Mini 859 - Cleansing of Falls Church - Over

[Furry]

KoC, now is NOT the time to have a change of heart. The lynch that you were on for most of the day is happening now, and we need you back on it.

arch needs to move is vote in his next post

Just what I like in the mornings, a Furry Meltdown. Anybody else want some?

This is not a meltdown. That comes if DKU doesnt get lynched.

If arch doesnt move his vote by deadline make sure you lynch him in the next two days.

[Sanjay]

Well, you should be. It's part of your responsibility as an active member of this town. You haven't given up hope, have you? It's not over yet. Whose to say I won't change my vote at the last minute? Was

that

what you had figured out?

If I say yes, will you still do it?

I know you wanted to be inscrutable to everyone, but being inscrutable to everyone but me isn't bad either.

[archaebob]

seems no one wants lynch KoC today...

vote DKU

Same exact logic as before, applies equally to DKU. I'm very disappointed that knives got replaced.

I'm mostly doing this to prevent Sanjay from being lynched. I really take issue with the way Looker is managing this right now, especially since I'm not caught up enough in this thread to evaluate it fully.

My attention is completely and utterly on another game right now, so I don't expect to be back here again until Day 2.

[Sanjay]

Thanks archae!

[BigBear]

I'll read that shit tomorrow. Right now I have to do two papers and study for a big test.

[archaebob]

arch needs to move is vote in his next post

Yeah k whatever, I just noticed this. Not really sure who you think you are, but meh, I guess you got what you wanted.

Can I ask why this mattered to you?

[Furry]

Now votes are tied. KoC has no reason to not be moving his vote.

This will be the most awesome D2 ever if DKU gets lynched

[Furry]

arch needs to move is vote in his next post

Yeah k whatever, I just noticed this. Not really sure who you think you are, but meh, I guess you got what you wanted.

Can I ask why this mattered to you?

You were throwing your vote away when it was either going to tie or put someone over the edge. It was essential to see who you were backing.

[archaebob]

ok, i guess I see the logic here, Furry.

@ everyone - if KoC doesn't move his vote over to DKU really soon, can we all of us adjourn this nonsense and quickhammer him as we should? This game would benefit enormously, as I've said, from cleaning up lurkers, and this is just ridiculous.

[BigBear]

I think it would be worthwhile for the top candidates to claim.

[Sanjay]

Vanilla town.

[archaebob]

Still prefer Sanjay to any other vote. DKU is close behind, though.
Do not appreciate current mentality of town, which seems to be "If SJ is scum, KoC is bussing scum... if SJ is town, KoC is still scum." Seems like certain people have already decided they want me lynched, regardless of alignment. These people should be watched.

Ok, this is ridiculous. KoC needs to die, and it's taking a lot of self-control to let him get away with this.

If you all can like, suddenly agree to switch to KoC, I am so totally down for an epic bandwagon hop.

I'm not going to be on anymore tonight...i'm already being irresponsible actually, and I need to do some school work. If tomorrow night isn't after deadline, I'll check back in again then.

[Sanjay]

archaebob, a danakillsu wagon is more hilarious than a KoC wagon because KoC looks absolutely ridiculous not being on a danakillsu wagon.

Plus I don't think this town moves wagons that quickly.

[Furry]

KoC wagon wont happen. Its already proven that town will go for a DKU one over it so I wont move back to it since unless I can get someone from the Sanjay wagon off that wagon, he gets lynched.

Also Furry's Theory of Vanilla (TM) says -

In the event of a player claiming vanilla town in the face of deadline, statistically the chance of them being town increases at a rate that if there is a secondary feasable lynch, the second player is more likely scum then the one claiming. This stems from Furry's Theory of Self-Preservation and Furry's Theory of Town Assuredness.

[Sanjay]

I think there are some big problems with that theory, Furry, but I don't think now is the right time to debate them.

[Furry]

Actually I have used it very accurately in the past, its all about seeing through which VT claims are from town and which are scum trying to make use of the theory

[Sanjay]

Furry, you don't seem as sure about who the scum are as I am.

How come?

[Furry]

Furry, you don't seem as sure about who the scum are as I am.

How come?

Im sure on DKU. Im not as sure on who else would go with him. I like my two very strong town reads, and my decent town read. So its DKU and then one of the others, his lynch should tell me who

[Sanjay]

What other explanation do you have for DKU's vote?

What other explanation do you have for KoC suddenly not being so excited about this wagon once it got real?

[Furry]

Here ya are. The reasons that we should be lynching DKU based entirely on his predicessors actions

Unvote :
Vote: Sanjay

How do you know there are three scum?

I was thinking the same exact thing but I didn't want to bring it up, hoping maybe he'd slip again.

Continuing a null tell. 90% of minis have three scum, its not a slip in the least bit.

BigBear's self-vote bugs me.

Far_cry is making me nervous.

Far_Cry's play has been quite strange to me. During the RVS, I have been sitting back and just noting little behavior, and I didn't like things that I saw from Far_Cry thus far.

Far_Cry's post 59 and post 60 makes me a bit uneasy. I think it is a bit strange to failvote and then revote during the RVS. It's a vote that doesn't matter anyway..

Hollow suspicions. All he is coming up with for tells is "strange" and "feels wierd". Not what you try and push a case on.

PB completely drops FC for EC when he [FC] gets replaced (hard to really show this with a quote ok?)

So zazie comes in (for FC) and then PB decides to move to BN, following the player who he was convinced was scum, but is now active and loud (AAL players are favorites for scum to follow).

I'm going to

unvote ZazieR; vote brothernature

I'm pretty sure he's scum.

I've also got an

FOS DeathRowKitty

for his unvoting of CA. You seemed really adamant about voting Confid. Now to change your vote to a lurker is alarming.

Also, I'd like to

FoS ConfidAnon

because the inconsistencies which DRK pointed out are scary.

heh... BN is scum and DRK-CA are his partners apparently by this post. Everything from PB just changed. FC is now town, EC is just *poof*-a-fied or something... he is following the trends as much as possible.

Stuff on Raskol comin, hold on huns, we can swing this.

Raskol plays the opposite card of PB. He comes in and denounces the DRK-CA wagons, and pushes on the DJ[BN] wagon.

The Zaize thing pushes it over the edge for me though given that I dont think it lines up well with a suspicion of anyone that thinks DJ is scum. Zazie went to town on BN, so anyone thinking BN is scum shouldnt be voting Zazie.

Just noticed we haven't had a post from ZazieR in over a week, though he's active in other threads.

Vote: Zazier

Hopefully a bandwagon will give him some incentive to post.

This is bad. Lurker wagon, of the main pusher of your previous vote. Makes no sense. Especially this close to deadline.

Oh, and for anyone saying ZazieR has an excuse (the "La for school" in the signature)---check his activity in his other games. He has 25 onsite posts

today alone

. If that guy's V/La then I'm a flying raccoon.

So basically---ACTIVE LURKER OMG OMG LYNCHLYNCHLYNCHLYNCHLYNCH

Zazie plays like this. Have seen it happen, he gets in too many games and does massive post bursts. Anyways, its not active lurking, its not something you lynch on, I still say its argueably a slight town tell for him. I still dont understand the move, especially given the relation of zazie to BN.

Between KoC and BigBear I prefer lynching BigBear as he will leave the most connections behind and has been individually scummier on top of that, whereas my main point against KoC is his position on the wagon and his pushing of a weak anti-town-tell (jester spec) as sole reason for that vote. BigBear's got both of those plus extra.

Really??

So now BN wagon is abandoned, Zazie wagon is abandoned and he is moving on to the new hot topics, vaguely reminicant of his predicessor. I also love how his reason for BB over KoC is having more votes. If they had idenical votes who would be preferable?

unvote

vote: ZazieR

Kill it with fire.

No. Stop. This is couterproductive and scummy as hell. The wagon isnt happening, it goes against your previous reads, and is throwing away your vote.

Also, I'd just like to remind everyone how close we are to deadline.

Says the player who keeps abandoning legitimate wagons for a lurker wagon

I guess I don't care too much, though. I won't be around tomorrow anyway, so you guys can do what you like.

unvote

Die scum die. You take your vote off the player you came in voting, that you moved to the player attacking for lurking, that you temporarily moved to a third party, back to lurker, to third part, to original vote for not full claiming.

I cant follow this logic. There is none.

Now you are going to not vote with a close count, that puts it over the edge to me.

Also I cant speak for KoC. I thought there was no chance he was scum with DKU at the start of the day, I still think its low but it has definantly grown.

If you get lynched over DKU even AFTER I got someone who I didnt expect to wagon him to join, im going to be livid.

[Sanjay]

I think if you reread the thread, you'll find KoC was quite forced into his opinion on EKT, and that EKT probably was under the impression that he was replacing into way more pressure than he was actually under because of our little bandwagon.

[Sanjay]

semioldguy: I'm really looking forward to seeing if your read on the situation has changed.

DKU: BigBear requested you claim.

KoC: Still waiting on that explanation of what the heck you were thinking.

[archaebob]

oh snap...DKU is the final replacement peabody? I completely missed that.

in my read of the first 10 pages, peabody was overwhelmingly the scummiest to me.

i definitley want DKU lynched now.

[danakillsu]

claim: cop
also, I did NOT replace peabody.

[danakillsu]

I replaced EKT.