Mini 892 - Mayor Mafia (GAME OVER)

charter · Post Post #350 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:18 pm

Reckoner, nhammen, and MIC, what are you thoughts on Hoopla? Town/scum? Why?

Hoopla · Post Post #351 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:25 pm

SerialClergyman wrote:2 and 2, Hoopla - 1 played, 1 read through properly, and 1 each skimmed.

This is part of my problem with you.

If you're going to use meta cases on Day 1, I suggest generating a larger sample size than this - unless you believe you've found an empirical scumtell I commit without knowing, in which case you should share it now so I can be lynched.

Protip: meta cases on day 1 are ridiculous.

charter · Post Post #352 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:36 pm

To try and undermine Serial's vote on you by contesting just one point is not going to work.

SerialClergyman · Post Post #353 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:38 pm

It's more insurance, rather than meta.

So I find someone who isn't scumhunting. This is bad, and I call them on it, and the reponse, inevitably, is: "Just look at all my games, I almost never scumhunt properly till later on" or something similar.

So when I make observations like the ones I've made against you (and against DDD), I actually check to see if this is usual for them. It allows me not to waste time making cases against VIs as well.

So the case isn't about meta, it's about your lack of contribution and lack of desire to catch scum. It's just also worth noting that in my experienceo f your play, this is both unusualish for town and usualish for scum.

Hoopla · Post Post #354 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:41 pm

charter wrote:To try and undermine Serial's vote on you by contesting just one point is not going to work.

SerialClergyman wrote:YAY for internets.

1) Lack of hunting
2) Lack of content
3) Scummy joking/lying yesterday.
4) No fire for finding scum.
5)
All
Most of the above fitting scum meta and not town meta.

1) Away
2) Away
3) I like to joke
4) Away
5) Meta cases are rubbish on D1

xRECKONERx · Post Post #355 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:41 pm

Gut read of town on Hoopla, if anything because of her meta holding up.

SerialClergyman · Post Post #356 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:49 pm

Away only gave you a pass for so long.

If you have time to joke around yesterday, time to answer questions and chat, you have had time to hunt.

You have time to hunt now.

Reck - expand?

charter · Post Post #357 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:49 pm

charter wrote:
charter wrote:What parts about nhammen being suspicious do you not agree with?
Reckoner.

Reck.

Hoopla · Post Post #358 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:50 pm

SerialClergyman wrote:So the case isn't about meta, it's about your lack of contribution and lack of desire to catch scum. It's just also worth noting that in my experienceo f your play, this is both unusualish for town and usualish for scum.

Why say it's a meta case then? It's just a cheap excuse to throw suspicion without having to explain anything.

You must also think I am exceedingly dim to not be aware of how I look as scum. To enrich your meta of me, here is a good game - it's the only other game where I've been on V/LA and risked replacement. My play was poor, and eventually lost the town the game.

This is because I like to spend a lot of time on my posts reading and analysing, and I cannot do this with 60 minutes a day available.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #359 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:55 pm

I'm not going to waste time and tell you all the things you guys think is scummy that I don't think is scummy. Let's just say that nothing nhammen has done has raised any red flags in my mind.

Debonair Danny DiPietro · Post Post #360 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:05 pm

charter wrote:Reckoner, nhammen, and MIC, what are you thoughts on Hoopla? Town/scum? Why?

My unsolicited opinion is that the case on her started up a day too early and the points against her can easily be attributed to her LA and it would've been better to see her pick up her play naturally or if she would've tried to still coast. I also think SC's point about the joke is extra nonsensy nonsense since I made a joke too (a better one at that, why no credit to Danny?) and I know I'm town.

SerialClergyman · Post Post #361 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:09 pm

jokes =/= scumtell.

Saying you are too V/LA to post content but have time to hang around posting, chatting and joking = scumtell.

charter · Post Post #362 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:26 pm

I'm really not seeing any way that Reckoner isn't scum. Just saying.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #363 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:29 pm

charter wrote:I'm really not seeing any way that Reckoner isn't scum. Just saying.

If I'm scum, what does that make nhammen?

Who are my scumbuddies?

charter · Post Post #364 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:30 pm

Hoopla, MIC, nhammen, what is your opinion on Reckoner? Town/scum?

charter · Post Post #365 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:32 pm

xRECKONERx wrote:
charter wrote:I'm really not seeing any way that Reckoner isn't scum. Just saying.
If I'm scum, what does that make nhammen?

It would make me more suspicious of nhammen.

reckoner wrote:Who are my scumbuddies?

Monkey and Hoopla.

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #366 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:37 pm

xRECKONERx wrote:
charter wrote:I'm really not seeing any way that Reckoner isn't scum. Just saying.
If I'm scum, what does that make nhammen?

Who are my scumbuddies?

Don't bother reasoning with him, once he thinks someone is scum, they are scum. Reason doesn't matter.

I'm not getting the hate on my DDD vote. It's obviously hypocritical to berate for someone for doing research wrong by mistake when you're not willing to do it by yourself.

I'm not also getting the lynch the mayor theory. What's to stop a scum lynchee from refusing to nominate a successor?

Col.'s reasons for attacking me were pretty flimsy...

If the mayor choice is between nhammen and socrates, I think I'd pick socrates. His analysis mostly makes sense, wheras nhammen hasn't added much this game, despite xReckonerx singing his praises. This also adds suspicion on xReckonerx.

Support: Socrates

SerialClergyman · Post Post #367 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:41 pm

Where did DDD wander off to?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #368 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:53 pm

I just don't see where charter is going with this line of questioning. It's nit-picky and obnoxious.

Debonair Danny DiPietro · Post Post #369 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:09 pm

SerialClergyman wrote:Where did DDD wander off to?

Well Sportscenter was just on so I was watching that.

I don't see the point in arguing with you since you've effectively dropped your case against me and since I think you're town I have no desire to try and counterstrike. And I disagree with your comment to a degree about Hoopla, if I know I only have a short amount of time it's very easy to waste that time and joke instead of playing the game seriously. But I'm not confident enough in her alignment to try and be her standard bearer. Still think Monkey is a good lynch with Kyle and Rec probably the two closest behind him.

SerialClergyman · Post Post #370 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:12 pm

Fair enough.

ALthough Hoopla did have a 3-hour stretch yesterday. Just saying.

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #371 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:18 pm

Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:
SerialClergyman wrote:Where did DDD wander off to?
Well Sportscenter was just on so I was watching that.

I don't see the point in arguing with you since you've effectively dropped your case against me and since I think you're town I have no desire to try and counterstrike. And I disagree with your comment to a degree about Hoopla, if I know I only have a short amount of time it's very easy to waste that time and joke instead of playing the game seriously. But I'm not confident enough in her alignment to try and be her standard bearer. Still think Monkey is a good lynch with Kyle and Rec probably the two closest behind him.

Your read on SC is based on what his view on your alignment is? This reeks of scum.

Moai Interceptor Cannons · Post Post #372 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:28 pm

SerialClergyman wrote:MIC - why the Socrates support?

Moai Interceptor Cannons wrote:My order of preference is Reckoner, Nhammen, Socrates.

MichelSableheart wrote:* Socrates (4)
Socrates, charter, Col.Cathart, kyle99

Moai Interceptor Cannons wrote:Currently waiting for Socrates to say stuff. I want to finalise this mayor business ASAP.

SerialClergyman wrote:Socrates - your two big posts were excellent.

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nhammen wrote:I'd like to know what about this argument gives you that they are both town. I agree that the points against DDD are pretty bad. But where do you get that the bad points mean they are both town?

Come on Nhammen, are you being this nitpicky with me on purpose? I'm not picking up any scumtells from either side. Hence,

feels like town bashing town

. I actually chose that word 'feels' so that people like you wouldn't say stuff like this, guess my vocabulary needs improvement. Bad points don't necessarily equal scum, if that's what you're getting at.

charter wrote:Reckoner, nhammen, and MIC, what are you thoughts on Hoopla? Town/scum? Why?

If I had to circle one, scum. Acting funny, could just be from limited access. Jumped on Monkey wagon for no reason. That one post of hers after Monkey's claim feels a bit like scum saying 'we can NK this guy anyway'. Willing to let her talk more before forming a solid read. Pressure wagon is understandable, not a fan of lynching her at this point. Looking forward to what she has to say now that she's out of limited access.

charter wrote:Hoopla, MIC, nhammen, what is your opinion on Reckoner? Town/scum?

Again if I had to circle one, town. From an early gut read. Dunno what you're talking about with your 'this guy must be scum'. I've probably been giving him a free pass though. May need metareading at some point. Asked scummy questions in his last last post (see Sigma in our last game

). I don't agree about Monkey and Hoopla being scumbuddies. Will reconsider my stance on Reckoner.

Debonair Danny DiPietro · Post Post #373 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:38 pm

MonkeyMan576 wrote:
Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:
SerialClergyman wrote:Where did DDD wander off to?
Well Sportscenter was just on so I was watching that.

I don't see the point in arguing with you since you've effectively dropped your case against me and since I think you're town I have no desire to try and counterstrike. And I disagree with your comment to a degree about Hoopla, if I know I only have a short amount of time it's very easy to waste that time and joke instead of playing the game seriously. But I'm not confident enough in her alignment to try and be her standard bearer. Still think Monkey is a good lynch with Kyle and Rec probably the two closest behind him.
Your read on SC is based on what his view on your alignment is? This reeks of scum.

Debonair Danny DiPietro - Post 298 wrote:Well at least you've convinced me that you're town since I don't think scum would go through so much trouble to get such a bad read.

Yes, I know you're not actually reading the thread since you're scum but could you make it less obvious? Or at least admit to being scum so we can lynch you already?

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #374 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:46 pm

Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:
MonkeyMan576 wrote:
Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:
SerialClergyman wrote:Where did DDD wander off to?
Well Sportscenter was just on so I was watching that.

I don't see the point in arguing with you since you've effectively dropped your case against me and since I think you're town I have no desire to try and counterstrike. And I disagree with your comment to a degree about Hoopla, if I know I only have a short amount of time it's very easy to waste that time and joke instead of playing the game seriously. But I'm not confident enough in her alignment to try and be her standard bearer. Still think Monkey is a good lynch with Kyle and Rec probably the two closest behind him.
Your read on SC is based on what his view on your alignment is? This reeks of scum.

Debonair Danny DiPietro - Post 298 wrote:Well at least you've convinced me that you're town since I don't think scum would go through so much trouble to get such a bad read.
Yes, I know you're not actually reading the thread since you're scum but could you make it less obvious? Or at least admit to being scum so we can lynch you already?

That makes no sense.