Mafia 104 - Revenge of the Crimson King - Game!

[swimmer4lyfe]

nevermind, I read the votes wrong. I'm at 5 votes

[RayFrost]

overdefensiveness is a scum tell only when you can tell the difference between it and defending yourself

your "Scum tell" on me is asking Tar for clarification because I didn't understand.

That's why it is a crap case.

I know the difference between overdefensiveness and defending oneself. Yours felt over the top.

My "scum tell" is Cyber's attempt to stay out of the spotlight, which I've already explained. Your subtle defense of him is noted, and I don't believe you when you say you don't understand. I found it to be obvious.

Tar has also stated pretty much exactly what I have said in that regards...why no suspicion on him?

- What is this "personal scumtell", exactly, and how is it applicable to both myself and Ray? I mean inductive logic is terrible at the best of times, but you're taking it one step further here.
- The reasons for your case being bad have already been covered. I don't feel like repeating what other people have said on the very same page.

How am I putting words in your mouth?

I've already explained what the personal scumtell is. Maybe you should read the thread.

This is putting words into my mouth:

You've got a serious self-fulfilling prophecy going on here, my friend. I'd bet a lot of money that if you'd been ignored you'd be going on about "omg scum coverup I'M ONTO SOMETHING HERE" instead

1. tar didn't

2. hardly a subtle defense when something isn't obvious - seems like you are buddying tar by saying what he said was obvious and attacking cyberbob and myself (the latter was a bad idea, though, scummy one)

3. cyberbob is being active now, and I don't see anything wrong with him for the time being

monkeyman:

so you think he's lying

what about?

what makes you think that?

[MonkeyMan576]

overdefensiveness is a scum tell only when you can tell the difference between it and defending yourself

your "Scum tell" on me is asking Tar for clarification because I didn't understand.

That's why it is a crap case.

I know the difference between overdefensiveness and defending oneself. Yours felt over the top.

My "scum tell" is Cyber's attempt to stay out of the spotlight, which I've already explained. Your subtle defense of him is noted, and I don't believe you when you say you don't understand. I found it to be obvious.

Tar has also stated pretty much exactly what I have said in that regards...why no suspicion on him?

- What is this "personal scumtell", exactly, and how is it applicable to both myself and Ray? I mean inductive logic is terrible at the best of times, but you're taking it one step further here.
- The reasons for your case being bad have already been covered. I don't feel like repeating what other people have said on the very same page.

How am I putting words in your mouth?

I've already explained what the personal scumtell is. Maybe you should read the thread.

This is putting words into my mouth:

You've got a serious self-fulfilling prophecy going on here, my friend. I'd bet a lot of money that if you'd been ignored you'd be going on about "omg scum coverup I'M ONTO SOMETHING HERE" instead

1. tar didn't

2. hardly a subtle defense when something isn't obvious - seems like you are buddying tar by saying what he said was obvious and attacking cyberbob and myself (the latter was a bad idea, though, scummy one)

3. cyberbob is being active now, and I don't see anything wrong with him for the time being

monkeyman:

so you think he's lying

what about?

what makes you think that?

I distrust people who speak in absolutes on day 1.

[RayFrost]

You just did.

[MonkeyMan576]

You just did.

Um...no?

[RayFrost]

I distrust people who speak in absolutes on day 1.

Is an asbolute.

I distrust (implied all) people who speak in absolutes on day 1.

Asbolute

[MonkeyMan576]

I distrust people who speak in absolutes on day 1.

Is an asbolute.

I distrust (implied all) people who speak in absolutes on day 1.

Asbolute

You're so clever.

How about this...

Speaking in absolutes is something I tend to distrust in people on day 1...

[RayFrost]

Sure, but you've already been called out for hypocrisy.

asbolutely wonderous, ain't it?

[xRECKONERx]

Mod: votecount?

[RayFrost]

Mod: votecount?

RECKONER: opinions?

[Seraphim]

Vote Count

Tarhalindur(0) -

Vaya(1)

- Kise
Devestation(0) -

Mufasa(1)

- Raivann
WarWound(0) -
xRECKONERx(0) -
Snow_Bunny(0) -
Riceballtail(0) -

Socrates(0)

-
Wickedestjr(0) -

Exalt(2)

- Glork, Merkabah

swimmer4lyfe(5)

- Tarhalindur, Empking, Exalt, Cyberbob, MonkeyMan576

Kise(2)

- RayFrost, Pads
Glork(0) -
Empking(0) -

RayFrost(2)

- Wickedestjr, swimmer4lyfe
SolemnJ(0) -
Merkabah(0) -

MonkeyMan576(5)

- Socrates, Snow_Bunny, SolemnJ, xRECKONERx, Riceballtail
Cyberbob(0) -
Pads(0) -
Infinis(0) -
Raivann(0) -

Not Voting(5)

- Vaya, Devestation, Mufasa, Infinis, WarWound

With 23 alive, it is 12 to lynch.
Deadline: 30/11/09

Slicey replaces Infinis as soon as I send Slicey a role PM.

[Riceballtail]

I don't believe that swimmer has inside info at this point.

Yes, you are definately scum.

Unvote:
Vote: Swimmer4lyfe

You could have at least given a reason to vote your buddy, instead of looking like such an obvious bus.

[MonkeyMan576]

He's def not my buddy. And I gave a reason for the vote.

[Riceballtail]

But you are scum then, since you have buddies?

[MonkeyMan576]

Everyone in the town is my buddy:).

[RayFrost]

Everyone in the town is my buddy:).

obv lying scum.

I'm not his buddy.

[MonkeyMan576]

Everyone in the town is my buddy:).

obv lying scum.

I'm not his buddy.

Obv you're not town then.

[RayFrost]

Everyone

in the town

is my buddy:).

obv lying scum.

I'm not his buddy.

Obv you're not town then.

You didn't say "all townies" and you spoke in asbolutes again.

hypocrite

[MonkeyMan576]

You're agreeing to being not-town. You're worse.

[Raivann]

I think this is the scummiest post here. It's pretty obvious what Tar is referring to. People are RVSing it up, and usually the person that tries to show themselves as serious and waiting for RVS to be up is very likely to be scum.

I think its silly to ask Tar to clarify, and shows a subtle connection between you and Cyberbob.

Vote: RayFrost

What cyberbob said is true.

Anyways...

It is not obvious what Tar was talking about.

Wanting the RVS to be over in order to get some real discussion and scum hunting going on is pro-town, so that couldn't be a slip.

I didn't see anything that was really... noteworthy about Cyberbob's post, so I asked Tar to clarify.

Also, since when is asking for clarification a scum tell? It's a null tell

at best

, since it requests more information, it doesn't say "I think you are wrong cuz [flimsy reasoning]" or "I think you are wrong cuz [super awesome reasoning]." It just asks "what are you talking about here?"

Nice try, though.

pro tip: don't try to defend your scum buddies so much that you end up reaching for some reason to chainsaw defend (wait... isn't that a tell tar thought of? )

I agree, I too saw nothin scummy in Cyberbobs post.
Cyberbob wasnt going out of his way to look serious or anything.
At least I didn't get that vibe from it.
To call it the scummiest post is suspicious.

FoS:Swimmer

@Monkey- How is a player who is good at logic bad for the town again?

[Snow_Bunny]

Unvote, vote: MonkeyMan

Scummiest read so far. His attack seems rather vague, and, he just stroke me as scum.

[RayFrost]

You're agreeing to being not-town. You're worse.

You said "in the town"

that includes scum/3rd party/town

null tell.


you spoke in asbolutes again

fail

[MonkeyMan576]

Unvote, vote: MonkeyMan

Scummiest read so far. His attack seems rather vague, and, he just stroke me as scum.

You claim you're voting me because "I just struck you as scum" yet you accuse me of being vague?

[MonkeyMan576]

You're agreeing to being not-town. You're worse.

You said "in the town"

that includes scum/3rd party/town

null tell.


you spoke in asbolutes again

fail

Well, I know I'm town. You're basically claiming 3rd party or scum, which is it?

[RayFrost]

You're agreeing to being not-town. You're worse.

You said "in the town"

that includes scum/3rd party/town

null tell.


you spoke in asbolutes again

fail

Well, I know I'm town. You're basically claiming 3rd party or scum, which is it?

third party mason jester rogue.