Mafia 108 - Mafia With The Quickness - over!

[Kmd4390]

Why FoS when you don't have a vote out?

Since we see to be past the RVS stage, casting a vote is serious and needs reasons and stuff.

So far KMD, I'm only suspicious of you. That's not enough reason for a vote.

Why do you need strong reasons to cast one vote?

[Maemuki]

Leading the town isn't a tell one way or the other. It's a playstyle (or maybe personality trait, but meh).

Maybe it is. I'll keep an eye on this though.

Unvote, Vote Netlava

Oh hai reasonless vote! Why?

[Netopalis]

Meh, I was questioned after elaborating. It usually comes up early in games, and I wanted to dispense with as much of the discussion over it as possible with a longer initial post.

I agree that reasoning is needed for a vote. Unreasoned votes are anti-town. Posting reasoning gives information to the town which allows for better evaluation.

[Kmd4390]

Netlava has been around, but commented on basically nothing. All he's given is his opinions on you (Mae) and his reason for voting you mirrored my reason for suspecting you earlier. When I said you were town, he unvoted. Now he's going back to suspecting you, but with no reasons or vote.

Neto has pretty much explained himself. I don't expect to get much more out of him. I'm still suspicious of him, but there are better directions to turn my attention right now.

[Ellibereth]

6 pages in 3 hours?
Reading now, but at a glance I disagree with Neto's above post very much.
And what's the vote count about right now?

[Kmd4390]

And what's the vote count about right now?

No one is anywhere near a lynch. I think Neto has 3 votes? Mae has maybe 2. Netlava has 2 I think. Everyone else has 0 or 1.

[Zachrulez]

I agree that reasoning is needed for a vote. Unreasoned votes are anti-town. Posting reasoning gives information to the town which allows for better evaluation.

Disagree with this.

Sometimes voting without a reason can be effective at getting a reaction. This is not to say that the vote doesn't need to be explained later though.

[Netopalis]

Good reasons. What are your thoughts on SaintKerrigan?

[Netopalis]

Zach: While that's true, I think that the value of reactions to unreasoned votes is vastly overrated.

[Kmd4390]

Neto, still leaning town on Saint.

[Netopalis]

Interesting. I see many parallels with Netlava's play.

SaintKerrigan has made 8 posts. Of these 8 posts, 5 are completely contentless. 2 others simply copy what other people has said. The only original post is as follows:

Haylen, I have to disagree with you on this one. RQS, in my mind, is used to determine the responses of people to the questions asked of them. I've used it myself as town, so it isn't always scum-driven.

In other news,

Unvote: Haylen. Vote: Netlava.

Something about his post just rubbed me the wrong way...just kidding. My beef with Net is that he voted Maemuki for a very vague reason and for apologizing (obviously a nulltell). Feels opportunistic.

To me, this is a rather weak post. Yes, Netlava is scummy, but the reasons for voting him are wishy-washy at best.

[Annachie]

I agree that reasoning is needed for a vote. Unreasoned votes are anti-town. Posting reasoning gives information to the town which allows for better evaluation.

Disagree with this.

Sometimes voting without a reason can be effective at getting a reaction. This is not to say that the vote doesn't need to be explained later though.

Seeking a reaction is a reason.

Voting without reason, and voting without giving a reason aren't exactly the same thing.

[Ellibereth]

Skimmed through fast once.
Like Mae and Kmd.
Don't like Neto.

Vote: Neto

[Maemuki]

Voting without reason, and voting without giving a reason aren't exactly the same thing.

Good point.

SaintKerrigan has made 8 posts.

Dear Neto,

the game started on 18:00 (my time, GMT). It's 22:10 now.
Okaaaaay. This makes complete sense. Especially because some people didn't post yet!

Oh and RVS's over, vote goes boom.

Unvote

[Netopalis]

Why, Ellibereth? You need to elaborate more than that...

[Netopalis]

Mae: Not saying that SK should have made more posts, I'm saying that the posts that he/she has made are essentially contentless while attempting to look progressive.

[Ellibereth]

Mae: Not saying that SK should have made more posts, I'm saying that the posts that he/she has made are essentially contentless while attempting to look progressive.

Yeah. You too.

[Netopalis]

Really? I don't think so. I've responded adequately to the questions that I was asked and have provided new suspicions.

[camn]

Hello, everyone.

I thought it was a 5pm start.. so I am ALREADY behind.. but I will catch up on the bickering later on, and let you know what is what.
FOR now, since the RVS is over (?) I will refrain from voting KMD.. but I do like to make my opinions known.. so

RANDOM FOS: KMD

also.. I was listening to Cole Porter this morning. I know that sounds uninteresting, but it's true. I was only wearing my underwear, if that makes it any better.

[Ellibereth]

Neto:
ISO 0: RV
ISO 1: Theoy crap
ISO 2: More theory crap
ISO 3: More theory crap
ISO 4: More theory crap
ISO 5: More theory crap
ISO 6: More theory crap
ISO 7: Still theory
ISO 8: You don't want Bogre lynch
ISO 9: Not content
ISO 10: Gives "light reads" without your favorite reasons. Followed by theory crap.
ISO 11: Anwsers quesion.
ISO 12: Says Net's post is useless.
ISO 13: See 11.
ISO 14: Explainging why you posted all the theory crap
ISO 15: Irrelevant
ISO 16: More theory comments...
ISO 17: Still talking about voting theory
ISO 18: Asks others for read.
ISO 19: Theory
ISO 20: Content. Kerri Net comparison
ISO 21: Not Content
ISO 22: Reexplains 20

Most of your posts aren't content. And no, all the theory crap is not content.

[Incognito]

Vote Count #3 of Day 1

Bogre (1) <-~ Gayle
Maemuki (1) <-~ Netopalis
Netopalis (3) <-~ Haylen, Zachrulez, Ellibereth
Netlava (2) <-~ SaintKerrigan, Kmd4390
Zachrulez (1) <-~ Bogre
Kmd4390 (1) <-~ Glork

Not voting (4) <-~ Annachie, camn, Netlava, Maemuki

With 13 alive, 7 votes will do it.

Saturday, January 9th at 2 P.M. EST

[Netopalis]

It is when people ask me about theory crap.

Also, "Don't like Neto" is not a justification for a vote - in fact, your latest post is the only one with any content either.

[Ellibereth]

It is when people ask me about theory crap.

Also, "Don't like Neto" is not a justification for a vote - in fact, your latest post is the only one with any content either.

"Don't like Neto" is more than enough justification for a note.
You're not even denying most of your posts were outright pointless.

[Netopalis]

No, I denied it. I said that theory discussion is relevant and content when people ask me about theory as KMD, Glork and Kerrigan did. I also have said several times that I have provided content. I feel that you are perhaps feeling a bit vicious towards me due to our last game together, so I am not rising to take the bait.

[Haylen]

Hello, everyone.

I thought it was a 5pm start.. so I am ALREADY behind.. but I will catch up on the bickering later on, and let you know what is what.
FOR now, since the RVS is over (?) I will refrain from voting KMD.. but I do like to make my opinions known.. so

RANDOM FOS: KMD

also.. I was listening to Cole Porter this morning. I know that sounds uninteresting, but it's true. I was only wearing my underwear, if that makes it any better.

I'm completely naked right now...