@VP Baltar, your answer wasn't useful because I could already tell from your previous posts that you were willing to make a judgment call . All I was looking for was what you gave when you said:
Albert B. Rampage plays a game that makes people think that he's scum. He does it when he's scum or town. He lies about his views when he thinks there's a temporary gain to be had from it, he throws suspicions around for no good reasons other than to get reactions, he does whatever he thinks will get a rise out of other players in order to get reads on them, he's perfectly willing to jerk people around and avoid answering questions to see how they'll squirm under pressure and how they'll try to apply it. His interactions with you earlier were nothing that I wouldn't expect to see from him regardless of alignment and if you haven't played with him then your reaction isn't surprising at all.VP Baltar wrote:... My playing experience with ABR is limited, but from my memory I don't recall him being so personally reactive in various games I have read him in.
Outlandish? Sure. Antagonistic? Definitely. Flustered into pushing his RVS vote as serious after a flippant call for his lynch... not so much.
You say that there's no reason for experienced town to have acted as Albert B. Rampage did. If that's true then there should really be no reason for scum to react that way either; clearly an experienced player would know better. It's not true though, a perfectly good reason for town (or scum) to act that way would be to draw reactions out of the other players and that's exactly what I would expect from Albert B. Rampage.
@charlatan, I don't know what your motives were which is why I asked. An answer of:
Would have been all I wanted there. It's reasonable and I assume that you'd already gotten the reaction from me when you gave your "let me turn your question around on you" answer that you gave. Clearly I could make guesses about what you were up to but saying that I had already answered for you when I hadn't and being coy doesn't help us evaluate your play nearly as much as a straightforward answer.charlatan wrote:I was mostly curious to see if someone who wasn't really contributing otherwise would jump on the opportunity to attack erratic play that amounts to a nulltell, and whether they would do so in a thoughtful way or whether they would just be like "WTF lunch? Scum!!"
@PorkchopExpress, although I'm not worried about VP Baltar's posts up till you question doing anything to out masons I don't particularly think that Albert B. Rampage is hiding behind the existence of masons, no. I think that he is correct that connections aren't the main thing that we should be looking for to find scum in this game simply because he's right to be concerned about not outing masons even if that wasn't an instance of it being likely to happen.
@Albert B. Rampage, so far as I know WoW does their Trolls wrong. I'd pick Tauren. That's all based on the RTS games rather than the MMORPG which I have no direct experience with.
@Debonair Danny DiPietro, I do know that you're willing to hang back and let someone else drive the game; I saw that first hand in the game we IC'd together (I never got around to posting after that game ended by the way; nice work on finishing it up after I got night killed.) The trouble with that approach here is that it doesn't give the rest of us the chance to get a read on you along the way. In the newbie game I wasn't so worried about it as I had more pressing issues with simply making sure that the others knew how to play the game; they were going to look scummier than you by default whether you were talking or not just because they would make mistakes they didn't even know were mistakes. That's not going to come up here; we need your input not just for the sake of the input but also so that we've got a way to judge your play and the connections later on. Waiting till you've got something great to latch on isn't acceptable here.
@Scien, if you stop trying to put pressure on people for unimpressive reasons at the start of games then I'll probably stop expecting that you're going to do it after a while. Seriously though, the L-x on Vi's votes? That's worse than the issue you were having with jokes in the random voting stage in Mini 880.
I think I've just put some things together that won't be useful to talk about but if I'm right then I think it's possible that SerialClergyman noticed the same thing just a bit ago; remind me to check with him about it if we're both about in a couple days. Yes this is mysterious, I just need to remember it so I'm putting this in here because someone's sure to ask about it and remind me what I have in mind later on when it could be important.
It's tempting to change my vote now to someone other than Ojanen that I want to hear more from but (PorkchopExpress and Debonair Danny DiPietro both spring to mind) but I think that's probably less productive than joining a charlatan wagon. This either of Albert B. Rampage or VP Baltar are his top choices is overly convenient and I think that they're both red herrings right now.
-Zorblag R`Lyeh