Mafia 108 - Mafia With The Quickness - over!

Ellibereth · Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:35 am

I know, but what do you think it's motivation was?

Maemuki · Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:46 am

Ok, who was the top suspect for D4? Maybe a desesperation tactic to lynch Haylen instead of his scumbuddy? That's my view on it anyway.

Well, you see...Zach claimed watcher right after he quoted me and said "I'm not as good as reading her as I think". I do not know what to make out of it. >.<'

Ellibereth · Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:41 am

Mae, you read all of D4 right?

Incognito · Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:22 pm

Vote Count #2 of Day 5

Not voting (3) <-~ SaintKerrigan, Ellibereth, Maemuki

With 3 alive, 2 votes will do it.

Note:

an asterisk by a player's name indicates said player would be lynched if Day were to end right this moment without a lynch majority.

Deadline wrote:
Wednesday, January 27th at 6 P.M. EST

SaintKerrigan · Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:56 pm

Maemuki wrote:
SaintKerrigan wrote:
Maemuki wrote:Nope, not enough Haylen for you methinks.
I know.

Maemuki wrote:I did have a town read on Zach. The only thing that I have where I think that he's scum is the post above.
Why did you think he was scum at that point if you had a town read on him the whole game?
You bussing him, duh.

And if you haven't played with Haylen for at least 4 times and you don't constantly talk to her, you're not going to understand her.

Wait. Me "bussing" my "partner" made you think Zach's scummy? Sorry, but I don't follow.

Also, are you implying that I was the top suspect for Day 4? It seemed to me that there was no top suspect on Day 4 except for Zach.

SaintKerrigan · Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:36 am

*pokes*

Maemuki · Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:36 am

Hey guys! I'll reread this game tomorrow. I'm not in the mood to do it, Science test and so.

Ellibereth wrote:Mae, you read all of D4 right?

Maybe. Maybe not. Most likely the latter.

If there was no top suspect - why the hell did Zach fake-claim? Was he under pressure during early D2?

Ellibereth · Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:24 am

Mae, read Yos's plan. The only people he could have been trying to save would have been you or Kerri...
Which leaves me exactly where I started...meh.

Maemuki · Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:36 am

Ellibereth wrote:Mae, read Yos's plan. The only people he could have been trying to save would have been you or Kerri...
Which leaves me exactly where I started...meh.

For me, it makes SK scummier, but since you both bussed two different scum, I'm a bit uncertain on my reads.

Ellibereth · Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:51 am

Maemuki wrote:
Ellibereth wrote:Mae, read Yos's plan. The only people he could have been trying to save would have been you or Kerri...
Which leaves me exactly where I started...meh.
For me, it makes SK scummier, but since you both bussed two different scum, I'm a bit uncertain on my reads.

Errr....what?
I attacked both Neto and Zach at some point so I dunno what you're talking about.
Also there would have been no motivation for that claim if I were scum so yeah....read the game please.

SaintKerrigan · Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:45 am

The question I've been wondering is why Zach needed to save

any

of us. I don't think there were people solidly on board with Yosarian2's plan at the time that Zach claimed, or at the least it wasn't vocally stated. Why go out of your way to get yourself lynched when you could simply let your partner take the heat?

SaintKerrigan · Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:45 am

The question I've been wondering is why Zach needed to save

any

of us. I don't think there were people solidly on board with Yosarian2's plan at the time that Zach claimed, or at the least it wasn't vocally stated. Why go out of your way to get yourself lynched when you could simply let your partner take the heat?

SaintKerrigan · Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:49 am

Death to the white screen of death!!!

Ellibereth · Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:51 am

Yos put out his plan after Hayle claimed vig IIRC. If the plan went through Zach - Mae and Zach - Kerri scumteams would both be screwed over.
Zach prob thought that if he waited the plan would slowly gain support, I dunno. But it's pretty clear to me it was to save one of your guys.

SaintKerrigan · Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:03 am

Ellibereth wrote:Yos put out his plan after Hayle claimed vig IIRC. If the plan went through Zach - Mae and Zach - Kerri scumteams would both be screwed over.
Zach prob thought that if he waited the plan would slowly gain support, I dunno. But it's pretty clear to me it was to save one of your guys.

But that's just it. Why would Zach make such a desperate move when there wasn't any clear evidence that people were going to adapt Yosarian2's plan? I'm starting to think it's more likely that Zach simply gambled on trying to mislynch Haylen and lost.

Mae, how many times have you played with Zach?

SaintKerrigan · Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:03 am

EBWOP: "Adapt" should be "adopt."

Maemuki · Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:15 am

SK wrote:Mae, how many times have you played with Zach?

Around 0? I've been on a game that was modded by him, though.

SaintKerrigan · Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:21 am

Maemuki wrote:
SK wrote:Mae, how many times have you played with Zach?
Around 0? I've been on a game that was modded by him, though.

Perhaps you can explain this, then.

Maemuki wrote:...hey, Zach, what do you think about Hayl? Townie or scum?

Well, you did say that you could read Hayl well.

This comment sticks out to me. You're asking for Zach's opinion, and seem willing to trust it. However, having played 0 games with Zach before, I don't see any reason why you should do this,

unless you're scumpartners with him

.

Maemuki · Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:22 am

This comment sticks out to me. You're asking for Zach's opinion, and seem willing to trust it. However, having played 0 games with Zach before, I don't see any reason why you should do this, unless you're scumpartners with him.

Just because I haven't

played

with him, doesn't mean that I didn't

read

his games. There was a newbie game (I don't remember which one it was), and Zach said that he could read Haylen very well. I'll try to find it, if you want it.

SaintKerrigan · Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:25 am

Do you usually read up on all the people you haven't played with before, Mae? And even if you did read up on Zach, why should that make you willing to trust his read on another player? How do you know he isn't going to lie to you (which is what he did)?

Maemuki · Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:30 am

Eeeeeeh, isn't Mafia about asking questions and seeing which answers are lies?

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY ATTACKING ME FOR ASKING FOR A READ?

By the way, it's this one.

SaintKerrigan · Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:38 am

Maemuki wrote:Eeeeeeh, isn't Mafia about asking questions and seeing which answers are lies?

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY ATTACKING ME FOR ASKING FOR A READ?

By the way, it's this one.

No, I'm not. I'm attacking the trust that you seemed to put into Zach's potential read. Why else would you pose the question to Zach specifically? I can't find a townie motivation for it.

SaintKerrigan · Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:39 am

Maemuki wrote:Eeeeeeh, isn't Mafia about asking questions and seeing which answers are lies?

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY ATTACKING ME FOR ASKING FOR A READ?

By the way, it's this one.

No, I'm not. I'm attacking the trust that you seemed to put into Zach's potential read. Why else would you pose the question to Zach specifically? I can't find a townie motivation for it.

SaintKerrigan · Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:41 am

Grr, sorry again. Mafiascum is disagreeable today.

Maemuki · Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:51 am

No, I'm not. I'm attacking the trust that you seemed to put into Zach's potential read. Why else would you pose the question to Zach specifically? I can't find a townie motivation for it.

*raises eyebrow* Zach didn't attack Haylen before, did he? Did he even give a read on her before he claimed? Isn't that weird for someone that claimed to read Hayl well? Yes it is.

Sorry for saying this - this part of your case is BS.