvote ( 4 ) - Idiotking - Juls - imaginality - Psychologic
Total Votes ( 25 )

With 25 alive, 13 needed to reach a majority.
Deadline is at December 1st, 11am EST

@maemuki, hitogoroshi: I disagree. If bob directs a slightly accusatory question at bill, and then votes bill, it looks like a non-random vote. If you look at e_k's statement, it looks like she's implying feelings to vi ('it is not wild and crazy' implies that vi stated as such) that weren't there, IMO. So, I read it as a non-random vote for a dodgy reason, which is why I wrote my note in the first place.

?? I don't understand what you mean.

My guess it's that e_k decided to use the fact that Vi

never saw the "I don't know you I vote you" method before

as her random vote. But each to his own. That's something that e_k has to answer, not me.

[roflcopter]

sigma votes confid --> maemuki questions sigma about something unrelated to confid --> confid ignores everything sigma said about him to parrot maemuki's point

yeah ok i could lynch confidanon today

[roflcopter]

my above post is an example of why its sometimes good to note who is obviously town.

[CSL]

guys maemuki is town

I feel obligated to believe this, but isn't it a bit early to be spitting out stuff such as "confirmed town"?

[Vi]

guys maemuki is town

I feel obligated to believe this, but isn't it a bit early to be spitting out stuff such as "confirmed town"?

1) No
2) You're putting "confirmed" into rofl's mouth

[roflcopter]

it is never too early to put a thorn in the side of the scum

[roflcopter]

ah, vi's point number two is what was making me so uneasy about that post. i couldn't quite put my finger on it. that was sneaky.

[Maemuki]

I feel obligated to believe this, but isn't it a bit early to be spitting out stuff such as "confirmed town"?

You seem uneasy around people thinking I'm town. Why? Would you be like this if they called me scum? Why did you put "confirmed" into rofl's mouth?

@ Roflcopter, Vi, why am I town?

[CSL]

@ Vi: Thanks forclearing that up.

ConfidAnon seems like a good lynch target, so I'm going to

Vote: ConfidAnon

Comments/Questions/Complaints/Alerts of aliens?

[roflcopter]

maemuki, 90% gut read, 10% little things i just don't think scum would have done in the situation. i'm not going to give the scum a roadmap for making me think they're town though, so i'll be leaving it at that.

[Maemuki]

ConfidAnon seems like a good lynch target, so I'm going to

Vote: ConfidAnon

Why, or is it just to go with the flow?

Comments/Questions/Complaints/Alerts of aliens?

AN ALIEN (named question) IS RIGHT ABOVE YOU!

[CSL]

I feel obligated to believe this, but isn't it a bit early to be spitting out stuff such as "confirmed town"?

You seem uneasy around people thinking I'm town. Why? Would you be like this if they called me scum? Why did you put "confirmed" into rofl's mouth?

Nevermind, Vi cleared that up.

Would I be like this if they called you scum? No, because that makes you a target for a lynch.

Thought he implied "Confirmed town", but I guess he didn't.

[CSL]

ConfidAnon seems like a good lynch target, so I'm going to

Vote: ConfidAnon

Why, or is it just to go with the flow?

Reasons already stated by other users

Comments/Questions/Complaints/Alerts of aliens?

AN ALIEN (named question) IS RIGHT ABOVE YOU!

Lol

[Vi]

guys maemuki is town

I'm pretty sure I agree with this.

Why?

Are you implying that you're NOT Town?

You're playing transparently in asking questions and demanding answers from people - digging up the information that the RVS frankly doesn't provide.
This isn't within your meta per se but I think circumstances have changed since the last two games in which I've seen you.
Whatever you're doing differently, pass it on to CSL and RayFrost for me, please <.<

I has a question though. You've argued both for (174) and against (186) people joining the wagon. Just skimming by I didn't see where you mentioned the result of reading through SpyreX's posts - just that people didn't give what you considered good reasons to vote SpyreX. So what was your individual read on SpyreX?

My guess it's that e_k decided to use the fact that Vi never saw the "I don't know you I vote you" method before as her random vote.

Actually, I may have used it before. If you're going to place an early vote with no other information, it's a good tactic.
However, that's not why I voted or pressured sigma, so AFAIK e_knits' vote was a

non sequitur

.

yeah ok i could lynch confidanon today

If we're going to keep agreeing with each other we could probably reduce the scum to ashes D1 ^.^

*WARNING* A HUGE BATTLESHIP IS APPROACHING FAST

Fixed~

[Maemuki]

Thought he implied "Confirmed town", but I guess he didn't.

He did? Where? It's D1! Even a cop wouldn't get results. So, no cop = no confirmed townie. You should know this!...for...obvious reasons.

maemuki, 90% gut read, 10% little things i just don't think scum would have done in the situation. i'm not going to give the scum a roadmap for making me think they're town though, so i'll be leaving it at that.

*nods* I understand.

[CSL]

@ Mae: Unless he's scum.

[Vi]

@ Mae: Unless he's scum.

Scum

hate

calling people Town.
They hate Town calling people Town even more.

Limiting the number of people you're willing to suspect is anti-scum play.

[CSL]

So, what you are saying, Vi, is they hate town calling people town? Sweet, I really want to tick them off!

...

[Maemuki]

@ Mae: Unless he's scum.

It would be quite a stupid tactic. Imagine scum were on 3-p lylo.

Scum never suspected me. But, on lylo, they vote for me (me L-1). The other player points that out (scum L-1), I hammer scum for switching sides so quickly. (scum lynched, town win.)

And this is only one scenario.

@ Vi, you're kidding me? I didn't? Gosh, I'm sorry! I'll be writing it right now then!

[CSL]

Ok, just a random

FoS: Maemuki

because she didn't accept my apology yet. D:

[roflcopter]

csl, do you have any completed games on this site as scum, and if so can you please post links to them?

[Maemuki]

...as I said,

we are out of the RVS.

Now let me write my view on SpyreX, kthx. You need to write your view on SpyreX too, if I'm not wrong.

[roflcopter]

actually, csl, could you link me to any games where you are lynched as town, too?

[CSL]

No, it was a fake FoS to remind you of what I really really REALLY want you to do.

...View of SpyreX underway, please wait a few minutes...

[Vi]

csl, do you have any completed games on this site as scum, and if so can you please post links to them?

I have one.

This was kind of a game with CSL-Town in it. Not lynched though.