Mafia 102: No-Frills Game Thread(Town wins!)


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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:14 am

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Just because you get to L-1 doesn't mean you claim immediately.
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Super Accurate* Vote Count(as of post 1200):

Trumpet of Doom - 5(crypto, charter, hiphop, The Inquisition, danakillsu)
Pyromaniac - 3(peanutman, Trumpet of Doom)
The Inquisition - 1(Pyromaniac)

Not Voting:mask man, Kreriov, dramonic

It takes 6 to lynch, 4 at deadline.

*Not guaranteed to be accurate.
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:16 am

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When you have as many lurkers as have that can potentially hammer you at any time without getting vital information out there, yup, you do.
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:15 am

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Danakillsu, how much of the game have you read?
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:37 am

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Kieveran, thats assuming that cop is sane.
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:16 am

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I've read the entire game. What a read!
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:23 am

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I think Pyro mixed me up with Kieveran. Yes, that IS assuming the cop is sane. Its complete WIFOM to think that the cop is NOT sane, however, and scummy to boot trying to get back into that discussion. Is there a reason to NOT do as I propose? How much does it hurt to list a few people as town? Takes all of 30 sec and only means anything AFTER the cop is known. It reduces the chance of the cop having to reveal himself to stop a false claim because if someone claims to be the cop and IS NOT NKd, that person is probably really scum. (No jailkeeper to protect anyone, remember? OF COURSE the cop will be NKd) Additionally, if someone falsely claims to be the cop, the cop can now investigate THAT person and verify his sanity! You sure missed all that when trying to restart WIFOM about the cops sanity, didn't you! Looks like my vote on you is pretty solid.
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:23 am

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dana wrote:What a read!
Eh, debatably. :P So you read before you voted Trumpet, correct?
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:52 pm

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Pyromaniac wrote:Kieveran, thats assuming that cop is sane.
what are you talking about?
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:56 pm

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Claim? Vanilla.
Pyromaniac wrote:Trumpet and the inquisition are lurking their ways to lylo. Scum, please night kill.
Ummm... will someone please explain how this makes any sense at all?

(This will likely be my only post for the next few days... my teachers don't believe in a "dead week" before finals, so I've got a crapload of schoolwork to do. If I'm not lynched by... hmmm... Sunday, I might be able to contribute more in the way of content. Sorry.)
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:16 pm

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So you read before you voted Trumpet, correct?
Why do you keep asking? YES.
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:55 pm

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Shoot, that's not what I meant to ask. I meant to ask if you read before or after you /confirmed.
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:15 pm

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I am with Kreriov. Here is my innocent
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:51 am

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I meant to ask if you read before or after you /confirmed.
I read most of the thread before even asking to replace. Then I confirmed and read the rest of the thread before voting.
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:13 am

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Most everyone has had a chance to read up. It is very disappointing that hiphop is the only person who has taken the time to list 1-3 innocents. Lie for all I care, just so long as you provide cover for the cop.
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:21 am

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Kreriov wrote:Most everyone has had a chance to read up. It is very disappointing that hiphop is the only person who has taken the time to list 1-3 innocents. Lie for all I care, just so long as you provide cover for the cop.
This is such a flawed method for providing "cover." If you mess up even one "report" scum know you're not real while the town has no idea.
You will confess.
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:45 am

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Not really. How are they to know who is doing this randomly or otherwise? Just listing 1 to 3 names, it means nothing until after the cop is dead. Just randomly picking 2 names, the odds are that you will pick 2 townies. So if everyone names two names the scum would maybe narrow the field down to 6 or 7 from 9. Well worth it to get the cop results clearly on record. It would also put the scum on the spot should one of them decide to claim cop.
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:17 am

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No, this is essentially hypocop which is a really bad strategy. It lets scum identify the cop very fast, for the reason inquisition said.

No one should do it, it doesn't help the town.
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:08 am

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danakillsu wrote:
I meant to ask if you read before or after you /confirmed.
I read most of the thread before even asking to replace. Then I confirmed and read the rest of the thread before voting.
Ah, okay. I was going to call you out if you said you read it all after confirming but before agreeing with hiphop. Never mind then.
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:39 pm

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Peanutman, I want a full list of suspects with reads and reasons nao please.
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:46 am

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I misspelled your name in a coincidental way. It is entirely logical to assume that the cop isn't sane. Unless the cop got scum on bigmc and got innocent on someone else they should not claim and should not transmit their results. Transmitting their results will end up with them being nked sooner. Unless, of course, they are insane and say the scum are innocent.
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:10 am

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Aren't cop sanities usually assured in open games?
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:46 am

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Good point, dramonic. I have no idea. We were thinking (or I was thinking) he was insane/paranoid/naive because the game already seems so stacked in the town's favor.
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:25 am

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Unvote: Trumpet of Doom. Vote: mask man.
Mask man, stop failing, please. :( I had a town read on you way back like five years ago at the beginning of the game. Since then you've been the king of coasting. :x List of suspects, plox.

Are we still going on about hypo cop? I actually trust the town's judgment this game and I'd rather not clue the mafia in on the real cop, especially given the possibility of insanity, naiveté, or paranoia.

For the motivationally challenged (cough,
mask man
, cough) I can post a vote count analysis that shows why Trumpet is either scum or extremely unlucky town (i.e., town with really inaccurate scum reads) who's been on
every
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wrong
wagon at
every
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wrong
moment in the game. Either way, stringing him up is the way to go right now.

Scumtron 5000[0.1] hiphop
[0.1] CSL/RayFrost/malpascp/Kreriov
[0.2] charter
[0.3] Team Aether/Empking/danakillsu
[0.3] Staple/WarWound/The Inquisition
[0.4] le Chat / Pyromaniac
[0.5] mask man
[0.6] X_~/Ojanen/peanutman
[0.7] Kaiveran/dramonic
[0.8] EtherealCookie / Trumpet of Doom

There, Kreriov, you can weasel a hypo cop out of that after I die tonight and flip Vermont.
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:11 am

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So stringing trumpet is the way to go... but you're voting mask.
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:23 am

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Yes, Captain Nitpicker, because he isn't posting content.

Speaking of which, you should post content.

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