mini 883-Krazy Mafia Disaster- Game Over. Who won?

[Porochaz]

vote Pears

I hate pears.

[Porochaz]

Away due to death in family. Be back soonish

[Porochaz]

unvote vote DTM

Please unvote the mod.

[Porochaz]

Meh I do that a lot,

unvote

Also the reason I did it is when have you ever seen mod voting work?

[Porochaz]

Post 44, ridiculous.

vote julien

[Porochaz]

If I had a penny for every person who is not even trying to scumhunt here....

Usual V/LA until Monday. Party all the weekend.

Its page 3. In the UK there would usually be a naked girl standing here.

[Porochaz]

My guess is that the mod put himself there to confuse us all.

Unvote; Vote: Zoraster

You know why...

I dont.

[Porochaz]

The game started what? 4 days ago... Im suprised were past page 1.

[Porochaz]

I am not american. However I presume you were not meaning just me.

[Porochaz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVQ9Syg1lp4

[Porochaz]

Not that it really effects this game at all, why did you blacklist him and can you link to said game?

[Porochaz]

Actually, Porochaz, Zoraster cannot say anything, as it is an ongoing game.

Okay well then, as its A. an ongoing game and B. this is a different game. Can we say no more about it, play this game properly and leave the other game well alone. Thanks.

[Porochaz]

Ortolan is scum.

Please vote for him

vote ortolan

[Porochaz]

Why are you not voting

Im not expecting you to answer that by the way.

[Porochaz]

Sigh it was a cheap shot but worth a try,

unvote

Trying to jump start discussion you know.

Kmd as your on the player list, who's scum?

Pom, do you feel active lurkers should be lynched? Who is active lurking at the moment?

[Porochaz]

How does she have a point?

You want other players to contribute.

But...um...did you ever think of contributing yourself?

I have certainly tried to. I am posting at least every day, I am keeping track of other players, and I have my vote on somebody.

Why is your vote on who its on? I presume since you mentioned it, its more than a random vote and is a contribution?

[Porochaz]

Who else is on your hitlist?

Haylen, what do you think about you lurking?

[Porochaz]

Hitlist is a bad term. Just a lurker list then.

[Porochaz]

@tajo, Im allowed to be active once in a while, seriously though Im usually quite active, Ive got two games Im interested in and I am not so busy rl. However I have exams 14th to the 18th so will be LA then (

thats a note to mod as well

)

@Haylen Wrong!!! I will travel down to bournemouth if I have to check your here.

[Porochaz]

I sleep naked.

[Porochaz]

I wasnt voting because I didnt need to initially. Now its because Im needing the time to read through before commenting.

[Porochaz]

Some four hours later...

I never said now. Im really busy with revising and the other 2 games Ive got going that Ive kept up in. Not to say I wont get to this, just not before I go to bed.

[Porochaz]

I Like

uncertain
poro
julien

Meh

pome
zoraster
rice
dtmaster

Post more

kmd

I Dont like

csl
haylen
ortolan

We need a wagon nao. All my three choices in "I dont like" are valid.

What do all think of these three?

I am up to post 206, this one and I like this. except put julien down a category and tajo in the place of me.

[Porochaz]

Also some commentary this turned out to be, not only had I been gone for less I thought, there really hasnt been much happening. Tajo and UK are posting well. Im not liking orto so much, hes added nothing to the game. So if I were to put a vote on someone it would be orto. However really all thats happened so far is mostly meh and you know something when you get all excited by 1 or 2 peoples "commentary", you know this game is floundering.

So we move onto how to fix this. We could restart, have a "new" random phase. We could ask the mod if he could provide a vote count more frequently? Or we could put pressure on the person who has not really done anything so far beyond useless posturing.

vote ortolan

[Porochaz]

Very Empking-ish.

Useless person would also have no problem voting him to get this show on the road.

[Porochaz]

unvote vote CSL

since I last posted the choice between him and orto became infinitely easier.

[Porochaz]

Posting the player list to show people whos actually playing this game, playing being an iffy word for well meh... they should be posting here...

1. CSL
2. UncertainKitten/forbiddanlight
3. Haylen
4. ortolan
5. Pomegranate
6. populartajo
8. zoraster
9. Porochaz
10. DTMaster
11. Riceballtail
12. julienvonwolfe

Now thats done we can move onto player 3. Haylen, waiting for you to post. Actually going down the list we can also add 3-8 and 10-11 to that as well. Yes I know that RBT has posted on this page but nothing inherrently useful.

[Porochaz]

Seriously... I cant believe that beyond 1 possibly 2 players I am the most active and Im spending most of my day revising for my exam tomorrow.

Mod Can we have a prod on almost everyone.

[Porochaz]

Also although it might be the death of us Im away till the 18th now, also due to exams.

[Porochaz]

RBT hasnt done enough, period.

Neither has anyone else.

Your vote is stagnating.

[Porochaz]

Im suggesting you consider moving your vote somewhere more useful and try again later than let this game die a slow painful death.

[Porochaz]

Nope and I was only asking you because you were on. I suggest RBT does the same if he is voting otherwise.

Also,

mod, can we get more regular votecounts, possibly once every 2 pages or so or once every 2 days providing there is a change.

I do vote counts as regularly as I can.

[Porochaz]

Yeah haylen its 2.37pm UK Time... time to get it done. Im sick of waiting for you.

[Porochaz]

Or get replaced. If your missing deadlines elsewhere you do not have time for this game. I do not want you in this game if you are always going to be "um... I need to do this so wont be posting today" or "Im sorry, Ive just been distracted" I see you doing it in other games and yet your not learning from that. Stop entering games you cannot possibly be in, in ANY capacity.

[Porochaz]

I miss every deadline I'm given, even my own. Always have, always will. It's not delibrate. It's just what I do.I've said it at least once in every game i've been in, including the one i'm modding. It's a null tell for me.

Now stop fucking distracting me from my PBPA.

Im not saying its anything scummy or townie. Im saying its fucking annoying and its dragging the game down. If your missing deadlines, then maybe you need to learn how to deal with them, a few tips are: Dont overload your schedule, ie. dont join games that you have no hope of playing properly. Also, manage your time better, ie. why do what will frankly be a useless PBPA in this game when you could comment on general points. Also, set deadlines for yourself that you could possibly achieve once in a million years, ie. one person out of 11, you knew you were never going to make that. Last tip, dont blame anyone but yourself. ie. Its not my fault that your being distracted from your PBPA, so stop shifting the blame.

[Porochaz]

I assumed since we have one dead we might get a majority and the day ends but noone will be lynched anyway. However thats just theory on my part.

[Porochaz]

Hi all, just quickly, I want an orto or csl lynch as Ive already stated if there is going to be nothing new put on the table. I am currently voting CSL but seeing whos on the CSL wagon with me, I would rather

unvote vote ortolan

the reason for this is the two wagons are marginal at best and whilst if memory serves me correctly I have no problem with Pom I dont like being on a wagon with either orto or Haylen and feel more comfortable on a wagon with Tajo/zorastar. orto for the same reason as CSL is one of my two suspects, Haylen because at the very least I dont think she has given me enough proof that she has read the game enough. Now I know that slightly contradicts what I said earlier about not doing a PBPA but I was expecting some analysis on the game in general which only came on CSL before her vote fell.

[Porochaz]

hey Porochaz did you miss the part where I was scumhunting. Don't refer to this bs false dichotomy of "the ort or CSL wagons", tell me why I'm actually scummy. Your posts contains no actual reasons, just uses the false dichotomy as a basis for everything. There's no discernible logic there that I can see.

32 posts. No proper scumhunting. Try again.

Looking back I prefer this vote.

[Porochaz]

Lets play a game then. Below are all your posts - the last one or two, I did start editing out the username etc. but then I got bored so thats all in there as well as I just did a direct copy and paste job... tell me where where you have scum hunted? I dont mean going "they are scum, hur hur hur" or just a vote and nothing else doesnt count.

Post 0

Vote: ZazieR

hehe jokes


Unvote
Vote: ortolan

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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:24 pm Post subject: 1

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Actually on second thought, he's not that scummy

Unvote

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:48 am Post subject: 2

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Haylen wrote:
lol.

Unvote
Vote The Mafia in this game


do you find self-voting pro or anti town?



Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:59 pm Post subject: 3

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sup guys, how u doin'

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Haylen wrote:
Orto, I don't really think that question counts as scumhunting.


I agree, I don't think it does either.

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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:47 am Post subject: 5

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DTMaster wrote:
@Ortolan
Lol.. sup?


Sup.

DTMaster wrote:
Got the analysis yet?


What analysis?

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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:33 am Post subject: 6

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populartajo (138) wrote:
Hi.

Ort is a jester or is a scumbag trying to look like one.

Either way he dies.

Vote: ortolan.

Bye.


Why?

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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:47 pm Post subject: 7

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populartajo wrote:
Hi.

Ort is a jester or is a scumbag trying to look like one.

Either way he dies.

Vote: ortolan.

Bye.


let me assure you I don't enjoi rope as much as FL does

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ortolan
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:10 am Post subject: 8

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will you guys let me off if I stop screwing around?

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ortolan
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:58 am Post subject: 9

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- moi

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ortolan
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:00 am Post subject: 10

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ZazieR is definitely a kill magnet. Deary.

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ortolan
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:01 am Post subject: 11

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I was hoping to get some good reads out of acting like that but I realised I don't know some of these players well enough...Damn.

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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:10 am Post subject: 12

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Yes, I also doubt the killer is town. I probably would have shot myself if I were a pro-town vig. Pretty much just not keeping up with the game turned into smartarse replies and the realisation that I could engage in some fun meta-shaping. I didn't pay attention to the playerlist when I signed up, just the fact it was a Kmd game, with a bastard theme. And ironically people probably assumed I was a jester as a result. LOL.

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ortolan
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:55 pm Post subject: 13

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how does it feel

to treat me like you do

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ortolan
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:46 am Post subject: 14

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I reckon that post by Pomegranate is scummy

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ortolan
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:46 am Post subject: 15

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Vote: Pomegranate

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ortolan
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:11 am Post subject: 16

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tajo wrote:
You arent still playing your wallotext townie meta, ort.


that's not my meta, br0

Pom is scum. I am scumhunting now. Lynch pls.

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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: 17

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I noticed CSL FoSed me after already voting me. That is also scummy. You gotta pay attention to your votes, scumbag, if you wanna appear like a townie.

Pom is still scum.

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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:23 am Post subject: 18

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Actually maybe not CSL is a better wagon

Unvote
Vote: CSL

gogogo

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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:22 am Post subject: 19

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We already know you like bandwagons, because you were so happy to join mine. Ask me about double standards, scumaccino

It's possible you're just new though.

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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:15 am Post subject: 20

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I'm not playing like a VI anymore, I'm more fitting my compulsive meta now.

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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:27 am Post subject: 21

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UncertainKitten (219) wrote:
Ok, this post. What benefit did it give the town?


What benefit did this post give the town? I see none more than what my post provided.

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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:46 pm Post subject: 22

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ortolan is a terrible lynch target

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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:05 am Post subject: 23

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I'm not, I promise. Let's find a better wagon. Like yours.

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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:11 am Post subject: 24

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u r

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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:42 am Post subject: 25

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you know me from irc DTMaster, I play like this allllllllll the time. Especially there.

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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:23 pm Post subject: 26

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pls don't vote me Haylen

I cudn't handle tha dejectiun

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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject: 27

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_7Hcy0txCg

yer do it like Ricky

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well, it's not like you'd have anything to do if I hadn't gone and made myself the subject of attention. Lucky for you you can just slip in with the crowd amirite?

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actually I have honestly given all I can glean from the game. CSL scummy, Pom was scummy iirc, zoraster is "hehe I'm gunna rave on about policy lynches without doin' any scumhunting"

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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:07 pm Post subject: 30

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I am playing properly? My last ~5 posts have all been attacks on people. I don't get what I'm supposed to be doing.

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hey Porochaz did you miss the part where I was scumhunting. Don't refer to this bs false dichotomy of "the ort or CSL wagons", tell me why I'm actually scummy. Your posts contains no actual reasons, just uses the false dichotomy as a basis for everything. There's no discernible logic there that I can see.

So why are you scummy, well the main thing is you have a negative effect on this game. You fail to make any reasonable contribution and the only thing you have done is gone "Pom is scummy", thats not attacking thats not scum hunting, thats just a shit statement used so that you can pretend your in this game, whilst you really are just being a jerk. I thought you were better than this orto and it really sickens me that your no better than Empking or Mastin, something the site could do without. I really hope its a KMD post restriction or something like that.

Beyond that you vote for your main rival with no reasoning and the people on your wagon are better than the people on CSL's wagon so thats why Im voting you and with people like you in the game doing fuck all, I think thats good enough for a vote.

Also just to defend my point that your really badly trying to use against me... I voted for you to try and gauge reactions early on, I then asked questions to people who were around to jump start this game. When I came back from illness, I put a proper vote on you with reasons then decided it was better on CSL granted I didnt give a proper reason so Ill give it now that in the time between my voting CSL post and my previous one he had some terrible replys to UK I think it was. So I have done my best with this game in that I have done something. You definetly have not.

[Porochaz]

This is a town that lynches scummy players, orto is on 4 votes, you are on 3.

[Porochaz]

And why isn't Julien lynched yet either? Easily as scummy as the two main wagons, with nothing but IIoA posts. Only "scumhunting" is trying to build a crap wagon on me. An excellent lynch target for the town.

Here's the thing between you and Julien, he has played the lurker card. Which is by far a inexperience play more than anything else. However I disagee with you in that its been 100% IIoA (which if we could use the words no analysis would be a hell of a lot easier, its the first time Ive seen it and it took me a long time to find what it meant) as he is one of the few players contributing something and to be honest he hasnt really tunneled at all as far as I can see up until recently and thats because you have not answered his questions (beyond with a lame excuse). I now want an answer to his questions. Please answer it.

On the other hand, he hasnt done much and there is a lot of it which isnt helpful.

Now we move to the other side of the table. RBT you are tunneled. Your not considering anyone else but julien as the lynch. You have failed to produce much content either. So really your initial complaints of julien are fairly hypocritical.

So yeah, essentially your both voting each other and tunneling each other and considering noone else cares its not going to go anywhere. If I had to choose someone to win this argument it would be julien simply because he has a small point about you not answering his question. However its boring and its distracting from the main thing at hand. I said to julien he should unvote and look elsewhere. You should as well.

[Porochaz]

Well noone particularly wants to be lynched. What I want to know was why you fos'ed julien?

[Porochaz]

CSL 57
DTM 11
FL&UK 23&
Haylen 32
Julien 30
orto 32
Pom 25
Tajo 23
Me 41

[Porochaz]

Well guess what I was doing...

complete list

with 5 players with less posts than him, 3 with just half of that can you really call julien one of the lurkers in this game?

CSL 57
DTM 11
FL&UK 23&48=71
Haylen 32
Julien 30
orto 32
Pom 25
Tajo 23
Me 41
RBT 15
Zor 14

[Porochaz]

So you know your fos is useless even though a tiny bit of reading and a look at my post counts ruins your thinking anyway...

[Porochaz]

Orto, please bold the parts where you think you are scumhunting. Because either a. You suck really badly at it or b. your know youve done nothing and are stupidly trying to defend it instead of sticking your hands up or c. are scum.

Also even with the rolename your claim would suck. Mystery Role, oh lulz, seems like I kill people. The fact you didnt give us a rolename aalso allows me to call bs on this one.

Really Im disappointed. I expected you to be a good player.

[Porochaz]

Please do. Also, I am drunk. Please note this. I like Pie. It is important. Important like finding money in your christmas pudding, like relations between Nancy and Frank Sinatra, like doctor coxs hating hugh jackman, like facebook taking away all its privacy settings. BASTARDS.

[Porochaz]

And judging by your jerkiness that could take forever.

[Porochaz]

Post 362 adequetly explains it.

Also with this game we have had 17 pages of near uselessness. Ive never known a playerlist to be so meh about a game and its not just 1 person its a good 7 or 8 people out of the 11. So we really dont have much to go on as everybody is downright refusing to play and the mod isnt helping matters with few votecounts and lack of prodding people who are failing to post adequetly. Now unfortunetly you have posted slightly more than most but as 362 shows, its all been nothing and you have not been scumhunting. Your votes hold no pressure, no reasoning behind them. That is the reason why you are scummy and in a game like this that is unfortunetly enough.

[Porochaz]

Exactly, you have been a detriment to town. Anti town enough that I think your scum and if your not its a benifit to town anyway.

[Porochaz]

I claim, rightly or wrongly, because something weird happened and think in this situation its better to claim than to keep quiet with my stance the day before:

Vig, I shot CSL. I presume it hit zoraster instead.
Tajo hit RBT and interesting theory:
Pom might not be dead or we have an SK who killed her.

I am iffy about letting everyone direct my kill because of the amount of potential anti town roles. So I am working on a strategy. I think everyone else is a power role or non vanilla townie looking at things so I recommend a mass claim. Depending on what roles we have it might not be luck. I have to say I dislike UK's post in comparison to her stance yesterday. More on that later.

[Porochaz]

I honestly dont care how we claim but I think under current circumstances its a good idea.

[Porochaz]

Julien is last. Would prefer to comment afterwards.

[Porochaz]

If we keep yu alive which judging by the amount of kills we dont have.

[Porochaz]

Who knows. We have 5 left. We had 4 deaths. One admittedly a bomb. Another was me, even without me we still have 2 kills unaccounted for.

Ill make a table of the possibilities later.

[Porochaz]

Merry Christmas - 54.

[Porochaz]

Happy Birthday as well.

[Porochaz]

our various options and what happens if we vote no lynch etc.

It will take time and be boring work so Im going to do it when its not christmas. We have the time so Im going to use it.

[Porochaz]

I would have assumed that having a 3 man scum team would be way to overpowered even in a bastard game such as this... I think we should be playing under the assumption there is 1 scum and 1 sk left.

[Porochaz]

Hi guys Im on holiday until the 31st and then LA until the 1st. Will post after then. Have a good new year.

Noted.

[Porochaz]

Hi Im back. Not much has happened but Ill post later.

[Porochaz]

I should specify:
1. How did you know your kill was redirected?
2. Where is your chart?

Im assuming it simply because I wrote Kill:CSL in my PM to kmd and someone else died.

The chart hasnt even been started yet, I cant bring myself round to doing it, although I should because UK's suggestion does not seem like a good one.

[Porochaz]

Ok no double lynch unless mod is one of the lynches.
UK should retain her investigation
If you dont lynch me, I will not kill.
Out of the claims and common sense, Haylen is the best vote.
Lastly Im not doing the table as this is essentially what would be said.

[Porochaz]

Jesus Haylen, grow a pair. The only reason I "want you out" of the game is because your the best option and I think that you are the most likely to be scum. Getting upset about it is ridiculous, Im not attacking you personally.

[Porochaz]

vote Haylen

[Porochaz]

unvote

are we lynching the mod as well?

[Porochaz]

vote kmd

[Porochaz]

Bah and good luck.

[Porochaz]

Well that was absolutely ridiculous. You should have lynched Haylen from the word go.