Alright, my other game finished, and I had to spend a couple of days kicking puppies, but now I'm ready to focus on this game.
Although it is amusing to think that 4-6 of you might be scum all trying to trick each other, I don't think we're in multiscum.
Right now, the NUMBER of kills strongly indicates a mere two killing parties. (Yes, I realize there was a vig, but there were no 'sliced open' kills).
Curiously, no one seems to believe that 'brutally murdered' is anything other than a SK because of the NATURE of the flavor.
Alright, well if we're playing the 'flavor nature' game, answer me this: Does 'shot' sound pretty standard for a mafia kill? I'm going to assume everyone answered yes.
What about 'blood loss'? Not so much, I bet.
Granted, 'blood loss' is how everyone dies, in fact, that's what dying is! But being said in such a way sure doesn't sound like two guidos coming to your front door to shoot you, or a vicious serial killer stabbing you in the face.
My point? We know that one 'shot' came from MonkeyMan, because we know he targetted SensFan (going to assume no one thinks RayFrost lied), and he possessed no other ability to target a player because he was a Goon.
After his death, we had another shot. So we know atleast two people can generate the 'shot' kill flavor. Could it be..... the other goon(s)? But last night, the kill came from someone else. Someone who doesn't have an obviously-gun-based killing method. A power role, perhaps?
I can't be the only one in this game who's seen each different mafia role/player have a different kill flavor, especially when there's trackers, so the town can better figure out who did what on what nights.
***I don't see any way that we can say that a multiscum setup has been proven/supported by the different kill flavor, because we don't know how the kill flavors are assigned.***
Besides, the alternative is that there is a second group that has just been (a) not killing, or (b) having their kill attempts masked by what must be an amazing series of circumstances. Both of these are pretty far-fetched, especially as the alternatives to something as simple as "somebody else did the killing last night".
So, I'm sticking with a single scum theory, plus an SK. And for the record, I believe that the choice of victims from the brutally murdering individual reveals him/her to be a Serial Killer more than the nature of the flavor.
Alright, now for some actual scum hunting.
Riceballtail wrote:
VOTE:Tar
New kill flavor? I'm convinced of a second scum faction now. My guess is Tar is highly interested in self-protection for being the last Jupiter. This may be way out on a limb, but I refuse to dismiss the idea just because Tar may very well know there's a second team and can fake it.
Why would scumTar confirm the game setup when doubting its existence would be both reasonable and to his advatange? I think you and your buddies are determined to make 'multiscum' the talk of the town.
And the Tar vote is terrible. You and your scumteam know you can't kill Tar at night (I've already explained why I think Tar is almost certainly town), so you're trying to lynch him for whatever reason you can fabricate (No chance that a townie Doctor/Roleblocker would be 'highly interested' in protecting himself, eh?).
If we lynch RBT and get scum, it's all but certain that Raivann is also mafia. The scum can't night kill townTar, so they're likely looking for a way to lynch him. If Raivann was town the scum would just barn Tar's case against Raivann, and then hold Tar accountable for the mislynch. But if they're attacking Tar instead. it indicates that they know he's right about Raivann, and don't want him gaining credibility (while alive).
Conversely, if we lynch Raivann and get scum, Riceballtail has a healthy chance of flipping scum, too. Who can guess what Riceballtail's stated opinion of Raivann and the Raivann wagon is? Nothing. Not a thing either way, except that Tar is scummy for focusing on Raivann. That's out of place for someone who has been willing to lynch just about everyone else.
Of the two, I'm preferring the Raivann lynch. Either way, I want to hear what they have to say about RBT at L-1 before I vote.
Serial Killer thoughts
Some deeper review of xReckonerx's situation reveals that I was wrong about him yesterday. He's not the SK. I speculated that a claimed bulletproof townie was, in fact, likely to be a bulletproof SK. I further speculated that the 'townie' result muh had gotten on his investigation of Reckoner was the result of another ability common to Serial Killers. However, that is clearly not the case in this game.
Seraphim wrote:
Glork wrote:
Mod: Please define "failed result." Does that mean the investigation will show him as being Innocent, or will the Investigator be told that is attempt failed to obtain an alignment altogether?
A failed result is the same as a no result.
Muh gave an 'innocent' report on Reckoner. There's no way a Godfather's investigation ability gives a 'no result' while a Serial Killer's investigation ability gives an 'innocent' result. Reckoner is town.
I think someone else mentioned it today, but Tar is also not the Serial Killer unless something immensely funky is going on, due to what looks like a blocked kill on Night 3 at the same time someone was brutally murdered.
We can assume Slicey is not the Serial Killer.
Trumpet of Doom stands a realistic chance of being the Serial Killer. Empking asked if Dev was vote worthy, and Vaya was ToD's vote yesterday.
