Mafia 37: Werewolves - Game over!

[rolandofthewhite]

That should be . I'm messing up my emoticons.

[BabyJesus]

In that case...

Vote: BabyJesus

. :oops

I guess you gotta get rid of people that doubt pooky, huh....

[Mr. Flay]

Brought-to-you-by-the-Letter-Z First Vote Count

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milkman - 3 (Mastermind of Sin, Phoebus, Save the Dragons)

Phoebus - 2 (PeaceBringer, milkman)
BabyJesus - 2 (rolandofthewhite, PookyTheMagicalBear)
SaveTheDragons - 1 (BabyJesus)

Not voting (7): Coron, Bamboomancer, mikehart, NanookTheWolf, d_rouge, draygn_mage, Dranko20

With 15 alive, it will take 8 of you to string someone up.

[NanookTheWolf]

Ok ..

Vote: RolandoftheWhite

I find myself way off when reading his posts. He started off voting for Milkman because of Milkman's post:

Oh, yeah. Vote: milkman for this:

well our first wolf, go town.

He then unvotes Milkman later that night for no reason "For now" .. (at least no reason was stated)

Next, He votes for BabyJesus with no reason stated .. comments on the fact Pooky copied his vote, then in less then an hour later unvotes BabyJesus because he thought that BJ was already investigated, finds that he wasn't then goes right back to his vote.

If this logic be true then why did he vote Milkman to begin with? I think that there may be a connection between the two, and possibly with Pooky. It seems that a lot of Roland's posts are directed at Pooky.

I know some of you may believe Pooky's claim, but think about it logically for a minute. I don't agree with BabyJesus very often, but he does raise a point about Pooky, I mean to come forward with a role like that and not get lynched directly is obscure. The only reason that I'm not voting for him atm is because he is out in the open, and I wouldn't mind hearing some more from Roland on my thoughts.



Classic scum.

Then

[rolandofthewhite]

You really effed up those quote tags.

The reason that I'm not voting for Pooky is that I think Dranko should investigate him tonight, so we can figure out of he is sane or naive. Then, we could lynch him tomorrow, him having served his purpose.

Mod, if Dranko were to investigate Pooky, and Pooky was also vigkilled, would Dranko get a result?

There's another possibility.

[NanookTheWolf]

Ok, Obviously I need to fix that ...

Ok ..

Vote: RolandoftheWhite

I find myself way off when reading his posts. He started off voting for Milkman because of Milkman's post:

Oh, yeah. Vote: milkman for this:

well our first wolf, go town.

Classic scum.

He then unvotes Milkman later that night for no reason "For now" .. (at least no reason was stated)

Next, He votes for BabyJesus with no reason stated .. comments on the fact Pooky copied his vote, then in less then an hour later unvotes BabyJesus because he thought that BJ was already investigated, finds that he wasn't then goes right back to his vote.

If this logic be true then why did he vote Milkman to begin with? I think that there may be a connection between the two, and possibly with Pooky. It seems that a lot of Roland's posts are directed at Pooky.

I know some of you may believe Pooky's claim, but think about it logically for a minute. I don't agree with BabyJesus very often, but he does raise a point about Pooky, I mean to come forward with a role like that and not get lynched directly is obscure. The only reason that I'm not voting for him atm is because he is out in the open, and I wouldn't mind hearing some more from Roland on my thoughts.

To add, I do see your reasoning about testing Dranko's sanity, so lynching Pooky today won't be on my agenda, but you on the other hand, still are.

[BabyJesus]

You really effed up those quote tags.

The reason that I'm not voting for Pooky is that I think Dranko should investigate him tonight, so we can figure out of he is sane or naive. Then, we could lynch him tomorrow, him having served his purpose.

Mod, if Dranko were to investigate Pooky, and Pooky was also vigkilled, would Dranko get a result?

There's another possibility.

I see you checked in....no reason for your vote yet? very well,

unvote, vote roland

I distrust Pooky, and I distrust you for following right along with whatever plan you two cooked up...

[rolandofthewhite]

Ok, to cover your points:

- I first voted for milkman because of his "Yay, we got a wolf! Go town!" comment, which is often a sign of scum.
- I unvoted milkman right after Dranko said he investigated him and that he was clean. I assumed I wouldn't need to explain my reasoning for unvoting, since it was rather obvious.
- As for the BabyJesus vote, I have a hunch. ::shrug::
- I misunderstood BJ talking to Pooky about voting an innocent milkman, and I thought BJ meant that he himself was investigated and proved innocent. That's why I unvoted, though it confused me, because I didn't remember BJ ever being cleared.
- I revoted him on my previous hunch when I found out that I had misunderstood his post.
- The way I act with Pooky is just because he offers me tea and a cuddle, which makes me laugh in a moderately disturbing way.
- I'm not sure if I believe Pooky's claim, but I do think we should keep him past today just to test Dranko, then we can lynch him and see if he was telling the truth or not.

[rolandofthewhite]

Oops, skipped BJ's post.

What plan are you talking about? O.o

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Wait, you guys are seriously doubting that I'm a good werewolf?

Sigh I guess the only way to confirm that I'm a goodie werewolf is to out my lover enh?

I honestly don't want to do that, obviously since it gives the wolves another big juicy target to aim at during the night(hitting 2 protown players is kinda nice for one night)


But if I don't out my lover, I'm running the risk that a vigilante will get suspicious and trigger happy and nail me tonight, which will consequently kill my lover too,

which is pretty much what will happen if the wolves get my lover.

So I guess that's pretty much what you guys are forcing me to do.

Way to go guys, and all I wanted to do was help.

My lover is Dragyn_Mage, he can confirm that.

You pretty much know at this point that we're not scum since a mafia double gambit at this point would be somewhere between suicidally insane and dangerously stupid.

I feel bitter and pained inside now .

I hope the doctor that's left cares enough to give my lover at least a 50% chance of protection if not more...

[BabyJesus]

My lover is Dragyn_Mage, he can confirm that.
...

can he confirm there is no way you are a BAD werewolf??

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Do you really think a bad werewolf would jump into the bloody spotlight like this to try to help the TOWN out?

Sigh....

[Save The Dragons]

Eh, it probably wouldn't be the first time an extreme WIFOM was used.

Unvote, Vote: roland

The more I see the more I suspect.

[BabyJesus]

Do you really think a bad werewolf would jump into the bloody spotlight like this to try to help the TOWN out?

Sigh....

I don't know...and I'm not voting you today, I just remain skeptical. I suppose you could be telling the truth, just seems a bit suspicious.

[draygn_mage]

Dead man walking! Dead man walking!

*sigh*

I am Pooky's lover. (No wonder I've been so itchy lately, you're getting a flea dip.)

I had no idea that he was a werewolf, but yes, if you lynch him I die. If you lynch me, he dies.

[BabyJesus]

Dead man walking! Dead man walking!

*sigh*

I am Pooky's lover. (No wonder I've been so itchy lately, you're getting a flea dip.)

I had no idea that he was a werewolf, but yes, if you lynch him I die. If you lynch me, he dies.

interesting....

Do the two of you have a separate win condition?

I guess leaving pooky around for a bit is fine...if he's telling the truth he'll eventually be taken out by the wolves.

I like my roland vote though..

[Phoebus]

Do you really think a bad werewolf would jump into the bloody spotlight like this to try to help the TOWN out?

Sigh....

Given your lover's reaction...yes.

unvote: milkman

[Mr. Flay]

They're-Posting! This-Means-A Vote Count

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rolandofthewhite - 3 (NanookTheWolf, BabyJesus, Save the Dragons)

Phoebus - 2 (PeaceBringer, milkman)
BabyJesus - 2 (rolandofthewhite, PookyTheMagicalBear)
milkman - 1 (Mastermind of Sin)

Not voting (7): Coron, Bamboomancer, mikehart, d_rouge, draygn_mage, Dranko20, Phoebus

With 15 alive, it will take 8 of you to cause a lynch.

Mod, if Dranko were to investigate Pooky, and Pooky was also vigkilled, would Dranko get a result?

Investigations are independent of the survival of the target, yes.

[rolandofthewhite]

WIFOM = wine in front of me?

[mikehart]

yes, WIFOM means Wine In Front Of Me. given dragyn mages post im inclined to believe the pair. even if it is a gambit its a hell of one. besides given pokky's assurance they will both be dead tomorrow if they aren't we could always lynch them. could someone please explain the cases against milkman or roland. im too lazy to go back and look. plus my fiance is here so im getting off the comp.

[draygn_mage]

1. What is Wine In Front Of Me???

2. My post was thinking more along the lines of "Another Mafia game i won't live to see the end of."

3. @Phoebus- my reaction? Would you not call us dead men? If the wolves don't kill us tonight, you'll kill us tomorrow (wasting another lynch).

4. The way I see it, there are 15 players left, 4 of whom are probably wolves, leaving 11 townies. we have no clear suspects at this point so going by the odds we will mis-lynch today and be down to 10. tonight, the wolves kill someone besides me, and tomorrow we are down to 9. seeing that Pooky and I are alive tomorrow, you lynch one of us and the other bites the dust leaving you with 7. That night the wolves kill again and you wake up with the wonderful news that it is 6 townies vs. 4 wolves and pray you don't mis-lynch again, or that's game.

Any faults in my logic?

[Phoebus]

I had no idea that he was a werewolf

That's what I mean.

[Save The Dragons]

Wine in front of me: From the movie(?) the Princess bride where I think Person A poisoned one of the wine glasses. Person B takes Person A's glass, thinking he's so sly because he believe Person A posioned his glass. But in reality, Person A posioned his own glass, knowing that Person B would fall for the trick. Person B dies.

Or something like that, I've never seen the movie. Basically, it's when someone does something to make us think that something is true (I.E., Pooky's a good werewolf) when it's not. The most simple form of WIFOM is something like: "I'm acting to scummy to be scum" when they really are scum.

[d_rouge]

There's a wiki page about WIFOM, for those who are interested. (I don't know how to link that)

What feels wrong about Pooky was his sudden decision to out his lover. I mean, there was no pressure on Pooky, he didn't risk being lynched and the mere fact that the town wasn't enthusiastic about his claim doesn't seem a worthy reason.
I don't think we should lynch him, since the wolves will probably prove him right or wrong in the most direct way.

[NanookTheWolf]

Wine In Front Of Me

If Pooky/Dragon_Mage manage to survive the night, then I highly suggest a lynch on Pooky. If the alliance isn't known by the other lover, then it isn't known by the town, which in turn is bad for the town.