Newbie 848 - The Bunny Mafia Family - over finally!

[Netopalis]

If, say, Jase were killed and Jase flipped town, we would know his arguments were not scum-driven and could therefore evaluate them knowing that there was no ulterior motive.

[Incognito]

Bwian has been prodded.

[Incognito]

Vote Count #8 of Day 3

No lynch (2) <-~ Haylen, Netopalis

Not voting (4) <-~ Bwian, Jase, Vel-Rahn Koon, Nachomamma8

With 6 alive, 4 votes will do it.

Thursday, December 10th at 4 P.M. EST.

[Bwian]

Sorry about my absence. Other things showed up and came in between. Had a really nice after work yesterday.


I havn't found the time to make the thorough analysis i I had in mind but I'll briefly share my current gut feelings and reads. When time allows I'll elaborate and add more referrences. Problem at the moment is that I've got an uneasy feeling about more than two players.

Reading up on past events the worst impression to me was when Netopalis didn't keep track of Sposh being dead. Not reading the mod posts means not keeping up on actual facts. What makes it difficult getting to a conclusion is that Nacho and VRK have been neglecting mod posts as well.

If I would call any player this game a nemesis of mine it would be Nacho. More than once we've been at each other but my feeling is that in the end we've been able to talk things though. The opposite of that would be how Haylen and VRK call scum on each other even for things that are off-topic. Despite both being experienced players they never seem to agree upon hardly anything. Their problems getting along suggests one of them being scum. I don't get a town feeling about VRK but I find that he makes a better argument than Haylen. E.g. trying to make a case of my signature left a bad impression.

The two who at the end of D1 didn't vote both voted each other earlier during the day. (TheBeanBurrito, StarOfTheShow) Note to self: Examine context.

My gut feeling about Jase was going downhill but after his lack of participance was mentioned he have shaped up.


At the moment I've got the worst gut feeling about Haylen and Netopalis. I'm uneasy with Jase and Vel-Rahn Koon. Would prefer if I dared to consider fewer players with suspicion.

[Haylen]

My gut feeling about Jase was going downhill but after his lack of participance was mentioned he have shaped up.

Have you thought that this might be what happens with scum? They lurk as much as they can, then when someone points out that they arent posting, they post really quickly then they post as much as they can without looking like they're trying too hard til they're lynched.

Despite both being experienced players they never seem to agree upon hardly anything.

Yep, and the thing that worries me most is the fence sitting that he's doing with the no lynch today. Oh huzzah! Fence-sitting, another thing to ass about reasons he's scummy.

I don't get a town feeling about VRK but I find that he makes a better argument than Haylen. E.g. trying to make a case of my signature left a bad impression.

Um...I was joking >.> I've never seen a player try to make a case based on another player...

At the moment I've got the worst gut feeling about Haylen and Netopalis.

Now go make a case about me.

[Incognito]

Vel-Rahn Koon has been prodded.

[Haylen]

Probed. PROBED!!! DAMN YOU!!!

[Haylen]

Hi Nachomamma! You should post!

[Nachomamma8]

Post what, exactly? A rant on how we're wasting time being inactive, or a response to something or someone?

[Haylen]

*shrugs* I was loney and wanted someone to post

[Nachomamma8]

I know what you mean. I don't have anything to do today (However,

Mod: I may or may not be V/LA for the next four days

), and I might be gone soon... So of course, today's the day everyone chooses to be inactive...

[Incognito]

Jase has been prodded.

[Jase]

Er, sorry everyone I'm here.

Neto: You do realize that if we lynch anyone and they flip town we lose right?

[Nachomamma8]

Er, sorry everyone I'm here.

Neto: You do realize that if we lynch anyone and they flip town we lose right?

You won't flip town so no big deal.

[Netopalis]

Jase: Good point. I was using that as an explanation as to why no-lynch is a good option, if I recall the post you are speaking of.

Sorry, everyone, finals are coming up and I've been insanely busy. I'll try to hop on later tonight and post some good cases.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

I'm here, but I don't have time for a post. I will get something substantial done tomorrow.

[Netopalis]

Ok...reading back through this, I'm having trouble seeing why we shouldn't no lynch. I've had nobody explain to me why this is a bad idea, and I've posited several reasons that I think are valid. I was scum recently in a game that finished - we won partially because the town didn't use their no lynch and any player would have, if killed, provided the town with vital information regarding connections. If nothing else, it'll give us something new to talk about.

[Nachomamma8]

Who said no lynching was a bad idea?

[Netopalis]

Nobody, but nobody has really pushed for it aside from me either. That's why I'm confused.

[Nachomamma8]

Ok. We aren't lynching ANYONE today. It's poor play. If we lynch today, we could lose. We wont have a chance to no lynch tomorrow cause we'll have already lost.

6 players.
4 town. 2 scum.
Mislynch.
We go into night with 3 town. 2 scum.
Scum kill.
2 town. 2 scum.

The mafia win conditions of newbie games and every other game is that scum win when they are equal to the number of town. 2 town + 2 scum = Town Lose.

Hear what i'm saying? WE AREN'T LYNCHING TODAY.

Neto, I think the situation's been touched on before. And just because we're no-lynching isn't an excuse for such shitty activity... D:

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Guys I just don't have anything new to add. Until we get a scum lynch my focus is going to stay on Haylen because of her bad arguments against me and her previous scummy actions.

Just one thing tho: tunnel vision is NOT scummy. Anti town, yes. Scummy, no. Scummy implies that scum do it more than town, and that is just not true when it comes to tunnel vision.

Nacho's 558 in response to my question about why a No Lynch works in our favor is what I was looking for. I'm comfortable No Lynching and then using the Night kill info to help narrow down the suspects further. I also think that people are starting to take more of a stand than they had when 558-ish was written, so we now have things to actually analyze tomorrow. Basically, since people have started talking between now and page 23 it seems to have separated out some of the people in terms of pro-town/anti-town, which is the entire point of No Lynching today.

Haylen is still my number 1 suspect. Jase and Neto are next.

Vote: No Lynch

That's "L-1" for the No Lynch. Don't vote unless you're ready to end the game day. Even then we should get a consensus that all discussion is done before someone "hammers".

[Haylen]

I'm pretty sure I was the one who gave reasons for no lynching.

[Haylen]

I dont want the game to end til VRK gives satisfactory answers to what scummy actions I have done. Preferably in bulletpoint with evidence.

[Incognito]

Bwian has been prodded.

[Nachomamma8]

I'm still waiting for Jase to respond to my last post...