Mafia 104 - Revenge of the Crimson King - Game!

[Glork]

I would be remiss if I did not. I would *MUCH* rather scrutinize everything and decide someone is protown later than ignore potential scumtells in a player's behavior. That's how I've always played, and it's worked for me in the past. I'm not about to change it for you or anyone else.

Inductive logic FTL

Huh? We're discussing an aspect of my playstyle. How does inductive logic have anything to do with that?

"It's worked for me in the past, therefore it will work for me in the future" is pretty much the very definition of inductive logic.

:rolleyes:

Cyber, this might honestly be the stupidest thing I've ever heard in a mafia game ever. There's a reason that mafia strategies exist, and it's because they give players better odds of winning. To reduce my scrutiny of your play to "inductive reasoning" is to attack the use of strategies and playstyles regardless of their nature. If you want to continue this discussion, make a thread in Mafia Discussion after this game ends.

[Riceballtail]

Ray, there are people who still haven't posted in the thread entirely, but you're focusing on Vaya? Sounds like "easy chainsaw" mentality.

Today, Cyber; tomorrow, Ray (if he flips scum for obvious chainsaw, which is going to happen).

[RayFrost]

Ray, there are people who still haven't posted in the thread entirely, but you're focusing on Vaya? Sounds like "easy chainsaw" mentality.

Today, Cyber; tomorrow, Ray (if he flips scum for obvious chainsaw, which is going to happen).

I've asked for prods/replacement for those that haven't posted at all.

Vaya

has

posted and

has

pretty much

only

made a bandwagon vote on an easy bandwagon with actually no reasoning behind it (unless you count "what merk said is soooo good" as reasoning). Seriously, this is

the most noteworthy

thing that vaya has done the

entire

game. That's a

huge

scum tell for me.

Ummm... this isn't a very good chainsaw if

I'm going after the only ones that haven't made a case

.

All it does is, tbh... nothing.

Oh, btw, RBT.

Remember that time in pokemon mafia where I was defending sociopath while attacking you?

Remember how you were mafia and claimed "I'm coming after you for chainsaw" that game?

[Cyberbob]

Cyber, this might honestly be the stupidest thing I've ever heard in a mafia game ever. There's a reason that mafia strategies exist, and it's because they give players better odds of winning. To reduce my scrutiny of your play to "inductive reasoning" is to attack the use of strategies and playstyles regardless of their nature. If you want to continue this discussion, make a thread in Mafia Discussion after this game ends.

cool story bro

[Devestation]

Cyber, this might honestly be the stupidest thing I've ever heard in a mafia game ever. There's a reason that mafia strategies exist, and it's because they give players better odds of winning. To reduce my scrutiny of your play to "inductive reasoning" is to attack the use of strategies and playstyles regardless of their nature. If you want to continue this discussion, make a thread in Mafia Discussion after this game ends.

cool story bro

Vote Cyberbob

That was just totally useless in every possible way.

[Empking]

Dev: Vote worthy?

[Cyberbob]

Cyber, this might honestly be the stupidest thing I've ever heard in a mafia game ever. There's a reason that mafia strategies exist, and it's because they give players better odds of winning. To reduce my scrutiny of your play to "inductive reasoning" is to attack the use of strategies and playstyles regardless of their nature. If you want to continue this discussion, make a thread in Mafia Discussion after this game ends.

cool story bro

Vote Cyberbob

That was just totally useless in every possible way.

Glork himself recognised that that line of discussion is more suited for Mafia Discussion than this game thread; I refer you to the last sentence of the paragraph.

I've just about run out of different ways to say "you think you're smarter than you actually are".

[Wickedestjr]

Also @Everyone - why have people been ignoring my posts?

Don't worry, if anyone has an ounce of intelligence that trend is soon to be broken given the following paragraph:

Vaya has only made three posts. None of them have been that helpful. However, having said that, I don't think Vaya would have come out of nowhere to jump on the most popular bandwagon if she was scum.

Why?

Also @Everyone - why have people been ignoring my posts?

They are bad.

Poor reasoning, etc.

That means they should be ignored? Just because you thinik they are bad, doesn't mean you don't have to respond.

1: RBT has been more helpful (or at least attempted to more helpful) than SB in my opinion. 2: Oh, look at how SB doesn't pay me any attention, then as soon as I vote her she goes digging for stuff to vote me. OMGUS-like behavior. 3: Also, I believe I implied that Vaya was scummy, but hadn't posted enough to get a real read on, WHICH IS WHY I CHOSE TO VOTE FOR SB.

1: So? Why does that indicate that she is town? Also, what exactly gave you a townier vibe from RBT?

2: The points she brought up against you were things that occurred after her previous post.

3: Where did you say that? Here you said;

Aaaand I just iso'd Vaya. Holy. Fucking. Shit.

Unvote, Vote: Vaya

Really? A post from over a week ago stating you'll get caught up in the next few days, then a reasonless vote on Cyberbob, then a post calling for more Cyber votes?

and that post seemed like you actually thought she was scum.

QFT, basically. So you're saying it's okay for someone to lurk for nearly an entire MONTH contrbuting NOTHING, then hopping on the bandwagon of the day? Where did you learn to play Mafia?

It is anti-town for her to do that, but I'm not bothered by it.

[MonkeyMan576]

@People who are voting me: What's exactly so scummy about my posts? I said I had something on Cyber, then Merka posted things about Cyber that rose my suspicions enough to a vote.

Funny thing, MM has gone into lurking. Hmm... Something smells bad... Scummy++.

Cyber is yet to defend himself. And that excuse of town deserving to lose is not good. Scummy++.

xReck voted Vaya for basically lurking, and yet he ignores MM's sudden lurking. He's even hypocrite enough to say that my reasons to vote for Cyber are convenient, when he doesn't have a real reason to vote for Cyber. When he placed his vote, he said he couldn't post the reasons atm, but then he never posted them at all. Next thing he did after voting him was pushing for his lynch. Still no reasons.

I still want a Cyber's lynch, but I'd be happy to lynch xReck any time soon.

I'm not lurking, I'm one of the more active players in the game. Taking a break for a couple of days is not lurking.

The difference between me and Vaya is I've claimed and Vaya hasn't...

Unvote:
Vote: Vaya
FOS: Snow_Bunny

[Kise]

Unvote: Vaya

Will vote when I read up. How was Thanksgiving, all?

[Snow_Bunny]

I'm not lurking, I'm one of the more active players in the game. Taking a break for a couple of days is not lurking.

The difference between me and Vaya is I've claimed and Vaya hasn't...

Unvote:
Vote: Vaya
FOS: Snow_Bunny

Convenient. You decide to "take a break from the game" just after you claim due to lots of pressure on you. Really convenient.

[Devestation]

Er, you won't get a definent conclusion from that argument, Snow_Bunny.

[Glork]

Convenient. You decide to "take a break from the game" just after you claim due to lots of pressure on you. Really convenient.

He also chose to take a few days off during Thanksgiving weekend, during which many people were on V/LA. Did that thought ever cross your mind?

[Cyberbob]

Why?

Because it's one of the most god-awful things I've ever seen. "It's too scummy to be scummy!!!" is not good in any way shape or form and you should be drawing a lot more suspicion than you currently are.

It is anti-town for her to do that, but I'm not bothered by it.

lol

[Snow_Bunny]

Convenient. You decide to "take a break from the game" just after you claim due to lots of pressure on you. Really convenient.

He also chose to take a few days off during Thanksgiving weekend, during which many people were on V/LA. Did that thought ever cross your mind?

No. I don't have Thanksgiving here in my country, and thus that didn't crossed my mind. Also, he took more than the weekend, mind you.

Going away when you are under pressure is not look good in my eyes. Period.

[MonkeyMan576]

Convenient. You decide to "take a break from the game" just after you claim due to lots of pressure on you. Really convenient.

He also chose to take a few days off during Thanksgiving weekend, during which many people were on V/LA. Did that thought ever cross your mind?

No. I don't have Thanksgiving here in my country, and thus that didn't crossed my mind. Also, he took more than the weekend, mind you.

Going away when you are under pressure is not look good in my eyes. Period.

I didn't go away. I'm tired of people that accuse others of lurking that are less than active themselves...

[RayFrost]

Convenient. You decide to "take a break from the game" just after you claim due to lots of pressure on you. Really convenient.

He also chose to take a few days off during Thanksgiving weekend, during which many people were on V/LA. Did that thought ever cross your mind?

No. I don't have Thanksgiving here in my country, and thus that didn't crossed my mind. Also, he took more than the weekend, mind you.

Going away when you are under pressure is not look good in my eyes. Period.

I didn't go away. I'm tired of people that accuse others of lurking that are less than active themselves...

ITT SB is a hypocrite and furthers the hole of obv scumminess.

ITT MM actually makes a good point.

ITT I keep track of things and tell people ITT

[Pads]

Checking back in after the holiday weekend. I'll be posting something more substantial at some point today.

[xRECKONERx]

1: RBT has been more helpful (or at least attempted to more helpful) than SB in my opinion. 2: Oh, look at how SB doesn't pay me any attention, then as soon as I vote her she goes digging for stuff to vote me. OMGUS-like behavior. 3: Also, I believe I implied that Vaya was scummy, but hadn't posted enough to get a real read on, WHICH IS WHY I CHOSE TO VOTE FOR SB.

1: So? Why does that indicate that she is town? Also, what exactly gave you a townier vibe from RBT?

2: The points she brought up against you were things that occurred after her previous post.

3: Where did you say that? Here you said;

Aaaand I just iso'd Vaya. Holy. Fucking. Shit.

Unvote, Vote: Vaya

Really? A post from over a week ago stating you'll get caught up in the next few days, then a reasonless vote on Cyberbob, then a post calling for more Cyber votes?

and that post seemed like you actually thought she was scum.

1: Are you really asking my why helpfulness = pro-town? What kind of question is that?

2: Were they, now?

3: Are you completely ignoring my following post?

[Tarhalindur]

Ray, there are people who still haven't posted in the thread entirely, but you're focusing on Vaya? Sounds like "easy chainsaw" mentality.

Today, Cyber; tomorrow, Ray (if he flips scum for obvious chainsaw, which is going to happen).

Craplogic. Chainsaw is a null tell until the person defended flips scum.

If not for the continued existence of Cyberbob (who probably isn't in your scumgroup), I would be voting you right now. However...

MFoS: Riceballtail

On the other hand... *reads Cyberbob as scum in Commie Mafia more carefully*... while Cyberbob wasn't as emotional there as he is here, dear gods his summary posts there are JUST like his ones here. (Including one very early this game where my first read was a town PBPA. Oops.)

[Riceballtail]

Wait, so you're saying that it's obvious Cyber is scum, and because of that, I should wait to find Ray scummy for chainsawing? By your own wording, you are also thus full of craplogic.

We both think it's a chainsaw.
We both think Cyberbob will flip scum.
I'm being more aggressive in scumhunting than you, because I'm trying to find ties, not wait for information to be given to me by a mod. It does tend to cause problems when I have a bad read, but that doesn't stop me from finding multiple scum D1. Your hesitancy to look into that tie is noted.

[MonkeyMan576]

Can someone summarize the Cyberbob case?

[RayFrost]

My read on cyberbob has nothing to do with me finding how quickly and easily certain players jumped onto the wagon scummy.

[Cyberbob]

On the other hand... *reads Cyberbob as scum in Commie Mafia more carefully*... while Cyberbob wasn't as emotional there as he is here, dear gods his summary posts there are JUST like his ones here. (Including one very early this game where my first read was a town PBPA. Oops.)

Whoops, guess that means I have a fairly consistent style of writing PBPAs..............

Seriously. Watching you guys run around feeling so happy with your AWESOMELY SWEET READS is actually pretty funny.

[Cyberbob]

If I get lynched and flip town it won't be because your scumtell kind of sucks, amirite? It'll be because "he was legitimately scummy!!"