Okay, About MIC:
He starts the game with couple of funny pictures. When it turned out, he's an alt (probably joke one as well) of Cruciare, I passed it off, as something completely normal for him.
The problem with his early play is somewhere else though. First of all his first votes are either random via dice-rolling (not a good thing) and voting without explanations (bad thing). Then, we must consider who he voted, and when (with ignoring random-Hoopla vote).
The first vote is for Monkey. Ok, either good intuition, or early bus. Seems fine tho- Hey, wait a minute...
Moai Interceptor Cannons wrote:I change my mind.
Unvote, Vote: SaintKerrigan
. Also, what's all this Hoopla support about?
Ok, so at first he joins the scum wagon, and then jumps off it. Reason?
The case on Monkey is being epicly overinflated IMO.
Haha, 'town points' - that's a good one Charter. Serial, your reason especially is a bit pathetic for someone of your apparent calibre: bemusement = town, concern = scum? What?
Kerrigan was always the better vote than Monkey in my eyes. It's just that Monkey had a bigger wagon at the time, but his reaction was inconclusive. Also, Charter, we're only on page four. Calm down a little.
First looks says 'okay, seems good'. But there was something not right in here, and after a little backtrack, I know what.
In other news, MonkeyMan, Cathart and Kerrigan (maybe Hoopla too) are scum.
Unvote, Vote: MonkeyMan576.
Wagon go!
Ok, So Monkey is scum, or you were on his wagon to see his reactions, which are 'inconclusive'? Also, does inconclusive really mean, someone you pegged as a scum so early is enough to back off your vote to someone with little to no heat at all, or should I say, from scum to town? Also, look at the bolted statement of his post about Monkey. So the case on MM is overinflated. That's the only case on Monkey ever made at that point. So, Monkey was scum... For what, if not that 'overinflated case'?
Ok, we have an answer for that in his ISO 17 (too big post to quote all of it). At least for me, inconclusive means null. And something scummy + null = something scummy. And so, I still don't understand, why did you change your vote from wagoned scum suspect to not wagoned scum suspect, especially if no one else followed you with this point. Looking at MM's and Kerrigan's alignment (assuming we both agree, he's obvtown), the only conclusion I can make of it is - 'protect your scum buddy'.
It even seems logical from my point of view. Kyle was for MM lynch, while you was defending him. Scum wagoned + 2 of his buddies with different opinions for maximum variety to not get connected.
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ISO 19 is pretty important post, so let's look closely at it:
Article 1: Defense of Monkey. Bad enough, seeing MM's alignment.
Article 2:
If I recall correctly one of the people who reviewed this setup absolutely hates cops.
Still, I don't think Monkey's scum
(yes read this sentence again if you want)
I read it again, and again, and still can't believe I didn't point out it at the time, or even later, after the massclaim, when no one else claimed cop. You obviously mean Vi, as he was the reviewer of this game, and he was in game with us both, when he said he hates the cops. So you have a clear reason to suspect, there's no cop in this game. And yet, you still thought this claim was true... Again, seeing MM's final alignment, this looks really bad.
Article 3: I really hate this constant rambling about page 4 (he uses it far too much in his previous posts). Apart from that, nothing really town or scum for random observer.
Article 4: Again not much to point out here. All point here are debatable, and we don't have that much time to debate all over something really minor now.
Article 5: Two scum noted as 'town
~ish
' (not burning the bridge for possible bus on Kyle in the future?) and 'leaning town' (on player who played outrageous, and made a [IMO] claim hard to believe). Yeah, you know my point about it.
Article 6: Town and unconvincing. His reasonings seems genuine, but as he's proposing Reck, I have this feeling, he tried to establish him as a Mayor to make a point 'he's unconvincing, so let's not vote someone, who he think is scum'. Point and the statement doesn't make any sense? Yeah, unless you'll see, who Reck tried to lynch really hard - Kyle.
Article 7: Still trying to convince people, Monkey is not scum.
Article 8: I laughed. Kudos for you
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Later we have some backing off the townish statement on Kyle, while answering nhammen, yet stating he doesn't understand the hate on him (ISO 20), then again he seems to go into 'oh what the hell, bussing is not a bad idea, by giving minuses on both Kyle and Monkey (ISO 21).
And then Hoopla came to play, and MIC had a new distraction source from Monkey (also, I saw it in the avatar in my other game, so I assume it's a meme of some kind, but I still don't get the origin of it in ISO 23). He tried to convince everyone to join the wagon, making some additional jokes in the meantime.
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As I said before, I almost got fooled with his 'genuinely looking' reaction after Soc's hammer, but I guess in this case, since he knew MM will flip Scum, he had to try hard to look really sure with his own scum-choices to have some form of defense for trying to kill MM wagon.
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He missed entire D2 due to Christmas. Pretty normal.
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Kyle slipped, MIC voted. Not a scumtell, since I did the same. He managed to kill his main lynch supporter (Charter) but attracting Danny to kill him via his twilight D3 comment (it might have been done accidentally though)
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Turned out pretty wall of textish. so Here you have tl;dr version of his scumtells:
- Saying that Monkey is scum, following the wagon, then jumping off it, and finally trying to derail it HARD. REALLY
HARD
.
- Add to this some inconsistencies with his later explanations why he dropped MM case.
- He had reasons to not believe MM's claim, yet he opted to ignore it, and continue 'MM is not scum' mantra.
- Trying hard to wagon town member (another distraction from Monkey)
Pretty much everything comes concludes in point 1, but I think it's good enough.
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