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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:28 am

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@VP: Yeah, I know that's the point of popcorn, but I'm trying to discern your intention before it starts so I can make a better decision about who I want to pick to go first.
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:29 am

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my info is pretty valuable (imo) and I'd prefer to go later rather than earlier. However, if I end up having to go early by the town's decision, then so be it.
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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:30 am

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I don't mind going first. But if I do go first, the only person left with a claimed strong shot is going immediately after me.
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:31 am

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That's a majority I think. Go ahead and claim nacho and then choose who you want to claim after you.
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:44 am

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I'm a citizen, carry around a six shooter for daykilling goodness, weak shot, I win when all anti-town threats have been crushed.

VP, you next.
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:04 am

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I am a Town Marshall as well. I am Sotty's mason cop partner. We were sent to this town by the federal government to take care of the problems here.

win con is to eliminate the anti-town threats

Sotty and I could night talk and investigate. I don't know my sanity for certain, but last night I investigated Porkchop and received an innocent result. Right now, I'm inclined to believe that is accurate.

Now, Amished, the reason I believe it is nacho or ben as the last scum is due to my personal process of elimination. I have PE as innocent, pwnz is tracker, Cobalt is doc, you had scum coming after you, and I'm the cop. That only leaves ben or nacho as legit possibilities.

Sotty and I were both inclined to believe that ben was town by his play yesterday (though this is far from a guarantee), so nacho pretty much needs to be dead if you ask me.

PE could be godfather as well (I like ben's idea that the sheriff could be GF), but I don't know what evidence there is for that.

What I haven't been able to fully understand so far this game is what powers the scum really have to balance Sotty and I. Mason cops is pretty much a brick shithouse and I don't see much from scum to counter that yet. It has crossed my mind that there could be four of them...but I dunno.

I'd like ben to claim next.
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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:09 am

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After ben claims, I have input.
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:17 am

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is it dependent upon ben claiming? If it's just about my claim, you may as well go ahead and we can discuss it.
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:41 am

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I shoulda figured that out -_-
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:55 am

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Meh, I guess it doesn't matter.

Right now, I see scum possibilities as ben, PCE, or you.

I think Ben is scum because he fails both of pro-town tests in this game:
1) He hasn't caught scum or made what I feel a good effort to do so.
2) He hasn't taken any risks or done anything that would make him stand out (shooting anyone, doing anything but lurking.)

You would be scum because Sotty died Night 1 although she was not an ideal target AT ALL. The only way that the kill makes any sense, in fact, is if you and Sotty were neighbors, you got on Sotty's pro-town reads on day 1, and she told you she was a Town Marshall. So you NKed her because she was too much of a liability. Claiming Mason Town Marshall isn't that risky of a claim because it's not very likely that there would be TWO cops in this game, especially when there was a doctor and 7+ vigs in the first place. I'm also of the opinion that strong shot = scum, so I'm sure that helps my feelings on my position on you.

In my mind, the best plan of action is for pwnz to claim his investigations; me to shoot ben, and ben to shoot me. Then, after the flips, town lynches you, especially if ben is a scum with a strong shot. If the game hasn't ended by then, lynch Porkchop. Feel free to poke holes in my logic.
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:11 am

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nacho wrote:I'm also of the opinion that strong shot = scum, so I'm sure that helps my feelings on my position on you.
Except for Jazz having a weak shot that only wounded cobalt.

Also, if it wasn't blatantly obvious (looking at you Amished) that Sotty and I were confirmed masons, I don't know what would be. Why would she be so assuredly buddying with me and I with her if we were neighbors?

We were actually quite confused as to why nobody was apparently catching on. The cop part wouldn't be obvious, of course, but masons should have been a slam dunk for anyone.

Also, nacho, pwnz has already claimed his investigation. That is why jazz is dead.

As far as your plan about lynching me...yeah, not going to happen.
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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:28 am

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Except for Jazz having a weak shot that only wounded cobalt.
We don't know that. We have that she shot cobalt, and cobalt immediately healed himself. Strong shots don't necessarily have to kill in an instant.
Also, if it wasn't blatantly obvious (looking at you Amished) that Sotty and I were confirmed masons, I don't know what would be. Why would she be so assuredly buddying with me and I with her if we were neighbors?
When you're neighbors with someone day 1 and you have a town power role, you had better buddy up with them. Because if your neighbor thinks you're a threat to them and they just happen to be scum, they can kill you without a trace.
We were actually quite confused as to why nobody was apparently catching on. The cop part wouldn't be obvious, of course, but masons should have been a slam dunk for anyone.
Maybe it was strange to us because masons usually don't come in a pair.
Also, nacho, pwnz has already claimed his investigation. That is why jazz is dead.
My bad... Keep thinking it's day 3 because of all of these daykills...
As far as your plan about lynching me...yeah, not going to happen.
Why not?
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:29 am

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EBWOP to the last post (didn't mean to hit submit so fast):
By process of elimination, you've found scum to me either me or ben. So, my plan takes out all of your scum possibilities in exchange for your sacrifice... Why doesn't this sound like a good deal to you?
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:34 am

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Back from V/LA *hic
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:35 am

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nacho wrote:We don't know that. We have that she shot cobalt, and cobalt immediately healed himself. Strong shots don't necessarily have to kill in an instant.
Check what Vi wrote about Cobalt being wounded and then get back to me. Also, if strong shots don't kill in an instant, then what is the difference between them and weak shots?
nacho wrote:When you're neighbors with someone day 1 and you have a town power role, you had better buddy up with them. Because if your neighbor thinks you're a threat to them and they just happen to be scum, they can kill you without a trace.
lol, no.
nacho wrote:Maybe it was strange to us because masons usually don't come in a pair.
Ah, the elusive single mason. How can masons not be paired?
nacho wrote:By process of elimination, you've found scum to me either me or ben. So, my plan takes out all of your scum possibilities in exchange for your sacrifice... Why doesn't this sound like a good deal to you?
Because it involves lynching a cop, which is idiotic.
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:52 am

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We haven't actually SEEN what a strongshot does, VP.

Shoot: Benmage


So shoot me and find out.
Because it involves lynching a cop, which is idiotic.
It also leaves three guaranteed protown players (pwnz, Amished, Cobalt) as well as an unknown player with a weak shot (Porkchop). And weak shots take 48 hours to kill, so I'm sure that the two protowns can post Vote: Porkchop before the 48 hour time limit runs out. And the only element missing is pwnz, which is why Porkchop will shoot him at the beginning of tomorrow. That way, our victory lies on either Cobalt's or Amished's protownness, which I'm sure of. However, I'm pretty damn sure the game will be over by that point...
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:56 am

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While it is likely that Amished and Cobalt are town, I don't think it's guaranteed.

You could have at least waited for massclaim to shoot.
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:19 am

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As an exciting and innovative conversation starter, Nacho took a potshot at Benmage. Unfortunately, the Mage was not in Battle mode and did not have access to his healing spells.

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The vote count is as it was.
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:21 am

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While it is likely that Amished and Cobalt are town, I don't think it's guaranteed.
Yeah, but it's as guaranteed as you can get in a Themed Mafia game, in my opinion.

Ehh... I could've waited, but I just like shooting people, honestly :D
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:25 am

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yeah, who doesn't really!

Bleed faster (and claim), Ben.
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:56 am

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I never really look for Masons. I don't play with them that often nor see them really outside of large games that I pay attention. It was going through my head that there was a strong shot neighbor couple, but then I didn't really think to pair it with a marshal as they usually worked alone IRL.

Ecto only wounded Vi as well as a Cowboy >_>
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:47 am

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Fuckina I'm the Deputy. Last night i investigated VPB who is town. I have a strong shot....if i shoot town i lose both my ability to shoot and my badge (investigation)...hence why i never shot dj....goddamnit.
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:50 am

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shoot Nacho
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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:55 am

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Okay, VPB... if Ben's telling the truth, then you're scum. There is no way in hell that there are 2 mason cops and yet another cop, unless all of you guys are naive/insane...

Ben, is your sanity guaranteed? Because VPB might just be the Sheriff.
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:58 am

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it doesn't say
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