Mini 859 - Cleansing of Falls Church - Over

[Sanjay]

It's probably because of something scummy that's come up since KoC voted for me.

After all, why would he claim his vote for me was strictly about self-preservation if he had other reasons for his vote.

What has surfaced since that vote, KoC? Were you swayed by DKU's arguments?

[Sanjay]

Sorry, Fitz, but I'm very much committed to Sanjay at this moment. Fidelity is key

I'm touched. You rarely see that these days what with all the drive-through chapels and text-message divorces.

But there really just isn't any explanation for:

1) Why danakillsu is pretending he read the entire thread and the only thing that jumped out at him was me in the RVS.
2) Why KoC suddenly doesn't want danakillsu's lynch.

[Sanjay]

Hypothetical town Knight of Cydonia:

Right now, danakillsu is caught in an obvious lie. It is RIDICULOUSLY unlikely he read this entire thread and the only thing he noticed about anyone is me claiming something implausible during the random voting stage. It is pretty unlikely someone thinks that's a good case. And anyone with a scumdar worth a lick should be able to plainly identify flailing scum right here. I don't see how danakillsu is not scum.

You previously were very down to vote EKT and have moved from this opinion after his replacement has acted more scummy than ever. Unless you explain why, your mislynch is absolutely assured tomorrow.

If I am town, which I am, you are acting in a way that will secure two mislynches, mine and your own.

I'm not asking for you not to vote for me. You can't take me at my word that I'm town.

I'm asking you to provide ANY REASON WHATSOEVER for your recent change of heart.

[Sanjay]

Rest of the town:

Let's recall how KoC reached his delightful eleven knives vote. You can reread this portion of the thread, or follow it along with my commentary. Your choice!

Step 1: Furry declares that we should insta-bandwagon Raskol.

There's also a case against Peabody and Raskol here. It's not damning as the stuff against danakillsu, but if you are troubled that newb-town is besmirching what was previously a clear playerslot, take a read.

Step 2: I'm like, YEAH WOO BANDWAGON CHOO CHOO.

I haven't received any flak for this, but in case this bothers you, basically Furry really appealed to my sentiments when he asked to "give this game a kickstart".

Step 3: Oh, who should show up to stop us? Why, it's KoC, here to stall that wagon.

KoC's post is very strange. For a two reasons. Here they are:

1) He justifies everything Raskol did, yet still concludes he is scummy.
2) He cites "voting BigBear instead of KoC" as something scummy Raskol did.

Step 4: I press KoC over the next several posts.

I misinterpreted KoC's posts to mean "yes, there are scummy things about Raskol, but I'm not suspicious of him." I'm glad I did, because I think it encouraged KoC to take this anti-Raskol stand.

Step 5: KoC takes an anti-Raskol stand but suggests we wait for the replacement.

Oh, I wonder what answers new-Raskol will have for Raskol's play.

Step 6: EKT enters, votes KoC and doesn't answer for Raskol.

An entirely reasonable position for EKT to take. He's not a mind reader. If KoC can't explain Raskol's actions, why should EKT be able to?

Step 7: Knight of Cydonia votes EKT.

You might be thinking: Isn't this a bit early to be busing? Probably. But I think the threat of an instant-bandwagon on his scumbuddy, I think, freaked KoC. Not many people besides Furry and I posted in between Furry's proposal and KoC's vote. It would have been difficult for him to have gotten an accurate read of the situation and he probably thought the situation was more dire than it was.

[Looker]

Still prefer Sanjay to any other vote. DKU is close behind, though.
Do not appreciate current mentality of town, which seems to be "If SJ is scum, KoC is bussing scum... if SJ is town, KoC is still scum." Seems like certain people have already decided they want me lynched, regardless of alignment. These people should be watched.

Name them.

I can see now why some might think I had not read the thread. There's really no way to prove that I had. But I found after reading the thread that the most likely scum candidate was Sanjay, mainly based on the RVS, admittedly. Just because I voted based on the RVS doesn't mean I'm scum. I'll reread looking for other scum candidates, but right now I still think Sanjay looks scummy.

Sorry, but you missed the disclaimer deadline; it's now a scumtell. Of course, it isn't the end of the world, but it

is

a scumtell...or slip, whichever.

Sorry, Fitz, but I'm very much committed to Sanjay at this moment. Fidelity is key

I'm touched. You rarely see that these days what with all the drive-through chapels and text-message divorces.

But there really just isn't any explanation for:

1) Why danakillsu is pretending he read the entire thread and the only thing that jumped out at him was me in the RVS.
2) Why KoC suddenly doesn't want danakillsu's lynch.

1) I know that there are multiple explanations for things, Sanjay, and that, while yours may seem the more likely, this doesn't confirm it as true. Maybe...maybe Danakillsu's just a loser.
2) You should probably rephrase this to "Why KoC doesn't want to move his vote from me [Sanjay] to Danakillsu." A bird in the hand, Sanjay..

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We really need to evaluate who we're lynching and why:
- Who are we lynching?
- Why are we lynching them?
- Who else are we lynching if they turn town?
- Who else are we lynching if they turn scum?

We need reasons for why we're lynching whoever we're lynching (or trying to lynch), and suspected scumteams. This shouldn't be that difficult.

For example:
-

Sanjay

- Avoided DJ wagon D1, choosing instead to prosecute Bigbear and is now, D2, learning from his mistakes and bussing KoC like hell.
- If Sanjay pops town: I'd be willing to pursue a BigBear or DeathRow lynch.
- If Sanjay flips scum: I'd be willing to pursue a Furry, Dana, or KoC lynch.

So far, I'm expecting the scumteam to be:

Don_Johnson

Sanjay
Furry

[Sanjay]

For example:
-

Sanjay

- Avoided DJ wagon D1, choosing instead to prosecute Bigbear and is now, D2, learning from his mistakes and bussing KoC like hell.

- If Sanjay pops town: I'd be willing to pursue a BigBear or DeathRow lynch.

- If Sanjay flips scum: I'd be willing to pursue a Furry, Dana, or KoC lynch.

This is just all wrong.

If I am today's lynch and you don't go after DKU and KoC tomorrow, Looker, I'll be pretty disappointed in you.

[Looker]

Well you're going to be pretty disappointed, Sanjay, because I'm not. I have my sights trained on the scum and I'm pretty confident I know exactly what I'm doing.

Whatta you care, you'll be alive to cast your own vote. Furry's trying to lynch DKU

today

.

[Looker]

This is all assuming, of course, you pop town. (nice try)

See u next time around, Sanjay; I doubt I'll be in the thread again before deadline. It was great playing with you, or whoever else we decide to lynch. C'ya.

[Sanjay]

Okay, you keep working the "trying to give the scumsters a glimmer of hope" angle or whatever it is you're doing.

I'll keep pointing out how they have no chance in hell.

DKU and KoC:

EVEN IF you can get me lynched today:

1) DRK will have your number.
2) Furry will have your number.
3) havingfitz will have your number.
4) BigBear seems like he'll be very interested in the case once I'm out of the way.
5) archaebob hasn't weighed in by I'm pretty sure he'll want you gone.
6) semioldguy hasn't weighed in but I'd be surprised if he doesn't like this case, if not now then when I flip.
7) Looker

might

have your back.

Game over. Town wins.

[Kreriov]

Vote Count

Knight of Cydonia (1) - archaebob

Sanjay (5)

- BigBear looker semioldguy Knight of Cydonia danakillsu
danakillsu (4) - Furry Sanjay havingfitz DeathRowKitty

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

Deadline: Friday 11 Dec @ 11pm EST

[danakillsu]

So far, I'm expecting the scumteam to be:
Don_Johnson
Sanjay
Furry

One hundred percent agree.

If I am today's lynch and you don't go after DKU and KoC tomorrow, Looker, I'll be pretty disappointed in you.

Could only see this happening if you turn up Townie, which of course I find unlikely.

[Sanjay]

Hey, danakillsu. How's that reread coming?

It's been six hours since you last posted, you must know the thread by heart by now.

Also, if you still want to play townie, what do you make of KoC's completely unexplained change in position? Doesn't that seem odd to you?

[Looker]

Okay, I lied. Brought my laptop to work so I could check up on things (aka Sanjay).

Okay, you keep working the "trying to give the scumsters a glimmer of hope" angle or whatever it is you're doing.

I'll keep pointing out how they have no chance in hell.

7) Looker

might

have your back.

No I won't.

So far, I'm expecting the scumteam to be:
Don_Johnson
Sanjay
Furry

One hundred percent agree.

If I am today's lynch and you don't go after DKU and KoC tomorrow, Looker, I'll be pretty disappointed in you.

Could only see this happening if you turn up Townie, which of course I find unlikely.

Point 1 - Don't agree with me. It's better to share similar views, but agreeing is a no-no. You just literally gave no assistance whatsoever.
Point 2 - You forgot to call him scum. It's "...which of course I find unlikely,

scum

." You have to throw that

scum

in there, that's AtE 101. Make them believe you really think he's scum so, once he pops town, you can honestly say you were confused, not that your speedy vote on him will do you any good. I'm just sayin...if you're gonna be scum, do it right.

Hey, danakillsu. How's that reread coming?

It's been six hours since you last posted, you must know the thread by heart by now.

Also, if you still want to play townie, what do you make of KoC's completely unexplained change in position? Doesn't that seem odd to you?

See, now Sanjay is a pro. He asks about the reread because he knows you haven't read. He then goes on to state that you must know the thread by heart, which is clearly a joke because you haven't read past page 1. See? There's a lot you could learn from him, town or scum - take notes.

O, and he also asks you some bullshit about KoC which you really won't give a fuck about, but that's the point, to show the town just how apathetic you are. That way, when he pops town, you'll look like mafia scum. Are you writin' all this down?

Vote Count

Knight of Cydonia (1) - archaebob

Sanjay (5)

- BigBear looker semioldguy Knight of Cydonia danakillsu
danakillsu (4) - Furry Sanjay havingfitz DeathRowKitty

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

Deadline: Friday 11 Dec @ 11pm EST

@KoC - You no longer have to bus Sanjay to stay alive. You can get rid of Danakillsu now. That way, you'll be able to utilize some WIFOM throughout the remainder of the thread.

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On a lighter note:
Good job, everyone. You're really making this thread worthwhile. Even you, Senileoldguy. (That's a joke, I'm kidding becuz I'm happy and I like ur Darkwing Duck avatar)

[DeathRowKitty]

@DKU
So I hear you've read the thread. Describe day 1 for us. Also, what do you think of KoC? (town or scum and why?)

@KoC
You better have a stronger case on SJ than you've been letting on. If you post it after SJ's had to claim/gets lynched (if he gets lynched and flips town at least), I will personally do everything in my power to make sure you don't live through day 3.

O, and he also asks you some bullshit about KoC which you really won't give a fuck about, but that's the point, to show the town just how apathetic you are. That way,

when [Sanjay] pops town

, you'll look like mafia scum. Are you writin' all this down?

(bolding added for emphasis)What?

[Sanjay]

Ha ha.

DKU's case against me is stronger than the one KoC has been letting on.

[DeathRowKitty]

@KoC
In light of information that's recently come to my attention, I would like to clarify that the case you make on SJ may

not

be plagiarized from DKU.

[Sanjay]

Good one.

[Sanjay]

Knight of Cydonia, more like Actively Lurking to Avoid a Fight of Cydonia. (I know you all appreciate clever wordplay, but please, hold your applause. A vote for lurkerscum will suffice.)

[Looker]

O, and he also asks you some bullshit about KoC which you really won't give a fuck about, but that's the point, to show the town just how apathetic you are. That way,

when [Sanjay] pops town

, you'll look like mafia scum. Are you writin' all this down?

(bolding added for emphasis)What?

What? You don't think it's plausible or possible that Sanjay could pop town? Odd, that thought haunts my every waking minute...

[Sanjay]

I think I've got you figured out, Looker.

[DeathRowKitty]

Well, you've been saying since the start of day 2 that SJ is scum. It just strikes me as odd that you would suddenly mention that you're not so sure the day before deadline with SJ in the lead. How sure are you exactly that SJ is scum?

[Furry]

KoC, now is NOT the time to have a change of heart. The lynch that you were on for most of the day is happening now, and we need you back on it.

arch needs to move is vote in his next post

[Looker]

I think I've got you figured out, Looker.

No you don't. I appreciate the effort, though.

Well, you've been saying since the start of day 2 that SJ is scum. It just strikes me as odd that you would suddenly mention that you're not so sure the day before deadline with SJ in the lead. How sure are you exactly that SJ is scum?

I suddenly mentioned? DRK, I didn't suddenly mention anything, much less did I mention a doubt regarding Sanjay's alignment. If anything, I expressed so immense a comfort in his scumminess that I freely joke about him being town bandwagoned by opportunistic, if newbish in Dana's case, scum, which Sanjay seems to believe to be the "sichy-ashun" (U didn't say this, Sanjay - I just wanted to use quotes so you guys'd know that I know that this is not the proper spelling of the noun 'situation'.Testicles, that is all...).

I don't second-guess myself, DRK, and neither should you. I know what I'm doing. (

Regardless

of Sanjay's alignment, heh heh)

KoC, now is NOT the time to have a change of heart. The lynch that you were on for most of the day is happening now, and we need you back on it.

arch needs to move is vote in his next post

Just what I like in the mornings, a Furry Meltdown. Anybody else want some?

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So, power people, what are you plans for tomorrow? And by power people, I mean you power posters so concerned with the outome of Day 2.

And,

MOD

, I know you don't care but I think the lynch scene should involve a fist fight between Sanjay and KoC. I can taste the flavor already...

[Sanjay]

So, power people, what are you plans for tomorrow? And by power people, I mean you power posters so concerned with the outome of Day 2.

I'm not so sure I'm concerned any more.

[Looker]

Well, you should be. It's part of your responsibility as an active member of this town. You haven't given up hope, have you? It's not over yet. Whose to say I won't change my vote at the last minute? Was

that

what you had figured out?