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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:56 am

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I think we should no lynch today. Hit wrong and we lose. At least we have a night kill to give us more info.

Argh. My instinct is telling me it's Neto but logic is telling me it's either VRK or Charter. This is NOT fair.
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:41 am

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Haylen wrote:I think we should no lynch today. Hit wrong and we lose.
At least we have a night kill to give us more info.


Argh. My instinct is telling me it's Neto but logic is telling me it's either VRK or Charter. This is NOT fair.
And your guarantee that the scum won't No Kill is.....???
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:37 am

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Vote Count #1 of Day 6


charter (1) <-~ Netopalis

Not voting (3) <-~ charter, Haylen, Vel-Rahn Koon

With 4 alive, 3 votes will do it.

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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:45 am

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Vel-Rahn Koon wrote:
Haylen wrote:I think we should no lynch today. Hit wrong and we lose.
At least we have a night kill to give us more info.


Argh. My instinct is telling me it's Neto but logic is telling me it's either VRK or Charter. This is NOT fair.
And your guarantee that the scum won't No Kill is.....???
I can't guarantee anything scum will do. But I do know that we've got another two goes before it's a draw again. And I don't want a draw. I'm gonna go meta Charter now. I don't give a flying rats ass if metaing is inappropriate in newbie games.
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:51 pm

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Ironically enough, all the players remaining are either IC or SE. I really don't think that this fits the standard definition of what is right and wrong to do in a newbie game.
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:14 pm

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Yeah, the last newbie game that this happened in, I was given the deciding vote and somehow managed to hit scum. Based on instinct. Again.
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:37 pm

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Regardless, I think that the case on Charter is pretty obvious.

SK/Me doesn't make sense, given that I was attacking SK pretty heavily out of the gate.

SK/VRK doesn't make sense, given that SK needlessly attacked VRK early, when he could have attacked Haylen

SK/Haylen works a bit, but I don't think it really fits all that well.

SK/Charter, on the other hand, fits brilliantly. The two suspected the same people, but almost never referenced each other by name, which is a method of formal distancing. It's quite clear to me, from their posts and interactions, that they were playing off of each other.
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:19 am

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Looks like this needs a bump.
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:22 am

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:cry: I really want to vote Charter cause I'm sure he's scum. But then I'm worried that VRK will be the real scum and hammer. Or that I haven't listened to my instincts as I should have done all game and voted for Net...
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:28 am

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Vote No Lynch


Solves that problem.
I want it narrowed down for tomorrow, it will make the scum seeing easier. And it's not really logical, why lynch and maybe lose with little info when we can no lynch, have a kill and have info from the kill not to mention 2 players to choose from.
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:16 am

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Everyone else are lurkers.
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:04 am

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vote no lynch

Been too busy to reread.

Neto, I really don't think your vote is good. Yesterday, you were agreeing with my points, but in the end didn't vote for Haylen. It seems kind of hypocritical. Almost like you were setting yourself up to switch to Haylen if another townie voted her.
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:59 am

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Yes, I was somewhat swayed. The problem is, there were two potential scumteams yesterday - You and SK vs. Haylen and Nacho. Now that we know that SK is scum and Nacho is town, it doesn't make a lot of sense for anyone but you to be the scum.
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:13 am

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Mod, please probe VRK
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:56 am

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He hasn't reached 72 hours yet (I count weekends as 24 hours total). If he hasn't posted by tomorrow, I will prod him.
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:01 am

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Fine. I expect a full Vel-Rahn Koon probing to be executed tomorrow.
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:53 am

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I want to hear VRK's comments before I commit us to a no-lynch. I'm fairly sure that I know who the scum is, but I'm willing to wait a day if you all insist.
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:26 am

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There will be no probing of the VRK. I don't do probing. Unless some weird space alien abducts me and then I really have no say in the matter.

Anyway, I'm here guys. I don't get time to post on weekends and yesterday was being a typical Monday.

Haylen, 1134 makes no sense. Why do you think the scum is going to kill tonight if we No Lynch and make finding them easier? That's a ridiculous leap in logic. I agree that if we No Lynch it's good for us and that we get another go at information, but I don't think it follows that the scum are going to do us any favors and make a kill tonight.

It kills me to say it but I agree with Neto's 1137. I can't see how Haylen is scum any longer considering that Nacho died last night. Everything about my thought process is WIFOM, but Haylen's been in such hot water all game long I don't see her (as scum) killing off one of the only people who thought she was town. Like I said, it's WIFOM. And Nacho seemed to be the only person to partner her with. I can't see an SK/Haylen team TBH.

I'm willing to go with the No Lynch, but I don't think we should be surprised if we all have a weird sense of Deja Vu on Day 7. I'll wait until people have responded before throwing a vote.
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:47 am

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Haylen, 1134 makes no sense. Why do you think the scum is going to kill tonight if we No Lynch and make finding them easier?
I presume they will because that's what scum do. They kill at night. Go and look at any game on this site and you will see scum night killing, except for 5pV's and other nightless games of course.
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:51 am

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Lol, when I'm giving a role involving a kill, I always shoot. It's a bit of a compulsion. Hell, I kill as Vig on night 1. Guess im being quite presumptuous in saying that everyone does when they clearly dont seeing as the amount of free nights we've had :? Weird...

HEY! VRK! YOU'RE THE LIST MOD! Which newbie game in the history of newbie games has had the longest amount of days?
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:56 am

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Nah, killing doesn't actually help them any, as it doesn't get them any closer to their goal....
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:59 am

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Yeah it does. Lol. Their wincon says = to the amount of townies. Only way that can achieve that it by killing townies. *shrugs*
Neto wrote: Nah, killing doesn't actually help them any, as it doesn't get them any closer to their goal....
You said that almost lovingly. :?
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:07 am

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Either way, a mislynch is a loss. A kill tonight does not put scum any closer to winning, but it does make it easier for the town to lynch correctly. That's why scum hasn't been killing at night.
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:42 am

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Haylen wrote:
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Haylen, 1134 makes no sense. Why do you think the scum is going to kill tonight if we No Lynch and make finding them easier?
I presume they will because that's what scum do. They kill at night. Go and look at any game on this site and you will see scum night killing, except for 5pV's and other nightless games of course.
Yes but this presumption is 100% at odds with what we saw happen on days 3 and 4 of this game. That's why I think your train of thought is off. We've already seen twice now in this game that scum will not NK for whatever reason.

And you answered this yourself in 1144, so nvm the above. :D

/agree with Neto 1147. Since we're in MyLo, the scum don't need to kill tonight to win the game. A mislynch in MyLo will win the game for them just as well as a mislynch in LyLo will.

As for longest number of game days, I think this is either the winner or damn close to it. This is probably pushing the page count as well. I'll have to go look at the wiki.
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:24 pm

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Bumping a vote count.
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