Mafia 104 - Revenge of the Crimson King - Game!

Cyberbob · Post Post #500 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:51 pm

RayFrost wrote:
Cyberbob wrote: By the time exams had finished everybody's suspicions were pretty much ironclad and there wasn't really anything I could say or do that would get people off my back.
Why so fatalistic?

Am I wrong?

RayFrost · Post Post #501 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:53 pm

Vaya was jumping on an easy wagon.

SB was p much jumping on an easy wagon too.

Same for RBT.

Glork and Merk are the only others voting you, AFAIK.

That's not all that many.

Cyberbob · Post Post #502 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:57 pm

You're being kind of naive if you think the others are smart enough not to fall for the "any lynch before

THE DEADLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

" trick.

RayFrost · Post Post #503 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:14 am

Optimal deadline lynches would be:

vaya

snow bunny

Wickedestjr · Post Post #504 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:22 am

Since, MonkeyMan is lurking...

Unvote Vote: Cyberbob

for the points Merkabah, Pads, and I brought up. Also, if he's town it's not much of a loss.

I dislike xRx's suspicions of Vaya and Snow_Bunny. I also find it odd how he brings up reasons to suspect RBT and then says he thinks she's town.

Socrates wrote:Well, my SolemnJ vote is largely useless at this point,
so I should move it.

Yet you haven't moved it yet. What was the point of this comment?

Cyberbob · Post Post #505 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:39 am

Wickedestjr wrote:Since, MonkeyMan is lurking...
Unvote Vote: Cyberbob
for the points Merkabah, Pads, and I brought up. Also, if he's town it's not much of a loss.

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Glork · Post Post #506 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:42 am

RayFrost wrote:
Socrates wrote: @Glork: What do
you
think of those three players you tasked Rec to get a read on?
I second this.

Does a teacher tell her students to read a section of a textbook because it's keeps them busy, or because the students may learn something they previously did not understand?

I said a few pages ago that this town was so scummy, I could barely take it. That wasn't a post made in jest. Do I think all three of them are scum? Almost certainly not. But there's definitely something to be looked at in that bandwagon on Cyberbob. The awkward thing is, I still think Cyberbob is a reasonable lynch today. My guess is that exactly one of the three of [Vaya, Snow_Bunny, riceballtail] is scum. But I want to play Russian Roulette with their lives a little later. There is still more information to be collected from all three of them.

Wicked: Why don't you like Reckoning's suspicions? What do you think of Vaya's and Snow_Bunny's play?

Cyberbob · Post Post #507 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:44 am

Glork wrote:The awkward thing is, I still think Cyberbob is a reasonable lynch today.

You

still

haven't said why apart from bringing out your crusty-old-veteran-of-the-game-super-duper-awesome-scumhunter act.

Cyberbob · Post Post #508 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:47 am

Also:

Glork wrote:I said a few pages ago that this town was so scummy, I could barely take it. That wasn't a post made in jest.

This is part of the reason why I haven't been defending my lynch. Town seriously deserves to lose this one already.

RayFrost · Post Post #509 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:48 am

Cyberbob wrote:Also:

Glork wrote:I said a few pages ago that this town was so scummy, I could barely take it. That wasn't a post made in jest.
This is part of the reason why I haven't been defending my lynch. Town seriously deserves to lose this one already.

I'm hurt...

RayFrost · Post Post #510 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:50 am

Anyway, I need to keep track of my thoughts and suspicions, so I may end up ISOing the crap out of everybody... or not... haven't decided yet.

Cyberbob · Post Post #511 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:59 am

RayFrost wrote:
Cyberbob wrote:Also:

Glork wrote:I said a few pages ago that this town was so scummy, I could barely take it. That wasn't a post made in jest.
This is part of the reason why I haven't been defending my lynch. Town seriously deserves to lose this one already.
I'm hurt...

I'm including myself in there, don't worry.

RayFrost · Post Post #512 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:02 am

Cyberbob wrote: I'm including myself in there, don't worry.

I'm still hurt...

Am I really doing that badly?

Cyberbob · Post Post #513 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:05 am

Naw, I'm thinking more of people like Tarhalindur, Vaya, Devestation, Mufasa (

Mod: who has actually been banned and will require replacement

), WarWound, xRECKONERx, Snow_Bunny, Riceballtail, Socrates, Wickedestjr, Wysp, Kise, Glork, Empking, SolemnJ, Merkabah, MonkeyMan576, Cyberbob, Pads, Slicey Infinis and Raivann.

RayFrost · Post Post #514 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:11 am

So...

everybody but me?

Glork · Post Post #515 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:12 am

I should probably get on that.

1) Your response to the whole 'getting people out of RVS' stage. You called it distinctly protown, which is ridiculous. The RVS resolves itself in every single game, and the only purpose that posting to truncate RVS is so that you can say "look, I was being protown." You did exactly that, which is minus points.

2) Your earliest suspicions were... convenient. Extremely convenient. MonkeyMan and Swimmer. I've come to loathe both wagons, and I have especially come to loathe the people who claimed suspicion of both players. I'm not sure where the additional Wicked suspicion came from, but it seems like the token third option. You call wicked "just plain bad" in addition to Swimmer, vote for Swimmer, and then don't mention Wicked ever ever ever again (except to respond to one of his questions much later).

3) Your continued push of the Swimmerwagon. I think it's apparent by now that Swimmer had no idea what he was doing. He was an alt (and a bad one at that), mucked up some stuff, and got himself replaced. But I now think he became the easy victim here, and you looked like you were trying to put a Swimmerwagon over the crest to Swimmerlynch.

4) Your Kise vote. Coattails, and it came just as that Swimmerwagon you loved so much started to lose steam. It was a convenient time to move your vote, and you did so in convenient fashion. Like with Wicked, once nobody bit on the Kise suspicion, you kind of ignored it forever and ever.

Mostly, I sense a general lack of consistency in your posts. Whatever *did* happen to your suspicion of Wicked? Whatever happened to your suspicion of Swimmer? Of Kise? You seem to jump from one thing to a next without any sign that you're still considering what you said in you previous couple of posts. That's a sign of a scumbag, and it's well worth my vote.

I will say that I am somewhat put off with the ease by which everyone else started stated to suspect you. However, I have somewhat come to accpet that this town is very bandwagonny by nature. I chanted and cheered CyberScum for like a page and a half, and then Merk made a post that outlined like ONE point against you, and suddenly you're the flavor of the day. Had the exact same thing not happened to Monkey and to Swimmer already, I would have hopped off your wagon faster than you can post "lynchbait." Maybe I'm just desensitized, or maybe I think that there's something more solid in this than anything else. I don't know. And frankly, I don't care. But I like where my vote is. And as tempting as the Snow_Bunny wagon is, I don't see reason to move my vote just yet.

Glork · Post Post #516 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:14 am

Ray, can you please link me to the two most recent COMPLETED games you were in? I want to look at something.

Cyberbob · Post Post #517 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:15 am

OMG POST 515 IS TEH SECKS *hops on the wagon*

Cyberbob wrote:All of the other stuff is true; I've been playing really really badly and despite my best efforts haven't been able to produce very much good content. I was distracted by exams, and wasn't able to follow what was going on as well as I needed to to be able to follow any sort of consistent path of reasoning. By the time exams had finished everybody's suspicions were pretty much ironclad and there wasn't really anything I could say or do that would get people off my back.

So yeah. I was/am playing badly.

Cyberbob · Post Post #518 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:16 am

you're still not as smart as you think you are though

RayFrost · Post Post #519 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:17 am

Glork wrote:Ray, can you please link me to the two most recent COMPLETED games you were in? I want to look at something.

I'll probably not find my most recently completed, so I'm just gonna go get the completed ones I have.

Glork · Post Post #520 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:23 am

Cyberbob wrote:you're still not as smart as you think you are though

Pfft. It's not as though I claim to be perfect. Or even near-perfect. I think other people have unreasonable expectations of me, and/or assume that I have unreasonable expectations of myself.

Cyberbob · Post Post #521 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:27 am

Glork wrote:
Cyberbob wrote:you're still not as smart as you think you are though
Pfft. It's not as though I claim to be perfect. Or even near-perfect. I think other people have unreasonable expectations of me, and/or assume that I have unreasonable expectations of myself.

It's more the fact you're taking literally everything that could conceivably have a scummy motive behind it as such - and a few that couldn't besides. Your "analysis" of the RVS thing exemplifies this rather nicely.

RayFrost · Post Post #522 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:30 am

Okay, Glork. You asked for completed games.

Here you are. I obviously didn't include

all

Wickedestjr · Post Post #523 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:12 am

Glork wrote:Wicked: Why don't you like Reckoning's suspicions?

The reasoning behind his suspicions isn't very convincing. Also, are reads on those three players seem to be complete opposites. I think Snow_Bunny is town, he thinks she is scum, I think Riceballtail is scum, yet he thinks she is town. I can't get a read on Vaya, yet xRx seemed pretty sure that she was scum. It bothers me that we have such different ideas.

Glork wrote:What do you think of Vaya's and Snow_Bunny's play?

Vaya has only made three posts. None of them have been that helpful. However, having said that, I don't think Vaya would have come out of nowhere to jump on the most popular bandwagon if she was scum.

Snow_Bunny also hasn't been very helpful, but, like I said before, my gut is telling me that she is town. Also, xRx's reasons for voting her seem to be a bit reaching.

Also @Everyone - why have people been ignoring my posts?

Cyberbob · Post Post #524 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:15 am

Wickedestjr wrote:Also @Everyone - why have people been ignoring my posts?

Don't worry, if anyone has an ounce of intelligence that trend is soon to be broken given the following paragraph:

Wickedestjr wrote:Vaya has only made three posts. None of them have been that helpful. However, having said that, I don't think Vaya would have come out of nowhere to jump on the most popular bandwagon if she was scum.