Open 189~Trouble@Warren State Mental Hosp (Over)

[VP Baltar]

Somehow I don't think claiming a false guilty or bussing your scum partner in a two scum setup is a viable strategy to actually win the game.

Also I already said I wasnt going to read the game until I was able to and when I look at my watched topics, I see Open 189 and then I look across at who was the last to post. I will probably see something like NIGHT 1 but not in a big huge title then N1 at the end. In fact I didnt even notice the D2 until you pointed it out to me.

So did you look at it at all during that time period, particularly since you were posting elsewhere on the site?

[Vi]

Vi, now that your newbie game is over, how would you compare Howard's play there to his play here?

At first, I was fairly impressed with HR's scumplay. Later in the game, not so much.

I think there's a fairly clear difference between this game and that one, though. In the Newbie game, he was an IC amid some players who were at typical intelligent newb level. Here, not so much - Howie has said a number of times that he is intimidated by this player list, and he has acted fairly accordingly.

I don't think a comparison would work.

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I have nothing to

add

, except that this is either the most ballsy scum wagon or the most retarded town wagon I've seen in a while.

I don't think it counts as "adding" if it has been your second line of defense all game.

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tajo, do you actually have an opinion on anything, or are you just saying things in hopes of nobody noticing that you're trying to skate by?

[populartajo]

tajo, do you actually have an opinion on anything, or are you just saying things in hopes of nobody noticing that you're trying to skate by?

i think my opinion regarding poro is already itt.

im exactly still rereading the moment where the wagon changed gears to cat.

i also asked some a question: why did you prefer cat over howard?

[Vi]

Clearing people as town doesn't help scum win games.

So you are saying this game is not in your watched topics at all or that it was just near the bottom because no one was posting here and you didn't see it?

yeah, this.

but, think about it, poro just put himself in the frontline instead of staying alive for one more day if he were scum. Its just too early for scum to bother about confirmed townies, dont you think?

your opinion of poro is "i don't believe it but i believe it"

I jumped onto the Cat wagon for pressure following BloodCovenent initially, but then stayed on for the reasons hito gave - particularly noting his terribly unsatisfying jumps on the Howie and Xdaamno wagons.

[populartajo]

My opinion of poro is the same of day 1. He is prob town. Forgetting a night action is more likely a lazy tell rather than a scumtell.

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[Porochaz]

Somehow I don't think claiming a false guilty or bussing your scum partner in a two scum setup is a viable strategy to actually win the game.

Also I already said I wasnt going to read the game until I was able to and when I look at my watched topics, I see Open 189 and then I look across at who was the last to post. I will probably see something like NIGHT 1 but not in a big huge title then N1 at the end. In fact I didnt even notice the D2 until you pointed it out to me.

So did you look at it at all during that time period, particularly since you were posting elsewhere on the site?

If I had, there would have been an investigation.

If I had thought for a second that there was no way of getting through the day as scum then claiming a false guilty would make sense bussing my scum partner probably wouldnt work in a 2 scum setup, your right, its a big risk but I think is possible depending on your player base, its something I would be interested to try at some point...

[VP Baltar]

Vote: HowardRoark

It'd be nice if other people in this game decided to show up today.

[tubby216]

*************mod notes****************

prodded Izzy and scotty

[Sotty7]

Sorry guys, I had some serious issue with the boards yesterday as I was trying to post and in the end just gave up.

Vote: HR

HR is next on my list of suspects for really not doing anything. I don't see any real effort to scum hunt from him and being intimidated by this player list as Vi put it, only really works as scum.

Still not buying the Xd hate. BC really needs to explain his vote. Tajo why aren't you voting HR?

Tubby did you prod Cakye and HR as well?

[HowardRoark]

I keep my wiki pretty up-to-date; meta lovers rejoice.

@BloodCovenent: Who do you see as Xdaamno's possible scum buddy?
@Porochaz: Who is your prime suspect today?
@Sotty7: *sniped* Why do you have a non-scum read on Xdaamno?
@Vi: How strong is your VP Baltar town read?
@DizzyIzzyB13: If VP Baltar were cleared, what would be your thoughts on Vi?
@crywolf20084: What do you think of BloodCovenent?
@Xdaamno: What do you think of Sotty7?
@VP Baltar: Who do you think would be my scum buddy?
@populartajo: If you were a dayvig, who would you shoot right now?

[crywolf20084]

Hi.

I don't know if i buy prozac's story, but in the same breath i really don't put this past him as in I totally see him forgetting about the game and not investigating.


Brain isn't working. Can't think of anything else to say ._.

[HowardRoark]

I keep my wiki pretty up-to-date; meta lovers rejoice.

@BloodCovenent: Who do you see as Xdaamno's possible scum buddy?
@Porochaz: Who is your prime suspect today?
@Sotty7: *sniped* Why do you have a non-scum read on Xdaamno?
@Vi: How strong is your VP Baltar town read?
@DizzyIzzyB13: If VP Baltar were cleared, what would be your thoughts on Vi?
@crywolf20084: What do you think of BloodCovenent?
@Xdaamno: What do you think of Sotty7?
@VP Baltar: Who do you think would be my scum buddy?
@populartajo: If you were a dayvig, who would you shoot right now?


It's taken me several tries to submit this.

[Vi]

@Vi: How strong is your VP Baltar town read?

Very.

Sotty7: Who is next on your scumlist after HowardRoark?
I agree with the BloodCovenent pressure though.

[Xdaamno]

HR's questions are a rather blatant attempt to make himself look town and misdirect the town. What do I think of Sotty7? Answering this question would only start another pointless point of debate that can be latched onto by me, you and sotty7 to no avail. Let's keep the HR wagon momentum, please.

[VP Baltar]

@VP Baltar: Who do you think would be my scum buddy?

Not sure what the point of this question is, but my first guess would be one of the persons pushing the Cat wagon yesterday. Most likely BC from that group.

We also have a significant number of people sort of skating around the sidelines of the game, which worries me. Here you can read Izzy, Cayke, tajo and possibly Sotty (though she hasn't been in the game a long time).

[crywolf20084]

@crywolf20084: What do you think of BloodCovenent?

BC doesn't rub me in any wrong way at this time. But I do believe he warrents an iso read by me.

I've played with him in a (really fail on my part) newbie game. I was scum, he was town iirc, but i don t honeslty remember how he acted, if its anything similar or anything different.

[HowardRoark]

@Vi: How much is that based on meta?

@Xdaamno: Please tell me how my questions are "a rather blatant attempt to . . . {snip} . . . misdirect the town"? (I get the "look town" piece.)

@VP Baltar: The point is connections and thought processes.

@crywolf20084: I look forward to the thoughts after the read.

[Sotty7]

@Sotty7: *sniped* Why do you have a non-scum read on Xdaamno?

I see him as actively trying to scum hunt. He had a few moments of putting his foot in his mouth but other than that I haven't had an issue with what he has done. I will also say meta read.

Why do you have a scum read on him?

Sotty7: Who is next on your scumlist after HowardRoark?

Izzy
BC

I also forgot to comment on chaz. I can see were VP is coming from in that scum wouldn't want to clear townies but I am having a hard time believing that this is a scum gambit.

[Xdaamno]

@Xdaamno: Please tell me how my questions are "a rather blatant attempt to . . . {snip} . . . misdirect the town"? (I get the "look town" piece.)

Because they're near-useless, especially compared to what else we could be doing - lynching you. I'm not claiming this is particularly scummy of you, I'm just trying to make it more obvious to everyone else.

[Vi]

@Vi: How much is that based on meta?

None of it.
What is your intent in asking these questions?

[DizzyIzzyB13]

@DizzyIzzyB13: If VP Baltar were cleared, what would be your thoughts on Vi?

Hmm. I'd probably still err towards scum, although she'd shift closer to neutral on the scumminess scale. I'm not sure it'll happen.

vote: VP Beltar.

[Vi]

@DizzyIzzyB13: If VP Baltar were cleared, what would be your thoughts on Vi?

Hmm. I'd probably still err towards scum, although she'd shift closer to neutral on the scumminess scale. I'm not sure it'll happen.

vote: VP Beltar.

Odd, I would expect someone who voted VP Baltar D1 over the HowardRoark case to at least mildly protest the leading wagon yesterday and today.

Unvote: Xdaamno
Vote: DizzyIzzyB13

(L-5)

[Vi]

ITT,

[VP Baltar]

essentially.


Basically at this point if Vi is scum then it's game over because at this rate I would never be interested in her lynch.

Other than that, my only other semblance of a town read is daamno. The rest of you should really put a little effort in.

[Sotty7]

It's hard to generate content when everyone else is looking to just lurk away. I could be interested in a Izzy lynch, her latching on of VP is uber poor and she isn't even trying to look else where. The HR wagon is where it is at though. Vi are you not interested in HR at all today?

HR needs to get in here and do something more than ask seemingly random questions.

Tajo should get in here and explain why he isn't voting HR yet despite being seemingly obsessed with the lack of a HR lynch yesterday.

Cayke needs to get in here and do... Something. Anything would be good.