Mafia 105 - Caught in the Crossfire (Game Over)


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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:00 am

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Vote Count, Day 2
hiphop ( 0 )
shotty to the body ( 0 )
charter ( 0 )
Energetic Penguin ( 0 )
hitogoroshi ( 1 ) - RayFrost
Idiotking ( 0 )
Infinis ( 0 )
Xylthixlm ( 0 )
Maemuki ( 10 ) - Infinis - Vi - roflcopter - charter - Zakeri - RedCoyote - sigma - Xylthixlm - SpyreX - popsofctown

Pads ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 0 )
Zakeri ( 0 )
RayFrost ( 1 ) - Idiotking
RedCoyote ( 1 ) - hiphop
roflcopter ( 0 )
sigma ( 2 ) - shotty to the body - sotty7
Sotty7 ( 0 )
SpyreX ( 0 )
Vi ( 0 )
Unvote ( 4 ) - Energetic Penguin - Maemuki - Pads - hitogoroshi
Total Votes ( 19 )

With 19 alive, 10 needed to reach a majority.
Deadline is at December 12th, 10am EST



I would try sigma, I really would (Nobody cares if I use AtE now anymore) but

Now it isn't worth it to defend myself.

I just wanted to know your reasons, that's all.

If you still care, RC and Infinis are the scummiest people here.

It's a shame I became a VI on the last two pages - but whatever. I did my best but my best wasn't enough.

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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:05 am

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All right, mae, one more time:

We've reached majority, but you get 24 hours to give us your reads (24-hour lynch rule.) Technically, the town could still lynch someone else in 24 hours, but since you seem disinclined to defend yourself, that probably won't happen. Come back tomorrow and give us lots and lots of final thoughts if you actually want the town to win.
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:08 am

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I'm starting to get some real bad jujubies from sigma too. Especially 1126 just oozes sliminess.

TOMORROW can we lynch Pads or Budja please? GOD
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:10 am

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TOMORROW can we lynch hiphop please.
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:12 am

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How abouts we shoot one lynch the other?
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:15 am

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SpyreX wrote:I'm starting to get some real bad jujubies from sigma too. Especially 1126 just oozes sliminess.
two things:
a) what does 'sliminess' even mean?
b) how is it a scum-tell exactly?

I really hate these drive-by scumtells with no explanation.
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:16 am

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Majority has been reached. You have 24 hours to move your votes if you wish to find a new plurality. The day will end unless a new majority is formed tomorrow (Wednesday) at 4pm EST.


Just as a heads up, I'll almost assuredly make the night deadline longer this time around due to (American) Thanksgiving.
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:18 am

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ITT, maemuki explains how the only pro-town thing available to a player is defending oneself.

Hey, Spyrex, identify a player who sees your points in your Budja case. Like, is it just you and your own echo or am I missing a few devout followers?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:19 am

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sigma wrote:I really hate these drive-by scumtells with no explanation.
SpyreX is a hoopy frood.
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:23 am

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I
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know where my towel is.

As for budja it appears to just be my two heads talking (although there was some nibbles that were "OHH REPLACEMENT TECH BUDJA WIN") but its day will come.

Soon. Especially after the stellar late-day play by the entity known as Budja to the body.
a) what does 'sliminess' even mean?
b) how is it a scum-tell exactly?
To be slimy. In this instance some pro-grade cheering on Mae.

Note, this ONLY really applies if Mae is town.
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:25 am

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popsofctown wrote:ITT, maemuki explains how the only pro-town thing available to a player is defending oneself.
I can't defend myself, I thought that most people here (that played with me before) knew that already. That's the part I find the hardest about playing Mafia.

If Infinis/RC don't have a reasonable excuse by tomorrow, they should be suspected - and highly suspected. If they have one on the next 24 hours, even better!
Budja please?
You mean Shotty? You said that he was reasonably pro-town before.

Ok, now I can die.
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:29 am

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Hay sigma, is Maemuki scum?
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:30 am

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SpyreX wrote:Note, this ONLY really applies if Mae is town.
Mae is not town.
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:45 am

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Vi wrote:Hay sigma, is Maemuki scum?
I'm going to go with 90% chance that she's scum, and yes, I am trying to get her thoughts in case we're actually in the wrong 10%, and yes, I will probably be attacked for cheerleading if she flips town, and hell, I'll probably be attacked for acknowledging that she might possibly flip town.
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:47 am

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I like the fact that I managed to stick myself (and my role and my alignment) into a small 10%.

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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:53 am

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Maemuki wrote:I like the fact that I managed to stick myself (and my role and my alignment) into a small 10%.

Have fun!
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:56 am

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Well, not actually lynched yet, but you know what I mean.
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:57 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:Have you noticed that you're still acting as antitown as possible even after you're lynched?
I don't want to shut up but I don't really know how to be useful either.

So, yes. What's the chance of anybody removing their votes now? At least let me die now so I won't stay until endgame and be mislynched then. And so I won't be tunnel-visioned. So you can catch scum, ok?

Is there anything you want to know? If there isn't you can just say it now, it saves me a lot of trouble.
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:08 am

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If you really think RC is scum, actually build a case and influence as many people as you can to believe he is scum.

Same for Infinis.

You totally ignored the entire point of my post. The best thing a dying townie can do is finger scums and explain why. Does it save your life? No, and we're lynching you because the past 46 pages you've been trying to save your supposedly vanilla life.

But it gets you to your wincon


AtE doesn't.
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:09 am

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sigma 1138 wrote:*puts on cowboy hat*
This is a lie until it enters your avatar.
What do you think of Maemuki's AtEs?

----

So Mae - really briefly and without many words, who's Town and who's scum?
I read Coyote-scum and Infinis-scum; anyone else?

Cut: What pops said, but more nicely.
pops, what do you think of Mae's AtEs?
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:16 am

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Maemuki wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:Have you noticed that you're still acting as antitown as possible even after you're lynched?
I don't want to shut up but I don't really know how to be useful either.

So, yes. What's the chance of anybody removing their votes now? At least let me die now so I won't stay until endgame and be mislynched then. And so I won't be tunnel-visioned. So you can catch scum, ok?

Is there anything you want to know? If there isn't you can just say it now, it saves me a lot of trouble.
I said it twice already.
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:16 am

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A 45 page thread, even with ISO reads, takes awhile to slog through. We have a word count restriction which is counter intuitive to my wall of text playstyle.

E_K posts made me suspicious and E_P for me blended into the background with my two reads of the thread.

So I started with what we know: E_K and imag are scum. Two scum teams is the best bet, but I'm willing to concede it could be one with neutrals, so I'll assume that we have one scum team per a standard game.

(I was going to link each post but time constraints and all that)

Imag ISO 2 - SpyreX wagon sucks, and barns E_K's town reads. [I'll leave looking at the wagon to those who don't have careers and family]
Town: charter, hito, me, pads, RedC, Spyrex,
E_K

Scum: E_P, CSL, Mae, IK

ISO 3 fight with Ray

ISO 4 Town: Pads,RedC, Shotty
Scum: IK, E_K, E_P [flip flop on E_K]

ISO 5 Town: Crypto, charter, pads, RedC, Shotty
Scum: E_P, E_K, Mae, I_K, CSL

ISO 6 barns Shotty ISO 3 and ISO 5 [didn't look them up]

The E_P vote and constant push could be distancing, but so early? Also probably named a single scum buddy in his town reads, anymore than that would leave the scum open to more of this kind of analysis.

As for Mae, well E_K ISO is a lot more informative

ISO 2 Vote Vi ISO 4 Unvote Vi [this is distancing] Conf is bussing Spyrex really? and barns Rofl's 192

ISO 5: Spyrex is now not scum, Crypto scum

ISO 6: Defends Mae from crypto attack

ISO 9: Hito scum

ISO 14: hiphop suspects Mae, Pads attack on Vi and mae is bad, votes I_K [this sticks out like a sore thumb]

ISO 15: more pushing Mae as town [might have been wanting town points, but seems more like defending a scum buddy]

ISO 17: More Mae

ISO 20: Vote Crypto

ISO 35: Vi, Sigma, Pads are all scum. [Vi who was defending Mae earlier]

Either Mae is scum or was in the wrong place at the wrong time as town. Her recent push on me, actually makes me think it is the later. But how many games has Mae played in here? IIRC she's not a n00b. This defeatism as had been said, is not a townish attitude.
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:19 am

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Infinis 1146 wrote:Either Mae is scum or was in the wrong place at the wrong time as town.
Her recent push on me, actually makes me think it is the later.
But how many games has Mae played in here? IIRC she's not a n00b. This defeatism as had been said, is not a townish attitude.
Even after cutting your post down to this it says virtually nothing.
Go ahead and explain the bolded.
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:47 am

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Now, see, the timing of the above (and the fact that right there is a TRUE IIoA) would make me push to power shift this if not for the defeatism.
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:48 pm

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no we can just kill inifinis tomorrow too
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